Mon May 28, 2018 11:09 pm
dogfound wrote:AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.
oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }
Mon May 28, 2018 11:12 pm
CityBlue93 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Utter nonsense. The reason this case was blackout was because those who committed the crime were Muslims (again)
cant be serious? the BBC literally made a tv series about the muslim gang in rochdale, and it was front page news everywhere.. meanwhile earlier this year senior EDL member Leigh McMillan was jailed for sexually abusing a 10 year old girl, and most of these tommy robinson supporters probably dont even know who McMillan is because it was barely reported
The guy who prosecuted the rochdale gang said himself they nearly faced a mistrial due to media influence, and was very critical of robinson, so I'd imagine the courts were keen to give these sick defendants absolutely no reason to cry foul and suggest a mistrial/obstruction of justice etc. I'd like to think to that filming outside a court (and potentially filming victims/families of victims) came into it too.
Mon May 28, 2018 11:53 pm
dogfound wrote:CityBlue93 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Utter nonsense. The reason this case was blackout was because those who committed the crime were Muslims (again)
cant be serious? the BBC literally made a tv series about the muslim gang in rochdale, and it was front page news everywhere.. meanwhile earlier this year senior EDL member Leigh McMillan was jailed for sexually abusing a 10 year old girl, and most of these tommy robinson supporters probably dont even know who McMillan is because it was barely reported
The guy who prosecuted the rochdale gang said himself they nearly faced a mistrial due to media influence, and was very critical of robinson, so I'd imagine the courts were keen to give these sick defendants absolutely no reason to cry foul and suggest a mistrial/obstruction of justice etc. I'd like to think to that filming outside a court (and potentially filming victims/families of victims) came into it too.
why this desperation to make wrong right ?
what has leigh mcCmillan got to do with Tommy Robinson reporting a trial....or are you responsible for every friend family member and aquintance youve ever had..?
and we have all seen trials where the cameras are outside..that are reported fully..and victims family members may have been filmed unkowingly by the camera crew..all seen footage of outraged people attacking the vans carrying the accused...all heard the judge ordered the court cleared..threatened somone with arrest and contempt of court during a trial..and all seen the names of accused people appear on main stream media long before any verdict
jeez....but lets all pretend none of that has ever happened ..
Tue May 29, 2018 12:35 am
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:dogfound wrote:AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.
oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }
How was he NOT disrupting the trial?! You can’t take a group of men outside a court and expect it to have no influence on the jury
Tue May 29, 2018 12:48 am
CityBlue93 wrote:dogfound wrote:CityBlue93 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Utter nonsense. The reason this case was blackout was because those who committed the crime were Muslims (again)
cant be serious? the BBC literally made a tv series about the muslim gang in rochdale, and it was front page news everywhere.. meanwhile earlier this year senior EDL member Leigh McMillan was jailed for sexually abusing a 10 year old girl, and most of these tommy robinson supporters probably dont even know who McMillan is because it was barely reported
The guy who prosecuted the rochdale gang said himself they nearly faced a mistrial due to media influence, and was very critical of robinson, so I'd imagine the courts were keen to give these sick defendants absolutely no reason to cry foul and suggest a mistrial/obstruction of justice etc. I'd like to think to that filming outside a court (and potentially filming victims/families of victims) came into it too.
why this desperation to make wrong right ?
what has leigh mcCmillan got to do with Tommy Robinson reporting a trial....or are you responsible for every friend family member and aquintance youve ever had..?
and we have all seen trials where the cameras are outside..that are reported fully..and victims family members may have been filmed unkowingly by the camera crew..all seen footage of outraged people attacking the vans carrying the accused...all heard the judge ordered the court cleared..threatened somone with arrest and contempt of court during a trial..and all seen the names of accused people appear on main stream media long before any verdict
jeez....but lets all pretend none of that has ever happened ..
what the f**k are you on about i was referring to the "the only reason this is being censored is because the defendants are muslims" line... whereas recent trials and events show this is bollocks.
Tue May 29, 2018 5:56 am
AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.
Tue May 29, 2018 6:56 am
Tue May 29, 2018 6:57 am
wez1927 wrote:Seems to be a lot of paedo lovers on here ,attacking Robinson but not the groomers ,very strange
Tue May 29, 2018 6:59 am
dogfound wrote:smakerzthebluebird wrote:dogfound wrote:unbelievable that some people are happy that these grooming gang trials get hidden away from the public.. because they have taken a dislike to a man they dont know..
Any case this high profile gets a compete media ban it’s totally normal
Rape cases often the same as with the girl involved in the ched Evans case
Don’t believe everything you read
The jury have to be completely locked away int his sort of case and this has always been the way
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any case like this.....and its ME believing everything i read ?????
whatever comic you got that rediculous idea from stop your subscription
btw the girl in the Ched Evans case was...the supossed victim NOT the accused...at least get that right
Tue May 29, 2018 7:02 am
paulh_85 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Seems to be a lot of paedo lovers on here ,attacking Robinson but not the groomers ,very strange
what an odd thing to say
Tue May 29, 2018 7:04 am
Tue May 29, 2018 7:07 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Tue May 29, 2018 7:08 am
wez1927 wrote:Seems to be a lot of paedo lovers on here ,attacking Robinson but not the groomers ,very strange
Tue May 29, 2018 7:17 am
wez1927 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Seems to be a lot of paedo lovers on here ,attacking Robinson but not the groomers ,very strange
what an odd thing to say
Not odd just facts ,that some people on here just like the police and labour polititions keep turning a blind eye to the disgusting problem in Islam which teaches sex with kids is ok
Tue May 29, 2018 7:24 am
maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:[but for some reason no-one should be told about it or try to stop it.
that’s exactly why they’re kept anonymous until the trials over so knobheads like robinson and his followers don’t try and take it into their own hands
Is that the real reason for the blackout?
I agree with the OP that TR has used this for his own agenda. He knew what he was doing, he knew the rules and broke them deliberately. Something tells me he is not regretting it either.
My question is why do they have these blackouts and are they limited to high profile cases?
That’s a question I would like answered Ian.
I keep hoping it’s to protect the kids but there are other cases that have been reported in full.
Tue May 29, 2018 7:29 am
paulh_85 wrote:wez1927 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Seems to be a lot of paedo lovers on here ,attacking Robinson but not the groomers ,very strange
what an odd thing to say
Not odd just facts ,that some people on here just like the police and labour polititions keep turning a blind eye to the disgusting problem in Islam which teaches sex with kids is ok
you are a full blown idiot
Tue May 29, 2018 7:32 am
Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
Tue May 29, 2018 7:37 am
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
Exactly annis ,they were guilty and showed no remorse Tommy was up there showing Britain what is going on ,why no reporters for these grooming gangs ? Double standards coz of there religious beliefs, if it was a level playing field then fair enough but it is not and that's what stinks
Tue May 29, 2018 7:37 am
Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
Tue May 29, 2018 7:47 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
Annis from start to finish a court should not be subject to influencing.
I agree with you that these scumbags should be named and shamed. However I have to think about that as these scumbags most likely have families who most likely knew nothing about the scumbags activities. Let's be honest here but how many of us judge people for being a family member of a scumbag?
Our emotions can get the better of us sometimes.
Tue May 29, 2018 7:53 am
Forever Blue wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
Annis from start to finish a court should not be subject to influencing.
I agree with you that these scumbags should be named and shamed. However I have to think about that as these scumbags most likely have families who most likely knew nothing about the scumbags activities. Let's be honest here but how many of us judge people for being a family member of a scumbag?
Our emotions can get the better of us sometimes.
Ian, they name other people before they are even found guilty and these have families as well, so there for why should they not be named, why does the law just change because they are Muslim or any other religion? ?
But its even worse regarding this subject as these were already found Guilty and were going in the courts to be sentenced, The Vile Scum should be named.
What they all did in my opinion is the lowest any human being could do.
What about these poor victims?
Personally I would lock everyone of them up and throw away the key for good as they ruined their victims lives for ever.
The Authorities are well out of order for not allowing it all to be reported and then arresting Robinson for reporting these Vile Scum.
Tue May 29, 2018 8:16 am
Forever Blue wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
Annis from start to finish a court should not be subject to influencing.
I agree with you that these scumbags should be named and shamed. However I have to think about that as these scumbags most likely have families who most likely knew nothing about the scumbags activities. Let's be honest here but how many of us judge people for being a family member of a scumbag?
Our emotions can get the better of us sometimes.
Ian, they name other people before they are even found guilty and these have families as well, so there for why should they not be named, why does the law just change because they are Muslim or any other religion? ?
But its even worse regarding this subject as these were already found Guilty and were going in the courts to be sentenced, The Vile Scum should be named.
What they all did in my opinion is the lowest any human being could do.
What about these poor victims?
Personally I would lock everyone of them up and throw away the key for good as they ruined their victims lives for ever.
The Authorities are well out of order for not allowing it all to be reported and then arresting Robinson for reporting these Vile Scum.
Tue May 29, 2018 8:53 am
Tue May 29, 2018 8:58 am
Jes wrote:If Tommy is still in prison by the 1st game of the season I have a feeling that every football stadium in the UK will be chanting Tommy's name.
OH TOMMY TOMMY, TOMMY TOMMY TOMMY TOMMY ROBINSON.
This would be a huge own goal for the establishment as TV coverage of Premiership football is shown around the world using different media outlets.
Tommy is likely to have far more coverage than they ever imagined.
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Tue May 29, 2018 9:00 am
Tue May 29, 2018 9:00 am
wez1927 wrote:Jes wrote:If Tommy is still in prison by the 1st game of the season I have a feeling that every football stadium in the UK will be chanting Tommy's name.
OH TOMMY TOMMY, TOMMY TOMMY TOMMY TOMMY ROBINSON.
This would be a huge own goal for the establishment as TV coverage of Premiership football is shown around the world using different media outlets.
Tommy is likely to have far more coverage than they ever imagined.
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It's been an own goal already its brought together people from different back grounds fro right wing to left wing people
Tue May 29, 2018 9:01 am
Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
Tue May 29, 2018 9:14 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:As disgusting as it seems those people should get a fair trial.There must be no outside influence of any kind which might sway a jury one way or another.A defense can move for a miss-trial if they think the jury has been misled from any outside influence hence the restrictions on reporting.Witch hunts and trials by mobs were outlawed a long time ago.
And righteous indignation wins no arguments about this outside of this forum.
Martin, They were already found Guilty when Tommy Robinson turned up, they were there for sentencing by the Judge.
Why should those Vile human beings have nothing reported? ? ?
I understand where your'e coming from but the restrictions were in place for the whole of the trial which includes the sentencing.The time for reporting is when the whole thing is done and dusted but then our friend Tommy would have missed his chance for glory.The thing is you gotta strip this back and take the emotion out of it.Robinson broke the law,twice and has paid.It would have been the same if it was my old granny and not Robinson.
Tue May 29, 2018 9:18 am
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:dogfound wrote:AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.
oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }
How was he NOT disrupting the trial?! You can’t take a group of men outside a court and expect it to have no influence on the jury
Tue May 29, 2018 9:19 am
Jock wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:dogfound wrote:AHERNE wrote:In response to the 'Free Tommy Robinson his only crime telling the truth' picture doing the rounds.
That is actually quite far from the truth. Here's a more accurate list:
Assaulting an off duty police officer with actual bodily harm and intention to resist arrest (2004)
Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour - this including throwing missiles, damage to property and anti-Welsh racist chants (2010)
Mortgage fraud - using a fake identity to attempt to defraud a bank of £160,000 (2012)
Money laundering (2012)
Possession of drugs with intent to supply (2012)
Travelling to the USA using someone else's passport - literally being an illegal immigrant (2013)
Breaching the terms of his prison license (2014)
Football banning order for inciting racial hatred (2016)
Contempt of court for attempting to film defendants (2017)
Pretty amazing when we know what he thinks about people who don't respect the laws of this country!
And now:
Contempt of court, again. This is the second time he has put a serious sexual abuse case under threat of mistrial, meaning the defendants could walk free, as a result of his attempts to disrupt it.
Have a think about who, and what, some of you are defending.
oh and...i read this baloney about mistrials because someone was attempting to report on the trial earlier...
how was he trying to disrupt the trial..?
genuinely shocked that even one person in the whole of the UK would actually BELIEVE that one..{ i did know that you would be on here saying it...but its an agenda thing with you not what you actually believe }
How was he NOT disrupting the trial?! You can’t take a group of men outside a court and expect it to have no influence on the jury
Every one of these Muslim Beast trials sees loads of the beasts family and friends outside and inside the court, blaming the victims and shouting supporting the child rapists, does that influence the trial and are you happy these Islamist scum are allowed to do that unhindered, on a British street?