I hope this is not true

Why do people frequent these type of places let alone on a sunday night?

if they had to go out, then couldn't they just have gone to their local for a quiet shandy or even better be at home with their families.

Women and large bottles of vodka

2 of the worst combos for any red blooded male

Why do people frequent these type of places let alone on a sunday night?

if they had to go out, then couldn't they just have gone to their local for a quiet shandy or even better be at home with their families.

Women and large bottles of vodka

2 of the worst combos for any red blooded male

Neither have done me any favours over the years

Hopefully not true, but those 2 are the last I would expect to be doing that right now. 1 has been injured all season and youd think would be concentrating on his football full stop and the other has been fu**ing shite for months and looks unfit enough as it is. At least its not a key player in our team I guess. But hope this is fake news.

"fake news"? .. . two contributors to this thread said they were there and backed up the social media post. I'd say it's unlikely that it's made up.

Yeah and 2 people on this forum said we were on the verge of signing Joe Ledley so i'll take everything said on this forum with a pinch of salt.

Oh c'mon - that's entirely different! The Ledley signing was pure speculation - the incident outside the bar was actually seen, first hand experience .. can you not see the obvious difference?

Just remembered Jazz was out in soda as well.

And if you want to know who knocked Kadeem out it was Steve Anning He was the bouncer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_8wUoLjO0

Just remembered Jazz was out in soda as well.

And if you want to know who knocked Kadeem out it was Steve Anning He was the bouncer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_8wUoLjO0

I take it from watching that YouTube video that this "Steve Anning" was the one that got the early cheap shot in as the other boxer looked to make the customary touch of gloves, right?

Just remembered Jazz was out in soda as well.

And if you want to know who knocked Kadeem out it was Steve Anning He was the bouncer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_8wUoLjO0

I take it from watching that YouTube video that this "Steve Anning" was the one that got the early cheap shot in as the other boxer looked to make the customary touch of gloves, right?

I think he was trying to get his southpaw jab in place and just got caught to be honest

They just touched gloves 10 seconds prior to the punch with the ref present.

actually ref didn't bother. What a joke all round. Shocking

:shock:

No it's not true, end of thread

This would be all over the welsh news especially the echo who love bad press with Cardiff city. Mendez Langs family had come down from the midlands his mother etc for the weekend was chatting to them on level 4 so shocked if this true

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

I saw pilks driving a taxi up Tudor road at about 4am.

I saw Leo Fortune West fighting in chippy lane last night, he was outnumbered and got battered. All over childish Facebook

Why do people frequent these type of places let alone on a sunday night?

if they had to go out, then couldn't they just have gone to their local for a quiet shandy or even better be at home with their families.

That's where all the prime fanny goes

:shock: actually ref didn't bother. What a joke all round. Shocking

The ref wouldn't have said f**k all he's a nutter, not the kind of guy you'd want to f**k with!

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

You clearly haven't been in a nightclub on mill lane for a while then.

Why do people frequent these type of places let alone on a sunday night?

if they had to go out, then couldn't they just have gone to their local for a quiet shandy or even better be at home with their families.

That's where all the prime fanny goes

Nubbsy

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

The golden rule is minimum force.

If any of this is true I would expect CCFC to press charges via the police for this.

Anybody heard anything more about this ?

Surely it would be over news by now, anybody in the know?

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

It is indeed rubbish!

A doorman is entitled to match the force of an aggressor?

Simple really, just walk away

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

It is indeed rubbish!

A doorman is entitled to match the force of an aggressor?

Its not total rubbish they're are lots of variables. Doormen have basically the same rights as any normal person on the street. They are aloud to use reasonable force depending on proportionality, justification and necessity. IF someone punched or swung a punch at a doorman and he floored them then charges would prob not stand.

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

It is indeed rubbish!

A doorman is entitled to match the force of an aggressor?

Its not total rubbish they're are lots of variables. Doormen have basically the same rights as any normal person on the street. They are aloud to use reasonable force depending on proportionality, justification and necessity. IF someone punched or swung a punch at a doorman and he floored them then charges would prob not stand.

They'll claim self defence and the court would usually side with the club/pub.

Incidents like this normally end up filmed on phones, nothing out there yet so until its out in the open or the club raise it then not really interested in it. Sad thing is Kadeem looked pretty sharp down the left on Sunday.

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

It is indeed rubbish!

A doorman is entitled to match the force of an aggressor?

Its not total rubbish they're are lots of variables. Doormen have basically the same rights as any normal person on the street. They are aloud to use reasonable force depending on proportionality, justification and necessity. IF someone punched or swung a punch at a doorman and he floored them then charges would prob not stand.

It is rubbish. If someone attempts to use a baseball bat on a doorman, are you telling me the doorman could reply like-for-like ... or if a someone tried kicking the doorman in the head ... the doorman could reply in the same fashion?

Doormen have to try and restrain and not be seen to be using unecessary force; they certainly don't have carte blanche. A patron doesn't have the right to head-butt a doorman, for example, but they may well attempt to (..and often do!) the doorman does NOT have the right to reply back in such a way.

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

It is indeed rubbish!

A doorman is entitled to match the force of an aggressor?

Its not total rubbish they're are lots of variables. Doormen have basically the same rights as any normal person on the street. They are aloud to use reasonable force depending on proportionality, justification and necessity. IF someone punched or swung a punch at a doorman and he floored them then charges would prob not stand.

It is rubbish. If someone attempts to use a baseball bat on a doorman, are you telling me the doorman could reply like-for-like ... or if a someone tried kicking the doorman in the head ... the doorman could reply in the same fashion?

Doormen have to try and restrain and not be seen to be using unecessary force; they certainly don't have carte blanche. A patron doesn't have the right to head-butt a doorman, for example, but they may well attempt to (..and often do!) the doorman does NOT have the right to reply back in such a way.

If you throw a punch at a bouncer they have the right to hit back. case closed.

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

It is indeed rubbish!

A doorman is entitled to match the force of an aggressor?

Its not total rubbish they're are lots of variables. Doormen have basically the same rights as any normal person on the street. They are aloud to use reasonable force depending on proportionality, justification and necessity. IF someone punched or swung a punch at a doorman and he floored them then charges would prob not stand.

It is rubbish. If someone attempts to use a baseball bat on a doorman, are you telling me the doorman could reply like-for-like ... or if a someone tried kicking the doorman in the head ... the doorman could reply in the same fashion?

Doormen have to try and restrain and not be seen to be using unecessary force; they certainly don't have carte blanche. A patron doesn't have the right to head-butt a doorman, for example, but they may well attempt to (..and often do!) the doorman does NOT have the right to reply back in such a way.

If you throw a punch at a bouncer they have the right to hit back. case closed.

But in a court of law it can become a grey area - the bouncer might be prosecuted if he attempted to throw multiple punches at someone who had become overpowered.

The all point of bouncers being fully licensed is to stop people being knocked out or hit. Bouncers can longer use that kind of force, could be reprocessions for the bouncer and the club if true.

A doorman is allowed to use reasonable force if the situation calls for it.
I'm not sure what happened here but if someone threw a punch/punches at a doorman then the doorman is entitled to match the force of the aggressor.

Rubbish

It is indeed rubbish!

A doorman is entitled to match the force of an aggressor?

Its not total rubbish they're are lots of variables. Doormen have basically the same rights as any normal person on the street. They are aloud to use reasonable force depending on proportionality, justification and necessity. IF someone punched or swung a punch at a doorman and he floored them then charges would prob not stand.

It is rubbish. If someone attempts to use a baseball bat on a doorman, are you telling me the doorman could reply like-for-like ... or if a someone tried kicking the doorman in the head ... the doorman could reply in the same fashion?

Doormen have to try and restrain and not be seen to be using unecessary force; they certainly don't have carte blanche. A patron doesn't have the right to head-butt a doorman, for example, but they may well attempt to (..and often do!) the doorman does NOT have the right to reply back in such a way.

If you throw a punch at a bouncer they have the right to hit back. case closed.

But in a court of law it can become a grey area - the bouncer might be prosecuted if he attempted to throw multiple punches at someone who had become overpowered.

not really like for like then mate.


point here is that a decent bouncer wouldnt wade in fists first if they didnt have to, and only resort to that if they had little matter.

someone the size of harris is unlikely to need sparking out