“ Kenneth Zohore “

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

He’s scored in three games all season, I bow to your great knowledge but he simply is not good enough for a team trying to get out of the Championship at the top end. Disregard the Man City game as you make valid points, he’s been crap for weeks against very ordinary teams in our league.

Spot on

Dando, you are the clueless one mate. I bet you've never played football? You obviously don't understand the concept of it?

I agree and disagree.

Zohore had mission impossible today, he can't go closing down the centre backs everytime they had the the way they were playing it about he or anyone would be knackered after 20 minutes.

My issue was more the his ability on the ball, number of times he got into good positions and just didn't do anything with it and lost the ball. Looks shot of confidence.

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

You are an absolute clown. What standard of football did you play to? What coaching badges do you have? Do you actually understand the concept of football and how you win games, especially against higher opposition?

Mansfield would have done better than us today. Poor tactics. You defend from the front. You put people under pressure and cause problems from the front. He couldn't be arsed, he hasn't been bothered since the end of the year. I never agree with Annis, but he has widely published that Zohore has an attitude problem and it is becoming plain to see.

I have a 10m swimming badge. Does that count for anything ?

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

You are an absolute clown. What standard of football did you play to? What coaching badges do you have? Do you actually understand the concept of football and how you win games, especially against higher opposition?

Mansfield would have done better than us today. Poor tactics. You defend from the front. You put people under pressure and cause problems from the front. He couldn't be arsed, he hasn't been bothered since the end of the year. I never agree with Annis, but he has widely published that Zohore has an attitude problem and it is becoming plain to see.

I am just being a realist on this.

I think the one reason we fail to push through gears and levels is because of our passion and love for players who work themselves into the ground and we lack players with genuine quality and can actually play with the ball at their feet.

I just feel like strikers like Ken, Jones in the past got bad criticism because they don't chase down 24/7, target men never get the credit they deserve here because they don't appease the fans with work rate.

Not denying Ken has been poor but to receive criticism from today I feel like it's not really justified.

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

He’s scored in three games all season, I bow to your great knowledge but he simply is not good enough for a team trying to get out of the Championship at the top end. Disregard the Man City game as you make valid points, he’s been crap for weeks against very ordinary teams in our league.

Spot on

Dando, you are the clueless one mate. I bet you've never played football? You obviously don't understand the concept of it?

I have played football and understand it, you been here for 5 minutes.

Hardly clueless, just being realistic and honest.

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

You are an absolute clown. What standard of football did you play to? What coaching badges do you have? Do you actually understand the concept of football and how you win games, especially against higher opposition?

Mansfield would have done better than us today. Poor tactics. You defend from the front. You put people under pressure and cause problems from the front. He couldn't be arsed, he hasn't been bothered since the end of the year. I never agree with Annis, but he has widely published that Zohore has an attitude problem and it is becoming plain to see.

So if you are so well clues up, expail this. How can you defend from the front when you’ve only got one man pressing the players. It requires the whole team to press which wasn’t happening. It happened on numerous occasions that Zohore would pressure on CB, then Patterson would pressure the other CB leaving Fernandinho free. And then they set up an attack. But you can look at it alternatively, Zohore chases one CB they pass it to the keeper. Who has to go and chase the keeper? Yes you got it Zohore. Meanwhile the rest of the team are still on their Man not providing any support to the cause of defending from the front.
Before you ask no I haven’t got any badges and I don’t intend on getting them. But I saw what happened today and that was my view. You seem to completely forget the opposition we were playing. They’ve beaten teams like United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. Yet we lose 2-0 and our striker is now a lazy useless waste of space because he couldn’t close the best team down on his own.

Really disappointed with him today.

If he worked hard but nothing happened, then fair enough. But I don’t think he did.

Paterson was screaming at him to close down defenders on many occasions, and I can see why.

Paterson, on the other hand, chased everything. My MOTM

Ned, I couldn't agree more on Paterson as MotM and I thought Etheridge warrants a special mention as well

Not so sure that Zohore was as bad as might appear but he does seem to have gone backwards (some would say to his old self) since the injury and maybe the start of the season and I have to say that I thought Pilkington did well when he came on as replacement. He nearly scored with his first touch!

I've not had a chance to watch the game again since getting home but I'll be interested to see a few contentious moments from the game...and the first goal, as that pesky City mascot (Bartley Bluebird) stood right in front of us as the free kick was taken, so we missed it! Thanks, Bartley!

The reason why we won't amount to much is fans expect far too much of players.

he did seem to tire quickly - you can't expect a lone striker to chase the back four when they have the ball the whole game. i don't recall people lambasting kenwyne jones who probably put in less effort during his entire stay, than zohore did against man city.

he got the better of some top class defenders once or twice, too. it's tiring playing a team like man city who are on another planet to most teams in the premier league, let alone the championship. at times, the whole team didnt close down city, so it was either management instructions or the whole team tired.

i must admit though, i think he has something in reserve. as i said though, compare his level of effort to a ricky lambert or kenwyne jones before you say he hasn't tried.

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This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

He’s scored in three games all season, I bow to your great knowledge but he simply is not good enough for a team trying to get out of the Championship at the top end. Disregard the Man City game as you make valid points, he’s been crap for weeks against very ordinary teams in our league.

Spot on

Dando, you are the clueless one mate. I bet you've never played football? You obviously don't understand the concept of it?

I have played football and understand it, you been here for 5 minutes.

Hardly clueless, just being realistic and honest.

Followed the board for years, been a season ticket holder for over 20. Played for about the same. Just joined because of some the comments. The comments about the amount of fans turning up as infuriated me as much as this.

The atmosphere today compared to the atmosphere when we played them in the premier was like chalk and cheese. We were going downhill then, but at least the atmosphere was hostile and uncomfortable back then. We are now a family club who would rather provide our away visitors with the most friendly welcome possible as opposed to a hostile and uncomfortable environment. It's sad.

He was poor again today, with a real lack of effort in doing the basics of closing down from the front. Time and time again he just watched their goalkeeper and defenders, rather than putting any real pressure on them. His lack of movement overall is becoming a real concern - either he’s still carrying an injury or we are seeing him return to the levels we saw before his ‘purple patch’.

Whatever, we desperately need to get someone in this week and this version of KZ is a concern.

Just sped through the game and it was a deliberate tactic to go man for man but it always led to a spare at the back . He really was chasing ghosts

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

He’s scored in three games all season, I bow to your great knowledge but he simply is not good enough for a team trying to get out of the Championship at the top end. Disregard the Man City game as you make valid points, he’s been crap for weeks against very ordinary teams in our league.

Spot on

Dando, you are the clueless one mate. I bet you've never played football? You obviously don't understand the concept of it?

I have played football and understand it, you been here for 5 minutes.

Hardly clueless, just being realistic and honest.

Followed the board for years, been a season ticket holder for over 20. Played for about the same. Just joined because of some the comments. The comments about the amount of fans turning up as infuriated me as much as this.

The atmosphere today compared to the atmosphere when we played them in the premier was like chalk and cheese. We were going downhill then, but at least the atmosphere was hostile and uncomfortable back then. We are now a family club who would rather provide our away visitors with the most friendly welcome possible as opposed to a hostile and uncomfortable environment. It's sad.

Agreed the atmosphere was shit, we had to walk around thousands of dozy people waiting for Man City bus????

Then in the ground kids and women walked back and fore getting more more burgers and coke, it was like a day out shopping in the St David’s Centre !!!

No wonder the crowds are dropping it’s boring.

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

You are an absolute clown. What standard of football did you play to? What coaching badges do you have? Do you actually understand the concept of football and how you win games, especially against higher opposition?

Mansfield would have done better than us today. Poor tactics. You defend from the front. You put people under pressure and cause problems from the front. He couldn't be arsed, he hasn't been bothered since the end of the year. I never agree with Annis, but he has widely published that Zohore has an attitude problem and it is becoming plain to see.

I am just being a realist on this.

I think the one reason we fail to push through gears and levels is because of our passion and love for players who work themselves into the ground and we lack players with genuine quality and can actually play with the ball at their feet.

I just feel like strikers like Ken, Jones in the past got bad criticism because they don't chase down 24/7, target men never get the credit they deserve here because they don't appease the fans with work rate.

Not denying Ken has been poor but to receive criticism from today I feel like it's not really justified.

I'm completely baffled the fact that Zahore is getting so much criticism! He chased, closed down as a lone striker! What more could he do ??

I'm even more buddies how Patterson is getting so much praise. He tried to Man mark Fernandinho and basically only managed to mark his shadow, whilst leaving massive gaps in the midfield, he also missed lots of opportunities to cut out passes through the middle.

Zohore was a disgrace today! Lazy b*stard who did everything half assed! He needs a rocket to his ass! He looks no fitter than Tonkin yet Tonkin doesn’t get a look in

He was poor again today, with a real lack of effort in doing the basics of closing down from the front. Time and time again he just watched their goalkeeper and defenders, rather than putting any real pressure on them. His lack of movement overall is becoming a real concern - either he’s still carrying an injury or we are seeing him return to the levels we saw before his ‘purple patch’.

Whatever, we desperately need to get someone in this week and this version of KZ is a concern.

Agreed he has been really poor since injury, he had one half chance and didn’t hit the target, I understand it’s hard against one of the best teams in the World but he’s been poor ever since the injury.

Zohore and Mendez looked amazing at the start of the season, but since injury they have looked a shadow of themselves and that’s what we are missing!!!

Get Grabban as quick as possible !!!

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

You are an absolute clown. What standard of football did you play to? What coaching badges do you have? Do you actually understand the concept of football and how you win games, especially against higher opposition?

Mansfield would have done better than us today. Poor tactics. You defend from the front. You put people under pressure and cause problems from the front. He couldn't be arsed, he hasn't been bothered since the end of the year. I never agree with Annis, but he has widely published that Zohore has an attitude problem and it is becoming plain to see.

Spot on!

It’s funny how people see things differently. While I don’t deny Patterson had a good game, Man City were passing it between their two CBS and GK. And only Ken there to put pressure on. When Patterson did press he’d leave Fernandinho open which then created an attack. The movement of Man City was just on another planet. If we had a full team press fair enough, but with Just Ken doing the pressing he’s going to get run around everywhere. And by the end you could jus see he was demoralised. I thought Manga was superb today, couldn’t believe the people around me saying how bad he was playing.

Absolutely right.

I thought Zohore worked hard, ran the channels and held the ball up well, and had very little support and had a few good attempts at goal. Thought he tried his best tbh.

Only us Cardiff fans could moan because our players weren’t as good as Manchester City.
You could see the pure difference in quality with every pass. We passed to where players were, they passed to where they would be.
Zohore was playing upfront by himself against the premier league champions elect.

Only us Cardiff fans could moan because our players weren’t as good as Manchester City.
You could see the pure difference in quality with every pass. We passed to where players were, they passed to where they would be.
Zohore was playing upfront by himself against the premier league champions elect.

Well said, we played a team that are running away with the premier league and they were all on form today. They had Sergio Aguero to bring on from the bench and we had Liam Feeney and Pilkington. We have championship players, Man City have world class players and to only lose 2-0 in the end is an acceptable result. Their passing was unbelievable, De Bruyne's passing was ridiculous fair play

The reason why we won't amount to much is fans expect far too much of players.

Somewhere along the line i expect our center forward who ever he is to score goals and assist in scoring goals, Ken is not doing this at the moment and does not look look doing it anytime soon.
Its not today that i judge him on . I judged him on his games before today, particularly against an ordinary Mansfield team he was absolutely hopeless.
To me Ken thinks he is marking the center half he does not do any runs off the center back he seems to stick to them like glue, until he tries to run off his markers his days as our no 1 striker are coming to an end.

This thread shows how much some of you know about football, brain dead. I honestly can't believe you made this thread Ned and made it a sticky, embarrassing.

Warnock clearly has give him specific instructions to not chase down 24/7 and keep his energy for when we have the ball to make runs down the channels.

Warnock mentioned in a press conference at the start of the year that Zohore runs himself into the ground too much sometimes which means towards the end of games he doesn't have the energy at the end to take chances.

Playing the best team in Britain and one of the best in the world and we are all criticising him.. it was a tough game today especially against a team like Man City playing as a lone striker, I thought when he did have the ball he was excellent and was very good in his decision making and passing.. I'm all for 110% effort but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a realistic view on it.

This having an opinion then there's talking absolute nonsense.

You are an absolute clown. What standard of football did you play to? What coaching badges do you have? Do you actually understand the concept of football and how you win games, especially against higher opposition?

Mansfield would have done better than us today. Poor tactics. You defend from the front. You put people under pressure and cause problems from the front. He couldn't be arsed, he hasn't been bothered since the end of the year. I never agree with Annis, but he has widely published that Zohore has an attitude problem and it is becoming plain to see.

I am just being a realist on this.

I think the one reason we fail to push through gears and levels is because of our passion and love for players who work themselves into the ground and we lack players with genuine quality and can actually play with the ball at their feet.

I just feel like strikers like Ken, Jones in the past got bad criticism because they don't chase down 24/7, target men never get the credit they deserve here because they don't appease the fans with work rate.

Not denying Ken has been poor but to receive criticism from today I feel like it's not really justified.

I'm completely baffled the fact that Zahore is getting so much criticism! He chased, closed down as a lone striker! What more could he do ??

I'm even more buddies how Patterson is getting so much praise. He tried to Man mark Fernandinho and basically only managed to mark his shadow, whilst leaving massive gaps in the midfield, he also missed lots of opportunities to cut out passes through the middle.

The mentality some of our supporters have is the reason why I don't think we can never consistently amount too much because it's a constant that we need players like Ralls that run themselves into the ground and have to be putting 110%, I ain't saying I am for that but it seems we just never have no room to accept technical players with actual ability to play football like what Fulham have.

You have to be constantly running around like a headless chicken to get approval, supporters need to sometimes look at the qualities of some players and accept lets say Tomlin isn't going to be like Damour or Ralls. Hence why Whitingham was getting slagged off towards the end of his time here, it don't make sense.

Whittingham was never one who worked tirelessly here in terms of repeatedly chasing players and charging them down, it was never his game and I don't see why later on down the line people got on his back about it.

But eh on this forum every fan needs a scapegoat and it's Zohore at the moment.

Zohore and Mendez-Laing were dreadful again today - Manga however looked right at home in this elevated company

I said months ago Kenneth Zohore, wrong attitude, does not give 100% and is not good enough , I got slated by some on here.

Honestly thing he needs to play with someone, he has skill, control and can pass/cross well. he gets shit service and no support up top so maybe its also his attitude as I also think he gives up after 40 mins

He had a great game against Sheffield Wednesday and had a thankless task today. He is getting form back slowly, we'll need to see how he goes against Leeds.

Really disappointed with him today.

If he worked hard but nothing happened, then fair enough. But I don’t think he did.

Paterson was screaming at him to close down defenders on many occasions, and I can see why.

Paterson, on the other hand, chased everything. My MOTM

The old Zohore is back.

Zohore and Mendez-Laing were dreadful again today - Manga however looked right at home in this elevated company

Oh shit have a look at the second goal then tell me manga was premier class oops

Really disappointed with him today.

If he worked hard but nothing happened, then fair enough. But I don’t think he did.

Paterson was screaming at him to close down defenders on many occasions, and I can see why.

Paterson, on the other hand, chased everything. My MOTM

let me say zohore is a lazy b*stard who thinks hes better than everyone