NEW PARKING RESTRITIONS AROUND CCFC

cheers frank just read your post, i always park my car opposite the school, you just saved me a ticket! Any suggestions where i can park now? As i dont really know the area that well.

If the book says your blue badge is not valid then it's as simple as that. The law made the law it should stand. If one is allowed to get away with it they had just as well scap it. But I,m sorry as to how it may affect you but we as residents have our rights to.

Sorry Frank you are way off there mate. The Disability Discrimination Act makes it unlawful for anyone to treat a disabled person less favourably than an able bodied person. There are various parts to the act but part 3 makes it a civil offence to deny provision of goods and services to the disabled on the grounds of their disablity.

It doesn't matter if the 'service' (in this case the issuing of a residential parking permit) is for monitary value or not. The discrimination can be direct (a complete ban on disabled parking) or indirect (the issuing of limited parking permits which exclude disabled drivers who do-not live in the area). IMO what we are talking about is the latter indirect discrimination.

The law is quite clear and has been tested many times, any clause in a contract or direction by an institution which by it nature results in discrimination of any kind is deemed as void.

It would be my opinion that the instructions on page 9 do exactly that and are therefore invalid.

TBH any resident who tries to deny a disabled driver parking rights for their own selfish agenda, is 'frankly' not a very nice person.

If the book says your blue badge is not valid then it's as simple as that. The law made the law it should stand. If one is allowed to get away with it they had just as well scap it. But I,m sorry as to how it may affect you but we as residents have our rights to.

Sorry Frank you are way off there mate. The Disability Discrimination Act makes it unlawful for anyone to treat a disabled person less favourably than an able bodied person. There are various parts to the act but part 3 makes it a civil offence to deny provision of goods and services to the disabled on the grounds of their disablity.

It doesn't matter if the 'service' (in this case the issuing of a residential parking permit) is for monitary value or not. The discrimination can be direct (a complete ban on disabled parking) or indirect (the issuing of limited parking permits which exclude disabled drivers who do-not live in the area). IMO what we are talking about is the latter indirect discrimination.

The law is quite clear and has been tested many times, any clause in a contract or direction by an institution which by it nature results in discrimination of any kind is deemed as void.

It would be my opinion that the instructions on page 9 do exactly that and are therefore invalid.

TBH any resident who tries to deny a disabled driver parking rights for their own selfish agenda, is 'frankly' not a very nice person.

Look it like this then. If they do park opposite my drive on double yellows, and they do, It means I can't get my car in or out. Also I think a lot of you have got the wrong end of the stick on this one. I have only been telling people about the new parking laws this area but if the do obstruct my drive or make it difficult for people to turn there cars around in the culdesac the residents will do all they can to get the car removed and that means you as well.

yer if a car blocks your drive way and your unable to get out then the police can be called, if the police can't find the owner then they can have the car moved ! as you need to get out

thats a fact i know

and i can see where frank is coming from , id hate to live near by and have cars all over the shop, it would do my nut in, id proberly be the same

I once questioned a traffic warden about parking my car and displaying a blue badge in a permit only public road. He responded by saying even though the handbooks tell you your blue badge is not valid, they are wary of booking cars that display blue badges because one day the disabled driver will challenge its legality in the courts.

Secretly they accept that you can't get a more blatant example of disability discrimination. This is because a traffic warden/council would be treating a disabled driver less favourably by penalising them for parking on the same road as an able bodied resident who has been issued with a permit.

I’m not saying that you won’t ]get booked because of this, but if you did I would certainly challenge the ticket on the grounds of disability discrimination and point out that the handbook rule does-not override the law of the land.

But they are not being discrimated against in the exmaple you gave, and even if you want to consider it discrimination it is not on the grounds of their disability so it couldnt be challenged in court on those grounds.

If the book says your blue badge is not valid then it's as simple as that. The law made the law it should stand. If one is allowed to get away with it they had just as well scap it. But I,m sorry as to how it may affect you but we as residents have our rights to.

Sorry Frank you are way off there mate. The Disability Discrimination Act makes it unlawful for anyone to treat a disabled person less favourably than an able bodied person. There are various parts to the act but part 3 makes it a civil offence to deny provision of goods and services to the disabled on the grounds of their disablity.

It doesn't matter if the 'service' (in this case the issuing of a residential parking permit) is for monitary value or not. The discrimination can be direct (a complete ban on disabled parking) or indirect (the issuing of limited parking permits which exclude disabled drivers who do-not live in the area). IMO what we are talking about is the latter indirect discrimination.

The law is quite clear and has been tested many times, any clause in a contract or direction by an institution which by it nature results in discrimination of any kind is deemed as void.

It would be my opinion that the instructions on page 9 do exactly that and are therefore invalid.

TBH any resident who tries to deny a disabled driver parking rights for their own selfish agenda, is 'frankly' not a very nice person.

Look it like this then. If they do park opposite my drive on double yellows, and they do, It means I can't get my car in or out. Also I think a lot of you have got the wrong end of the stick on this one. I have only been telling people about the new parking laws this area but if the do obstruct my drive or make it difficult for people to turn there cars around in the culdesac the residents will do all they can to get the car removed and that means you as well.

I never said anything about 'blocking driveways' which is an offence, although blue badge holders are allowed within reason to park on double yellow lines.

I made clear and definitive reference to parking on a public road, so please don't make things up to make your argument look better.

I once questioned a traffic warden about parking my car and displaying a blue badge in a permit only public road. He responded by saying even though the handbooks tell you your blue badge is not valid, they are wary of booking cars that display blue badges because one day the disabled driver will challenge its legality in the courts.

Secretly they accept that you can't get a more blatant example of disability discrimination. This is because a traffic warden/council would be treating a disabled driver less favourably by penalising them for parking on the same road as an able bodied resident who has been issued with a permit.

I’m not saying that you won’t ]get booked because of this, but if you did I would certainly challenge the ticket on the grounds of disability discrimination and point out that the handbook rule does-not override the law of the land.

But they are not being discrimated against in the exmaple you gave, and even if you want to consider it discrimination it is not on the grounds of their disability so it couldnt be challenged in court on those grounds.

Yes they are. The council are saying a residential permit has priority over a disabled permit on that stretch of road and therefore by definition the disabled are being treated less favourably on the grounds of their disability (restricted mobility). Whilst the 'intention' was to inforce 'residential' parking restriction the council have indirectly discriminated against the disabled.

Did anyone see a traffic warden?
I didn't.
Maybe it was because it’s a Sunday. Double time and all that.

THE restrictions start from 31st of August I think

The street signs were covered over the day before with tape - the wording that said "saturday permits" - the times still there because it is everyday of the week from the end of the month

I spoke to a nice traffic warden in the city centre today.
He confirmed what I already knew.
Blue badge holders can park in the residents permit holders bay.
3 hours max.

Going back to the parking last Saturday, Tickets were issued again in Sudcoft street, one car had a ticket for the second home game in a row. DULL he must be. The cars on the grass verges in Leckwith road were untouched, BUT, I have been informed that next Sunday ( jack game ) the police will make this there priority. Only warning you lads. A few of you out there wont mind paying the fine in return for three points off the jacks.

@ Frankie

it's my first season as a season ticket holder this season and my biggest issue has been parking, to be honest I have been illegally parking on quieter roads with my fingers crossed and have been lucky so far.
Where is the best place to Park legally other than withi the grounds carpark?

If you get down early enough the back of tesco's in canton, when I say early about 2 hours B4 the game, there are a few car parks in and around canton, and theres Bessamer road but early is the key.

If you get down early enough the back of tesco's in canton, when I say early about 2 hours B4 the game, there are a few car parks in and around canton, and theres Bessamer road but early is the key.

thats where we always park .............. the area around the rear of Tesco and the Community centre . Get there early enough and never a problem to park

Cardiff has got its own bye laws.
E.g. in Cardiff you have to park so many metres off a junction.
That's a bye law. In Cwmbran there is no such law.
So you might well be right about page 9 in the blue badge book.
However I'd say check with the traffic warden as well.
There might well be a bye law in Cardiff allowing blue badge holders to park
In the permit bays,

Wrong! the parking at a junction is 10 metres or 32ft unless there is a parking bay, you must also not park opposite a junction that is the law of the land, not a byelaw, cwmbran is not exempt, also blue badge holders are NOT allowed to park in any resident permit holders spaces, anywhere in GB, no matter what the traffic warden says, if you get a traffic warden that knows the rules he will book you,

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I once questioned a traffic warden about parking my car and displaying a blue badge in a permit only public road. He responded by saying even though the handbooks tell you your blue badge is not valid, they are wary of booking cars that display blue badges because one day the disabled driver will challenge its legality in the courts.

Secretly they accept that you can't get a more blatant example of disability discrimination. This is because a traffic warden/council would be treating a disabled driver less favourably by penalising them for parking on the same road as an able bodied resident who has been issued with a permit.

I’m not saying that you won’t get booked because of this, but if you did I would certainly challenge the ticket on the grounds of disability discrimination and point out that the handbook rule does-not override the law of the land.[/quote]

On some yellow lines there are 2 vertical lines, meaning no parking for anyone including blue badge holders, a mate of mine with a blue badge got booked some time back parking there, traffic wardens following the law will book you in a permit holders space, regardless of wether there is a blue badge displayed