UPDATED: NEIL WARNOCK: "NO LUCK & REF MAJOR ERROR"

We need some luck, I said this the other day before the game. We got none, as usual. Don’t think we ever had a lucky season in all the years I’ve followed us, we are due a shed load....

People say they even themselves out try watching swans spurs tonight! Llorente offside scores! Bit later llorente through on goal 1on 1 but given offside when in fact onside doesn't help swans does it?

People say they even themselves out try watching swans spurs tonight! Llorente offside scores! Bit later llorente through on goal 1on 1 but given offside when in fact onside doesn't help swans does it?

The linesman just missed another clear offside. He's got every decision wrong, how have imbeciles like this made it to the Premiership?

People say they even themselves out try watching swans spurs tonight! Llorente offside scores! Bit later llorente through on goal 1on 1 but given offside when in fact onside doesn't help swans does it?

The linesman just missed another clear offside. He's got every decision wrong, how have imbeciles like this made it to the Premiership?

Yes so to say it evens themselves up really is a misconception as any wrong decision effects the result normally? unless already losing 6-0

The Ref situation is nothing new in fact Cardiff City had no great referees at the Cardiff City Stadium and of course away all season and probably all of last season too, it is a shame how Cardiff get left with either a referee who is new and its his 1st ever match or a referee who don't give a crap about Cardiff either way the referee situation will continue on if or when of course we reach the Premier League

The Ref situation is nothing new in fact Cardiff City had no great referees at the Cardiff City Stadium and of course away all season and probably all of last season too, it is a shame how Cardiff get left with either a referee who is new and its his 1st ever match or a referee who don't give a crap about Cardiff either way the referee situation will continue on if or when of course we reach the Premier League

I've seen plenty of games where we have picked up points as a result of bad reffing decisions. I'm sure fans of other clubs must kill themselves laughing when they read this forum. We have a dig at Wolves fans, not sure why when we are just as bad.

The Ref situation is nothing new in fact Cardiff City had no great referees at the Cardiff City Stadium and of course away all season and probably all of last season too, it is a shame how Cardiff get left with either a referee who is new and its his 1st ever match or a referee who don't give a crap about Cardiff either way the referee situation will continue on if or when of course we reach the Premier League

I've seen plenty of games where we have picked up points as a result of bad reffing decisions. I'm sure fans of other clubs must kill themselves laughing when they read this forum. We have a dig at Wolves fans, not sure why when we are just as bad.

Ah right Steve we just sit down say nothing and forget about refereeing decisions as they are not part of a football match!

The Ref situation is nothing new in fact Cardiff City had no great referees at the Cardiff City Stadium and of course away all season and probably all of last season too, it is a shame how Cardiff get left with either a referee who is new and its his 1st ever match or a referee who don't give a crap about Cardiff either way the referee situation will continue on if or when of course we reach the Premier League

I've seen plenty of games where we have picked up points as a result of bad reffing decisions. I'm sure fans of other clubs must kill themselves laughing when they read this forum. We have a dig at Wolves fans, not sure why when we are just as bad.

Ah right Steve we just sit down say nothing and forget about refereeing decisions as they are not part of a football match!

Not saying that. I am saying we are not the only one of the 92 teams who get a bad deal from decisions. Never seen a ref get much of a mention on here when we win. I guarantee he will get plenty of comments when we don't. I accept we get bad decisions, but we are not the only ones although sometimes reading comments on here it sounds like every bad ref is exclusively reserved for us. Like I said, there is always an excuse whenever we fail to win.

The Ref situation is nothing new in fact Cardiff City had no great referees at the Cardiff City Stadium and of course away all season and probably all of last season too, it is a shame how Cardiff get left with either a referee who is new and its his 1st ever match or a referee who don't give a crap about Cardiff either way the referee situation will continue on if or when of course we reach the Premier League

I've seen plenty of games where we have picked up points as a result of bad reffing decisions. I'm sure fans of other clubs must kill themselves laughing when they read this forum. We have a dig at Wolves fans, not sure why when we are just as bad.

Ah right Steve we just sit down say nothing and forget about refereeing decisions as they are not part of a football match!

Not saying that. I am saying we are not the only one of the 92 teams who get a bad deal from decisions. Never seen a ref get much of a mention on here when we win. I guarantee he will get plenty of comments when we don't. I accept we get bad decisions, but we are not the only ones although sometimes reading comments on here it sounds like every bad ref is exclusively reserved for us. Like I said, there is always an excuse whenever we fail to win.

Steve at end of day no fans rave about decisions for their team but human nature means they do complain about bad decisions! And reason is that such decisions do cost points like Saturdays, i don't think they are excuses more frustrations at the poor refereeing that seems prefelent this season.

The Ref situation is nothing new in fact Cardiff City had no great referees at the Cardiff City Stadium and of course away all season and probably all of last season too, it is a shame how Cardiff get left with either a referee who is new and its his 1st ever match or a referee who don't give a crap about Cardiff either way the referee situation will continue on if or when of course we reach the Premier League

I've seen plenty of games where we have picked up points as a result of bad reffing decisions. I'm sure fans of other clubs must kill themselves laughing when they read this forum. We have a dig at Wolves fans, not sure why when we are just as bad.

Ah right Steve we just sit down say nothing and forget about refereeing decisions as they are not part of a football match!

Not saying that. I am saying we are not the only one of the 92 teams who get a bad deal from decisions. Never seen a ref get much of a mention on here when we win. I guarantee he will get plenty of comments when we don't. I accept we get bad decisions, but we are not the only ones although sometimes reading comments on here it sounds like every bad ref is exclusively reserved for us. Like I said, there is always an excuse whenever we fail to win.

Steve at end of day no fans rave about decisions for their team but human nature means they do complain about bad decisions! And reason is that such decisions do cost points like Saturdays, i don't think they are excuses more frustrations at the poor refereeing that seems prefelent this season.

I agree with you, and when I was a youngster I was exactly the same, maybe even worse. There are'nt many bigger City fans than me as you can probably tell by the amount of time I spend talking about them. I am the same in my local pubs, can bore everyone stupid with my love of the club. However, as I have got older I have been able to take the blinkers off, and can now stand back and look at the game from all sides. I see plenty of dodgy decisions nearly every game, and I mean every game not just those involving us. But I see quite a few going in our favour which should have gone the other way. Refs are not perfect and we just have to accept it. I have never refereed a game, but I know when I played I certainly did not make things easy for them.

The Ref situation is nothing new in fact Cardiff City had no great referees at the Cardiff City Stadium and of course away all season and probably all of last season too, it is a shame how Cardiff get left with either a referee who is new and its his 1st ever match or a referee who don't give a crap about Cardiff either way the referee situation will continue on if or when of course we reach the Premier League

I've seen plenty of games where we have picked up points as a result of bad reffing decisions. I'm sure fans of other clubs must kill themselves laughing when they read this forum. We have a dig at Wolves fans, not sure why when we are just as bad.

Ah right Steve we just sit down say nothing and forget about refereeing decisions as they are not part of a football match!

Not saying that. I am saying we are not the only one of the 92 teams who get a bad deal from decisions. Never seen a ref get much of a mention on here when we win. I guarantee he will get plenty of comments when we don't. I accept we get bad decisions, but we are not the only ones although sometimes reading comments on here it sounds like every bad ref is exclusively reserved for us. Like I said, there is always an excuse whenever we fail to win.

Steve at end of day no fans rave about decisions for their team but human nature means they do complain about bad decisions! And reason is that such decisions do cost points like Saturdays, i don't think they are excuses more frustrations at the poor refereeing that seems prefelent this season.

I agree with you, and when I was a youngster I was exactly the same, maybe even worse. There are'nt many bigger City fans than me as you can probably tell by the amount of time I spend talking about them. I am the same in my local pubs, can bore everyone stupid with my love of the club. However, as I have got older I have been able to take the blinkers off, and can now stand back and look at the game from all sides. I see plenty of dodgy decisions nearly every game, and I mean every game not just those involving us. But I see quite a few going in our favour which should have gone the other way. Refs are not perfect and we just have to accept it. I have never refereed a game, but I know when I played I certainly did not make things easy for them.

Job I wouldn't do! but iffy decision's are for arguments between fans, it its blatant ones that are wrong that make managers and fans blaming them for defeat! when that's not always the case as you've pointed out this is what happens .