Catalonia declare independence!!

A lot of Catalans don't want independence.

true,the referendum was a farce

Most sensible Cataloinians can see they dont have financial income to be independent ! Just like wales & Scotland!

...and Iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Malta etc. Independence isn't about finance it's a state of mind.

Let's hope their Independence is confirmed as soon as possible. Viva Catalunya!!!!

A lot of Catalans don't want independence.

true,the referendum was a farce

Most sensible Cataloinians can see they dont have financial income to be independent ! Just like wales & Scotland!

...and Iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Malta etc. Independence isn't about finance it's a state of mind.

A lot of Catalans don't want independence.

true,the referendum was a farce

Most sensible Cataloinians can see they dont have financial income to be independent ! Just like wales & Scotland!

...and Iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Malta etc. Independence isn't about finance it's a state of mind.

yep....a feeling of being hard done by..unfortunately independence doesnt cure this it just shifts it from countrys to regions .ask a few jacks if they think Cardiff get everything.

Let's hope their Independence is confirmed as soon as possible. Viva Catalunya!!!!

why?

A lot of Catalans don't want independence.

true,the referendum was a farce

Most sensible Cataloinians can see they dont have financial income to be independent ! Just like wales & Scotland!

...and Iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Malta etc. Independence isn't about finance it's a state of mind.

out of intrest did you vote to remain in the eu ?

Let's hope their Independence is confirmed as soon as possible. Viva Catalunya!!!!

why?

Because thats what their people want. 93% The Spanish government tried to damage the referendum and won't allow another, it is awful what has happened there, just awful. They'll get it eventually even if not now, Catalunya is not Spain just like years ago Ireland wasn't Britain and Iceland wasn't Denmark. Viva Catalunya and it's people!!

Let's hope their Independence is confirmed as soon as possible. Viva Catalunya!!!!

why?

Because thats what their people want. 93% The Spanish government tried to damage the referendum and won't allow another, it is awful what has happened there, just awful. They'll get it eventually even if not now, Catalunya is not Spain just like years ago Ireland wasn't Britain and Iceland wasn't Denmark. Viva Catalunya and it's people!!

you cant just ignore all those { the majority } that did not vote in a mickey mouse referendum.

if there is ever a proper vote and independence wins..good luck to them.

Let's hope their Independence is confirmed as soon as possible. Viva Catalunya!!!!

why?

Because thats what their people want. 93% The Spanish government tried to damage the referendum and won't allow another, it is awful what has happened there, just awful. They'll get it eventually even if not now, Catalunya is not Spain just like years ago Ireland wasn't Britain and Iceland wasn't Denmark. Viva Catalunya and it's people!!

it wasnt even a legal referendum

many instances of multi voting too.. an absolute joke

Let's hope their Independence is confirmed as soon as possible. Viva Catalunya!!!!

why?

Because thats what their people want. 93% The Spanish government tried to damage the referendum and won't allow another, it is awful what has happened there, just awful. They'll get it eventually even if not now, Catalunya is not Spain just like years ago Ireland wasn't Britain and Iceland wasn't Denmark. Viva Catalunya and it's people!!

you cant just ignore all those { the majority } that did not vote in a mickey mouse referendum.

if there is ever a proper vote and independence wins..good luck to them.

agree

Problem is that if this had been some oil rich country or a Balkans state trying to break away (Kosovo/Serbia) we would have bombed the shit out of them by now to help it along. Not that I am saying we should bomb Spain of course but again the UK plays all nice with Spain because they don't want to upset them during Brexit.

I think very soon, Galicia and the Basque region will kick up a fuss in support of Catalan.

Catalan would survive longer than Wales would!

Problem is that if this had been some oil rich country or a Balkans state trying to break away (Kosovo/Serbia) we would have bombed the shit out of them by now to help it along. Not that I am saying we should bomb Spain of course but again the UK plays all nice with Spain because they don't want to upset them during Brexit.

I think very soon, Galicia and the Basque region will kick up a fuss in support of Catalan.

Catalan would survive longer than Wales would!

well its much bigger than wales and richer too

Isn’t Perpignan south of France Catalonian?

Over 90% of Catalonia people want it although the Spanish bully boy tactics tried to stop the referendum and damage its integrity. Viva Catalunya - Wales is with you.

I wonder if the UK or US of Trump will send a military task force in now to protect them? It's a bit like Kuwait all over again

90%??

I love you people who know what even the 'locals' don't!

One of the reasons the Catalans didn't go out and vote was that overall (majority) they don't back the idea of separation. Many ordinary Spaniards live/work in the Catalan region and (like Scotland's former First Minister Alec Salmond and our own Leanne Wood) their political leaders are only truly representative of their own personal views/ambitions!

Catalonia has created a dangerous situation not only for themselves but Spain as a country and also (some will rejoice in this with no thought of the consequences for the whole of Europe, including the UK) the EU machine itself!

I guess the only good thing that could come of it would be Barca's twin town Swansealona asking for the same but I think the rest of wales would back that vote!

Sven agree catalonians know they cannot survive as a separate state/country and its only minority nationalists who want it just like here in uk. Having said that doesn't help when Spanish gvmnt bullies and provokes them unnecessarily.

Allan, Scotland would be the best equipped and even they know deep down it would be exceptionally tough now the oil industry is in decline. Wales, like Catalonia, simply couldn't cope on its own and as much as we (rightly on occasion) moan about the London-entric Government of the UK, it could be a lot worse!

I agree that the Spanish government have gone about this the wrong way and it will take some exceptional diplomacy to pull things back together!

you're wrong Catalan economy is much better than Scotland's it accounts to 20 % of spains GDP

While Catalans only account for about 16 percent of the Spanish population, Catalonia makes a hefty contribution to the overall Spanish economy, making 223.6 billion euros ($262.96 billion) a year, according to the regional government. This is around 20 percent of its total gross domestic product (GDP

You can understand why Spain don’t want to loose them then really

You can understand why Spain don’t want to loose them then really

Yes thet are going to cripple there already struggling economy

Problem is that if this had been some oil rich country or a Balkans state trying to break away (Kosovo/Serbia) we would have bombed the shit out of them by now to help it along. Not that I am saying we should bomb Spain of course but again the UK plays all nice with Spain because they don't want to upset them during Brexit.

I think very soon, Galicia and the Basque region will kick up a fuss in support of Catalan.

Catalan would survive longer than Wales would!

NO...i dont think we would be bombing the shit out of anyone because about a third of people in a certain area {and even that figure is questionable due to irregularities } voted for idependence...

A lot of Catalans don't want independence.

Correct they don't , and Nor does Mallorca

I read in a newspaper last week that Mallorca is technically part of Catalonia. Is that true Annis?

Tony, NO, they try to make Mallorca and all the Balearic Islands part of them, what it is, that Mallorca has been working with them for the last 10 years, Councils, govt's etc.

Mallorca would Never join Catalonia, they would if anything try for their own independence, but that would prob never happen.

Because of what Catalonia has done and been doing , Many Spanish bars have stopped buying products from Catalonia, Sam Miguel, meat etc.


All the main offices of banks have left Catalonia in the last 2 weeks and moved to Palma in Mallorca, so in fact we have gained.

Mallorca has already pledged its allegiance to Madrid.


The election in Catalonia was only done by 40% of their population and in one village where 580 people lived, 800 people some how voted

They must have borrowed Celtics crowd calculator

Catalonia look like they will now get nothing and over 2,000 big businesses from banks to breweries have moved out.