' RED OR WHITE POPPY? '

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

As I've said thanks to people like your family we live in a free country, however it's my opinion the white poppy worn on Remembrance Day is an insult to our troops.

Jock, this guy his very selective in his responses. He's stated he doesn't actually wear a poppy (his prerogative in the free country gained by those who laid down their lives) yet still has an apparently strong opinion on the wearing itself! You couldn't make it up sometimes!

There are many reasons not to wear the white poppy on this particular day but the most appropriate is 'tradition'; the very thing a lot of these same people are decrying yet were screaming about when the football club were going through its problems a few reasons ago. It may not be the same thing or at the same level but it does show the mixed/convenient thinking of some of these characters!

my generation was the first not to do National Service, many of the guys who taught me my trade had served in Korea and Malaya. I wear a poppy as a mark of respect not to make some political point or statement, it reminds me how fortunate my own and every generation after have been, not to have had to face what others did. So I suggest they take their white poppy and ram it right up their sanctimonious Nat King Cole.

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

As I've said thanks to people like your family we live in a free country, however it's my opinion the white poppy worn on Remembrance Day is an insult to our troops.

Jock, this guy his very selective in his responses. He's stated he doesn't actually wear a poppy (his prerogative in the free country gained by those who laid down their lives) yet still has an apparently strong opinion on the wearing itself! You couldn't make it up sometimes!

There are many reasons not to wear the white poppy on this particular day but the most appropriate is 'tradition'; the very thing a lot of these same people are decrying yet were screaming about when the football club were going through its problems a few reasons ago. It may not be the same thing or at the same level but it does show the mixed/convenient thinking of some of these characters!

Apologies for not replying sooner with my "selective responses" you're right that the men who died laid down their lives did it so people like me can have the freedom we do now. I personally don't wear the poppy because in my opinion it has become political. The fact that help for heroes uses the poppy is enough evidence that it's no longer just a symbol of WW1 but for all British troops. Troops which have been involved in the middle East and Ireland. Now this is in no way me showing my disdain or disrespect for the British troops who serve and die. Like I've said I fully respect what they've done. I would never be able to sign myself up for such a gruelling, traumatic and horrific life.

It's my freedom (that you so mentioned) from these men and women which lets me choose whether I want to wear a poppy. Surely it would be against what they died for if every person had to wear a poppy to show their respect. If you want to wear a poppy to show your respect I have no issue with that. The same way that I hope you wouldn't have an issue with me not wearing one. We all have different ways of showing our gratitude for the sacrifice made nearly 100 years ago and I think it's a shame people are being criticized for using their freedom that sacrifice gained.

Anyway as with any political or personal arguments I'm not expecting to change your opinion on the subject. A football message board is especially not the platform to attempt that. I'm just laying down my views and reasons in the hope you can respect them.

They are your views and opiniins and frankly it makes no odds to me if you choose to wear one or not. I wear mine to respect the dead who served my country in whichever conflict whether it be WW1 or Northern Ireland.

I am not really bothered if you do or not.

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

As I've said thanks to people like your family we live in a free country, however it's my opinion the white poppy worn on Remembrance Day is an insult to our troops.

Jock, this guy his very selective in his responses. He's stated he doesn't actually wear a poppy (his prerogative in the free country gained by those who laid down their lives) yet still has an apparently strong opinion on the wearing itself! You couldn't make it up sometimes!

There are many reasons not to wear the white poppy on this particular day but the most appropriate is 'tradition'; the very thing a lot of these same people are decrying yet were screaming about when the football club were going through its problems a few reasons ago. It may not be the same thing or at the same level but it does show the mixed/convenient thinking of some of these characters!

Apologies for not replying sooner with my "selective responses" you're right that the men who died laid down their lives did it so people like me can have the freedom we do now. I personally don't wear the poppy because in my opinion it has become political. The fact that help for heroes uses the poppy is enough evidence that it's no longer just a symbol of WW1 but for all British troops. Troops which have been involved in the middle East and Ireland. Now this is in no way me showing my disdain or disrespect for the British troops who serve and die. Like I've said I fully respect what they've done. I would never be able to sign myself up for such a gruelling, traumatic and horrific life.

It's my freedom (that you so mentioned) from these men and women which lets me choose whether I want to wear a poppy. Surely it would be against what they died for if every person had to wear a poppy to show their respect. If you want to wear a poppy to show your respect I have no issue with that. The same way that I hope you wouldn't have an issue with me not wearing one. We all have different ways of showing our gratitude for the sacrifice made nearly 100 years ago and I think it's a shame people are being criticized for using their freedom that sacrifice gained.

Anyway as with any political or personal arguments I'm not expecting to change your opinion on the subject. A football message board is especially not the platform to attempt that. I'm just laying down my views and reasons in the hope you can respect them.

Now you're spouting rubbish. Where is the poppy in the help for heroes logo? They may well have one on their website at this time of year as they themselves are indeed respecting the symbol and what it stands for... unlike you. Their logo is a medal and a tri service ribbon. Google it before you speak.

It is people like YOU that have made the symbol political by spouting about not wearing one. Don't wear one. Fine. But don't justify that by saying it's because others have made it political.

The poppy that is sold all proceeds go the The Royal British Legion. In fact most of their donations come from this time of year. They do a fantastic job lookking after service people and their families from whether that be from conflict or other issues.

Why does the poppy not (only) representing WW1 matter? That's what I don't get? A soldier with PTSD from Iraq/Afghan/or anywhere else not worthy of any help from a (what is in my opinion a fantastic) charity?

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

As I've said thanks to people like your family we live in a free country, however it's my opinion the white poppy worn on Remembrance Day is an insult to our troops.

Jock, this guy his very selective in his responses. He's stated he doesn't actually wear a poppy (his prerogative in the free country gained by those who laid down their lives) yet still has an apparently strong opinion on the wearing itself! You couldn't make it up sometimes!

There are many reasons not to wear the white poppy on this particular day but the most appropriate is 'tradition'; the very thing a lot of these same people are decrying yet were screaming about when the football club were going through its problems a few reasons ago. It may not be the same thing or at the same level but it does show the mixed/convenient thinking of some of these characters!

Apologies for not replying sooner with my "selective responses" you're right that the men who died laid down their lives did it so people like me can have the freedom we do now. I personally don't wear the poppy because in my opinion it has become political. The fact that help for heroes uses the poppy is enough evidence that it's no longer just a symbol of WW1 but for all British troops. Troops which have been involved in the middle East and Ireland. Now this is in no way me showing my disdain or disrespect for the British troops who serve and die. Like I've said I fully respect what they've done. I would never be able to sign myself up for such a gruelling, traumatic and horrific life.

It's my freedom (that you so mentioned) from these men and women which lets me choose whether I want to wear a poppy. Surely it would be against what they died for if every person had to wear a poppy to show their respect. If you want to wear a poppy to show your respect I have no issue with that. The same way that I hope you wouldn't have an issue with me not wearing one. We all have different ways of showing our gratitude for the sacrifice made nearly 100 years ago and I think it's a shame people are being criticized for using their freedom that sacrifice gained.

Anyway as with any political or personal arguments I'm not expecting to change your opinion on the subject. A football message board is especially not the platform to attempt that. I'm just laying down my views and reasons in the hope you can respect them.

how can a small minority being disrespectful to those killed in the service of their country be political.?
when the vast majority of POLITICians of all parties have worn red poppies and respectfully attended ceremonies for almost a 100 years.

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

As I've said thanks to people like your family we live in a free country, however it's my opinion the white poppy worn on Remembrance Day is an insult to our troops.

Jock, this guy his very selective in his responses. He's stated he doesn't actually wear a poppy (his prerogative in the free country gained by those who laid down their lives) yet still has an apparently strong opinion on the wearing itself! You couldn't make it up sometimes!

There are many reasons not to wear the white poppy on this particular day but the most appropriate is 'tradition'; the very thing a lot of these same people are decrying yet were screaming about when the football club were going through its problems a few reasons ago. It may not be the same thing or at the same level but it does show the mixed/convenient thinking of some of these characters!

Apologies for not replying sooner with my "selective responses" you're right that the men who died laid down their lives did it so people like me can have the freedom we do now. I personally don't wear the poppy because in my opinion it has become political. The fact that help for heroes uses the poppy is enough evidence that it's no longer just a symbol of WW1 but for all British troops. Troops which have been involved in the middle East and Ireland. Now this is in no way me showing my disdain or disrespect for the British troops who serve and die. Like I've said I fully respect what they've done. I would never be able to sign myself up for such a gruelling, traumatic and horrific life.

It's my freedom (that you so mentioned) from these men and women which lets me choose whether I want to wear a poppy. Surely it would be against what they died for if every person had to wear a poppy to show their respect. If you want to wear a poppy to show your respect I have no issue with that. The same way that I hope you wouldn't have an issue with me not wearing one. We all have different ways of showing our gratitude for the sacrifice made nearly 100 years ago and I think it's a shame people are being criticized for using their freedom that sacrifice gained.

Anyway as with any political or personal arguments I'm not expecting to change your opinion on the subject. A football message board is especially not the platform to attempt that. I'm just laying down my views and reasons in the hope you can respect them.

how can a small minority being disrespectful to those killed in the service of their country be political.?
when the vast majority of POLITICians of all parties have worn red poppies and respectfully attended ceremonies for almost a 100 years.

It's only political because a small percentage of people like north cardiffblue have made it political. To me it is simply a remark of respect and absolutely nothing more.

RBL ad at the bottom of the Page, "Wear the Poppy for you" Ive always worn red, thats just me.it doesnt matter what other people try and twist this into, got to make your own choices.

As usual I will wear the red poppy. I had three uncles who served in WW2 and I lost an uncle at Ypres in WW1. Perhaps we should also remember the 27 million Russians who died in WW2; 87% of Wehrmacht casualties were inflicted on the Eastern Front, a fact ignored by many. So when we say "if it was not for the likes of them " we should also remember the carnage unleashed upon the Russian people from June 1941. I am in no way denigrating the sacrifice of our troops, rather I an trying to offer a perspective. War is pitiless and we should never forget all who served for the greater good.

As usual I will wear the red poppy. I had three uncles who served in WW2 and I lost an uncle at Ypres in WW1. Perhaps we should also remember the 27 million Russians who died in WW2; 87% of Wehrmacht casualties were inflicted on the Eastern Front, a fact ignored by many. So when we say "if it was not for the likes of them " we should also remember the carnage unleashed upon the Russian people from June 1941. I am in no way denigrating the sacrifice of our troops, rather I an trying to offer a perspective. War is pitiless and we should never forget all who served for the greater good.

Good post.