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Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:48 pm

dogfound wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:Goal Belgium! :clap:



Greece can now only get 13pts in the runners up race in that group..Bosnia can get 14 though, but that would include a win against Belgium.


Good result that then for us tonight, been studying it again after tonight's games and we could really do with Northern Ireland losing againt Czech Republic tomorrow because they will still probably finish 2nd but they would need to take something off Germany to reach atleast 14 points like our maximum if we won the 2 games!

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:21 pm

Eddie ccfc wrote:
gergisabluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:Goal Belgium! :clap:



Greece can now only get 13pts in the runners up race in that group..Bosnia can get 14 though, but that would include a win against Belgium.


Greece are already on 13 with games against Cyprus (Away) and Gibraltar (Home) remaining - expect them to win both so takes them to 19 so we would therefore have to win all 3 remaining to better them


Points against the bottoms teams in group don't count towards the 2nd place mini league!!


Ah missed that rule !
So as we stand our 3 point win against Moldova wouldn't count (so 8 points) meaning we would still have to beat Georgia AND Ireland to reach 14 and beat Greece on 13 (assume they beat Cyprus).
Still so many if's and but's

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:40 am

gergisabluebird wrote:
Eddie ccfc wrote:
gergisabluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:Goal Belgium! :clap:



Greece can now only get 13pts in the runners up race in that group..Bosnia can get 14 though, but that would include a win against Belgium.


Greece are already on 13 with games against Cyprus (Away) and Gibraltar (Home) remaining - expect them to win both so takes them to 19 so we would therefore have to win all 3 remaining to better them


Points against the bottoms teams in group don't count towards the 2nd place mini league!!


Ah missed that rule !
So as we stand our 3 point win against Moldova wouldn't count (so 8 points) meaning we would still have to beat Georgia AND Ireland to reach 14 and beat Greece on 13 (assume they beat Cyprus).
Still so many if's and but's


Christ this is getting complicated - who put an american in charge of the points system - own up! :lol:

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:49 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:All these scenarios seem to be based on Wales achieving four successive wins to finish the qualifying campaign. With only two wins from seven games, I think it unlikely that we will win the next three to add to yesterday's victory. Unless we show a really big improvement, we will fall well short of what is required.



its why i added its all a bit premature.
4 wins on trot is difficult for any team at any level i agree.. but we are talking about our chances of qualification. and im afraid that is whats required..and its possible that wont be enough.

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:11 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
gergisabluebird wrote:
Eddie ccfc wrote:
gergisabluebird wrote:
dogfound wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:Goal Belgium! :clap:



Greece can now only get 13pts in the runners up race in that group..Bosnia can get 14 though, but that would include a win against Belgium.


Greece are already on 13 with games against Cyprus (Away) and Gibraltar (Home) remaining - expect them to win both so takes them to 19 so we would therefore have to win all 3 remaining to better them


Points against the bottoms teams in group don't count towards the 2nd place mini league!!


Ah missed that rule !
So as we stand our 3 point win against Moldova wouldn't count (so 8 points) meaning we would still have to beat Georgia AND Ireland to reach 14 and beat Greece on 13 (assume they beat Cyprus).
Still so many if's and but's


Christ this is getting complicated - who put an american in charge of the points system - own up! :lol:



this link pretty much covers it..tables .including a table of the 2nd place mini lge with games against the bottom teams excluded...results..and remaining games..
the only thing missing is that its possible for a team currently in 3rd place to have more points in the runner up table than the team currently in 2nd...so therefore making it worse for ourselves should that team jump into 2nd spot in their overall table...Greece and Bosnia are an example of this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA ... %28UEFA%29

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:41 am

what if moldova gain points and go above georgia in the group? then we could gain 2 points.

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:58 am

have I just read this correctly...

a team finishing 3rd with more points than teams finishing 2nd in other groups, can be included in the play offs ?

So you could have 3 teams from one group going to Russia ?

that cant be right !

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:03 pm

barry boy wrote:have I just read this correctly...

a team finishing 3rd with more points than teams finishing 2nd in other groups, can be included in the play offs ?

So you could have 3 teams from one group going to Russia ?

that cant be right !



No, 9 qualifying groups, the winners all go to russia. the best 8 of the 9 second placed teams go into a playoff where the 4 winners go to Russia.

EUROPEAN TEAMS AT WORLD CUP

Russia (hosts)
Winner Group A
Winner Group B
Winner Group C
Winner Group D
Winner Group E
Winner Group F
Winner Group G
Winner Group H
Winner Group I
4 Runners up

14 European teams in total.

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:52 pm

barry boy wrote:have I just read this correctly...

a team finishing 3rd with more points than teams finishing 2nd in other groups, can be included in the play offs ?

So you could have 3 teams from one group going to Russia ?

that cant be right !



no..3rds do not count..but if you look at the greece ,bosnia group...bosnia are currently 2nd and greece 3rd.
but greece have better results against top 5 teams..

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:00 pm

Mr Shed wrote:what if moldova gain points and go above georgia in the group? then we could gain 2 points.



correct...providing its not us that they get points off.

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:46 pm

dogfound wrote:
Mr Shed wrote:what if moldova gain points and go above georgia in the group? then we could gain 2 points.



correct...providing its not us that they get points off.



Got more chance of a unicorn shitting gold than Moldova finishing above Georgia

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:19 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Mr Shed wrote:what if moldova gain points and go above georgia in the group? then we could gain 2 points.



correct...providing its not us that they get points off.



Got more chance of a unicorn shitting gold than Moldova finishing above Georgia



i was answering a question.

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:48 pm

All to play for ;)

Re: ' Wales - How it could go. '

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:43 pm

Watch us beat Georgia but have 3-4 suspensions v Ireland. Too many possibilities, I can't take it. :banghead: