' Fans forgiven Tan ? '

Once again walesonline is trying to split the fanbase because they haven't got nothing genuine to report on so resort to the cheap option.Imo we fans should all agree on supporting the team and not the regime and turn our full attention to getting behind the team and talking 100% about football, it's looking very promising for a good season and the very least the team and management deserve is our full support.

Perhaps if Mr Tan bought everyone an ice cream all would be OK or a Red top

Not many people hated the rebrand more then me but I got no problem with Tan now though.

It's the 'it's if you don't want to be part of it 'just clear off' comments from fellow fans at the time I can't forget.

Still remember those (cunts in red ) giving it to me big time as I marched with BU. CCFC

I have forgiven Tan I did not like the red like many However I do not need a verbal apology I think his actions speak louder than any apology He is walking the walk now . We all would have come across people who would say sorry but their actions say different
Think of Sams actions I know who I would prefer

What the op says is right for me red scarf was my all time lowest i hated all those city fans that ivd loved since a kid .
I hated promotion i actually shouted abuse to tan the night we got promoted.
I remember a friend saying ffs Justin we are in the prem this has to make you happy.No it didnt.
I would wait outside for tan to let him no how i gelt .i went on radio and the echo marches and anything i could to get my point across .
The worswd was games i always went with my kids proudly in blue always to be told by other city fans let it Justin its 100m.
Pain pain pain but i kept going because i loved ccfc and wasnt going down with out fighting for my club.

We one doesn't matter how or why we one.
The only thing we don't have is the proper badge but i sort of live with it as it represents us better than the beer mat.
Ill never truly forgive Tan for years of pain but for the same reason i fought in the first place ill move on for ccfc the club i love.
It feels like us again now it feels right my passion is back and thats good enough for me.
Would i sit down and eat curry with Tan NO.

What the op says is right for me red scarf was my all time lowest i hated all those city fans that ivd loved since a kid .
I hated promotion i actually shouted abuse to tan the night we got promoted.
I remember a friend saying ffs Justin we are in the prem this has to make you happy.No it didnt.
I would wait outside for tan to let him no how i gelt .i went on radio and the echo marches and anything i could to get my point across .
The worswd was games i always went with my kids proudly in blue always to be told by other city fans let it Justin its 100m.
Pain pain pain but i kept going because i loved ccfc and wasnt going down with out fighting for my club.

We one doesn't matter how or why we one.
The only thing we don't have is the proper badge but i sort of live with it as it represents us better than the beer mat.
Ill never truly forgive Tan for years of pain but for the same reason i fought in the first place ill move on for ccfc the club i love.
It feels like us again now it feels right my passion is back and thats good enough for me.
Would i sit down and eat curry with Tan NO.

Sorry but "pain" and "fighting" belong in a context over and above the change of club colours. If you're fighting illness that's causing you severe pain I can relate to that. But the rebrand whilst understandably unpopular was not life threatening nor as it transpired irreversible. And as for hating promotion, really ?!

Perhaps if Mr Tan bought everyone an ice cream all would be OK or a Red top

Well,well,well,changing peoples posts about sums up the anti Tan mentality on this board.

Totally agree. I carried on supporting the team through the appalling rebrand and campaigning for a return to blue.
Tan puts money into the club in the form of loans, with 6% interest.
When he sells the club he'll want it all back.
We now have a great manager and squad and I'm looking to the future with excitement.

6% interest????? Think that bullshit you do know that hes written off over 50 million already of his loans ? Take alook at the accounts

What the op says is right for me red scarf was my all time lowest i hated all those city fans that ivd loved since a kid .
I hated promotion i actually shouted abuse to tan the night we got promoted.
I remember a friend saying ffs Justin we are in the prem this has to make you happy.No it didnt.
I would wait outside for tan to let him no how i gelt .i went on radio and the echo marches and anything i could to get my point across .
The worswd was games i always went with my kids proudly in blue always to be told by other city fans let it Justin its 100m.
Pain pain pain but i kept going because i loved ccfc and wasnt going down with out fighting for my club.

We one doesn't matter how or why we one.
The only thing we don't have is the proper badge but i sort of live with it as it represents us better than the beer mat.
Ill never truly forgive Tan for years of pain but for the same reason i fought in the first place ill move on for ccfc the club i love.
It feels like us again now it feels right my passion is back and thats good enough for me.
Would i sit down and eat curry with Tan NO.

Sorry but "pain" and "fighting" belong in a context over and above the change of club colours. If you're fighting illness that's causing you severe pain I can relate to that. But the rebrand whilst understandably unpopular was not life threatening nor as it transpired irreversible. And as for hating promotion, really ?!

You no exactly what u mean why be an arse about it i gave my opinion and you mock my wording.
Go be teaches pet mate
Bet you were a prefect.
Do get people like you

Forgiveness absolutely the rebrand was so hard for me to personally take! Likened to a loved one dying!

But the reversal back to blue has helped! Forgiveness yes never forgotten!

Everything right now is positive including the ownership of the club! Feels like we should follow Wales moto! Together stronger

What the op says is right for me red scarf was my all time lowest i hated all those city fans that ivd loved since a kid .
I hated promotion i actually shouted abuse to tan the night we got promoted.
I remember a friend saying ffs Justin we are in the prem this has to make you happy.No it didnt.
I would wait outside for tan to let him no how i gelt .i went on radio and the echo marches and anything i could to get my point across .
The worswd was games i always went with my kids proudly in blue always to be told by other city fans let it Justin its 100m.
Pain pain pain but i kept going because i loved ccfc and wasnt going down with out fighting for my club.

We one doesn't matter how or why we one.
The only thing we don't have is the proper badge but i sort of live with it as it represents us better than the beer mat.
Ill never truly forgive Tan for years of pain but for the same reason i fought in the first place ill move on for ccfc the club i love.
It feels like us again now it feels right my passion is back and thats good enough for me.
Would i sit down and eat curry with Tan NO.

Sorry but "pain" and "fighting" belong in a context over and above the change of club colours. If you're fighting illness that's causing you severe pain I can relate to that. But the rebrand whilst understandably unpopular was not life threatening nor as it transpired irreversible. And as for hating promotion, really ?!

You no exactly what u mean why be an arse about it i gave my opinion and you mock my wording.
Go be teaches pet mate
Bet you were a prefect.
Do get people like you[/quot

What are you banging on about ?

I'm not mocking your wording at all. I just cannot believe that anyone could get so extremely upset over a change of colour.

As for your other childish comments, I will not dignify them with a response

Obviously if we care about the club and it's identity we will never forget it!

I am a very positive person and I like to think it only highlights the importance of our identity but we have it back now.

Bloody papers are not happy unless they are spreading doom and gloom!

We need to move on and stop opening old wounds as it is will not help us to move forward.

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Perhaps if Mr Tan bought everyone an ice cream all would be OK or a Red top

Well,well,well,changing peoples posts about sums up the anti Tan mentality on this board.

Martin, I did it as a bit of fun, u started the sarcasm wanting an ice cream, so I thought u must have aanted a red top as well

i would never forgive tan but just gotta move on with the good times ahead its like your mrs cheating you wouldnt forgive her but would still want the best for your kids

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

No i didn't give a dam, im a cardiff city supporter ,born in Cardiff, grew up in Cardiff and will always support my home town club what ever happens or who ever owns us

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

No i didn't give a dam, im a cardiff city supporter ,born in Cardiff, grew up in Cardiff and will always support my home town club what ever happens or who ever owns us

And those of us who care about our heritage don't?

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

No i didn't give a dam, im a cardiff city supporter ,born in Cardiff, grew up in Cardiff and will always support my home town club what ever happens or who ever owns us

And those of us who care about our heritage don't?

I didn't say that I said my personal feelings after you tried to call me out

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

No i didn't give a dam, im a cardiff city supporter ,born in Cardiff, grew up in Cardiff and will always support my home town club what ever happens or who ever owns us

And those of us who care about our heritage don't?

I didn't say that I said my personal feelings after you tried to call me out

Well to not care about our heritage which the colour is a major part of is difficult to accept for me.

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

No i didn't give a dam, im a cardiff city supporter ,born in Cardiff, grew up in Cardiff and will always support my home town club what ever happens or who ever owns us

And those of us who care about our heritage don't?

I didn't say that I said my personal feelings after you tried to call me out

Well to not care about our heritage which the colour is a major part of is difficult to accept for me.

Ian,
For me your heritage/identity / Colour is Cardiff City and your PRIDE & PASSION Goes with it

What the op says is right for me red scarf was my all time lowest i hated all those city fans that ivd loved since a kid .
I hated promotion i actually shouted abuse to tan the night we got promoted.
I remember a friend saying ffs Justin we are in the prem this has to make you happy.No it didnt.
I would wait outside for tan to let him no how i gelt .i went on radio and the echo marches and anything i could to get my point across .
The worswd was games i always went with my kids proudly in blue always to be told by other city fans let it Justin its 100m.
Pain pain pain but i kept going because i loved ccfc and wasnt going down with out fighting for my club.

We one doesn't matter how or why we one.
The only thing we don't have is the proper badge but i sort of live with it as it represents us better than the beer mat.
Ill never truly forgive Tan for years of pain but for the same reason i fought in the first place ill move on for ccfc the club i love.
It feels like us again now it feels right my passion is back and thats good enough for me.
Would i sit down and eat curry with Tan NO.

Sorry but "pain" and "fighting" belong in a context over and above the change of club colours. If you're fighting illness that's causing you severe pain I can relate to that. But the rebrand whilst understandably unpopular was not life threatening nor as it transpired irreversible. And as for hating promotion, really ?!

You no exactly what u mean why be an arse about it i gave my opinion and you mock my wording.
Go be teaches pet mate
Bet you were a prefect.
Do get people like you[/quot

What are you banging on about ?

I'm not mocking your wording at all. I just cannot believe that anyone could get so extremely upset over a change of colour.

As for your other childish comments, I will not dignify them with a response

Pointless you commenting at all then if you don't understand why many people got so upset over the rebrand.
Ive explained as others have many times if people still dont get it then pointless.
You have your opinion ill have mine.
All this was said years ago .

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

No i didn't give a dam, im a cardiff city supporter ,born in Cardiff, grew up in Cardiff and will always support my home town club what ever happens or who ever owns us

And those of us who care about our heritage don't?

I didn't say that I said my personal feelings after you tried to call me out

Well to not care about our heritage which the colour is a major part of is difficult to accept for me.

Heritage is more than a colour you plank

For me the stripping of our Identity which to me is everything, NO i Can not forgive Vincent Tan and rem Tan laughed in our faces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFql_DHl78


We are all allowed our feelings/belief and opinions and for me Tan in some ways destroyed our club to many

The Rebrand tore our once Proud Club to pieces.


We will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo, and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the coming season with the current badge – Cardiff City statement – 10th May 2012

Isn't it time you forgive and forget annis ? You got to see the good he and the club are doing now ,you forgave Sam ?

Easy for you to say that Wez. You didn't give a damn what colour we played in.

No i didn't give a dam, im a cardiff city supporter ,born in Cardiff, grew up in Cardiff and will always support my home town club what ever happens or who ever owns us

And those of us who care about our heritage don't?

I didn't say that I said my personal feelings after you tried to call me out

Well to not care about our heritage which the colour is a major part of is difficult to accept for me.

Heritage is more than a colour you plank

What don't you understand about major part......plonker.

Ummmmmmm???

Do I spew my guts with the venom built up about a businessman decision which tore a club apart?

Or

Do I move On?

Ummmmmmmmmmm

No
Yes
No
Yes

Um argh fucj c**t never forget, tw*t, pawn; sap, awkward, u.mm, argggh

f**k it

I'll move on

( for the sake if my fellow fans and my club)

What the op says is right for me red scarf was my all time lowest i hated all those city fans that ivd loved since a kid .
I hated promotion i actually shouted abuse to tan the night we got promoted.
I remember a friend saying ffs Justin we are in the prem this has to make you happy.No it didnt.
I would wait outside for tan to let him no how i gelt .i went on radio and the echo marches and anything i could to get my point across .
The worswd was games i always went with my kids proudly in blue always to be told by other city fans let it Justin its 100m.
Pain pain pain but i kept going because i loved ccfc and wasnt going down with out fighting for my club.

We one doesn't matter how or why we one.
The only thing we don't have is the proper badge but i sort of live with it as it represents us better than the beer mat.
Ill never truly forgive Tan for years of pain but for the same reason i fought in the first place ill move on for ccfc the club i love.
It feels like us again now it feels right my passion is back and thats good enough for me.
Would i sit down and eat curry with Tan NO.

Respect mate. Well done for your protests at the time. Times are good now thank god Tan saw he had lost and got back on board with the other red fans.

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Lauren Ann McNie:

"But success and the chance to see Cardiff City in Premier League was enough to keep me and many others shamefully silent"
This was the main problem... the Premier League is not the be all and end all of football.

I have not forgiven Tan; I don't understand how you can forgive someone without an apology!? And he did know how we'd react as there was a massive backlash when it first surfaced about the colour change and the other guy (I forget his name... Dato Chan??) released a statement saying that they didn't realise the effect it would have so they weren't going through with it. He "leaves" the club and we turn out in red. Tan knew exactly how we'd feel but did it anyway and managed to buy a lot of fans' silence with a cheap scarf.

sums it up....
some bird that although feels shameful over her silence and non action at the time.
but still wants to blame some one else.

bottom line is had people taken up the clubs offer to refund ST money in large numbers..emailed/wrote letters of protest in large numbers..and actually protested from day 1 in large numbers it would never have happened.
i did none of the above.
i just made a point of wearing blue..which although was very little was still a damn sight more than some of the PLASTIC blues who did zero then..but want to give it big now.

Time for you ALL to grow up. I agree the rebranding was a disaster but to be fair to Tan he saw the error of his ways and returned to Blue. He has sacked crap managers and appointed a manager who knows how to run a club and team. I am sure if it were not for Tan Cardiff would have gone to the wall and this message board would not exist, so come on give it a rest and support the club and team.

But success and the chance to see Cardiff City in Premier League was enough to keep me and many others shamefully silent.

It remained a debate in the family between my brother, father and me: was all this worth it if we get to see City in the Prem?

This is a myth that has somehow been repeated so often its slowly becoming truth.

For many it wasnt a case of accepting red in exchange for Premjer league glory, it was a case of reluctantly accepting red because there were no other investors on the horizon and hadnt been for a long time and we were in so much financial trouble if one of the many winding up orders we faced was acted upon it could have meant liquidation - not administration where we would have faced a fine and docking points but complete stripping of all assets with no more CCFC.

Very few liked it - but some accepted it was the lesser of two evils.

Also if we were liquadated and had ro start from scratch then the the FA granting us a welsh club access to the English pyramid system was far from guaranteed so even if we did a Wimbledon and formed a phoenix club it may well have been in the LoW.

The choice between accepting red for the sake of fifteen minutes in the sun is very different to a choice of a CCFC in red being preferable to no CCFC at all - which is actually a better description of the situation.

Thats what always annoyed me avout this rather be blue in league two bollocks. That really wasnt an option without Tans money we could well have be battling with TNS and Rhyl rather than Torquay and Rochdale.

But success and the chance to see Cardiff City in Premier League was enough to keep me and many others shamefully silent.

It remained a debate in the family between my brother, father and me: was all this worth it if we get to see City in the Prem?

This is a myth that has somehow been repeated so often its slowly becoming truth.

For many it wasnt a case of accepting red in exchange for Premjer league glory, it was a case of reluctantly accepting red because there were no other investors on the horizon and hadnt been for a long time and we were in so much financial trouble if one of the many winding up orders we faced was acted upon it could have meant liquidation - not administration where we would have faced a fine and docking points but complete stripping of all assets with no more CCFC.

Very few liked it - but some accepted it was the lesser of two evils.

Also if we were liquadated and had ro start from scratch then the the FA granting us a welsh club access to the English pyramid system was far from guaranteed so even if we did a Wimbledon and formed a phoenix club it may well have been in the LoW.

The choice between accepting red for the sake of fifteen minutes in the sun is very different to a choice of a CCFC in red being preferable to no CCFC at all - which is actually a better description of the situation.

Thats what always annoyed me avout this rather be blue in league two bollocks. That really wasnt an option without Tans money we could well have be battling with TNS and Rhyl rather than Torquay and Rochdale.

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