Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:37 pm
Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:42 pm
SnackaJack wrote:BobbyBlue wrote:
Selling the best two players who are proven in the prem and bringing in players who are not proven, we will just have to wait and see if they cut the mustard. Don't forget with all this money other teams are strengthening their playing squads too.
I don't know much about this mesa guy, good passing stats apparently just have to see if he can replicate it in the prem, just because they are good in Spain doesn't mean they will cut it in the prem. No one knows how any player is gonna perform until the season starts, look at Leicesters signings, complete unknowns cheap buys and won them the league.
Most high profile player, not best players. Jordan Ayew I think is our best player in terms of talent combined with how he fots into our side. There is no point in having great players if they dont fit into your side, surely you can see that?
Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:45 pm
BobbyBlue wrote:
No point having great players if they don't fit into your side he says![]()
read your above post just contradicted yourself a treat, nice1
Think before you type mate you won't make yourself look stupid then.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:47 pm
SnackaJack wrote:BobbyBlue wrote:
No point having great players if they don't fit into your side he says![]()
read your above post just contradicted yourself a treat, nice1
Think before you type mate you won't make yourself look stupid then.
Yep stand by it - read it again, I will highlight the important bit...
The players you highlighted are the best in the world, and as a result fit into any side. Gylfi is not belonging to this category, hence the sale.
Keep up at the back
Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:49 pm
Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:54 pm
SnackaJack wrote:I would call them great players that would fit into any side. The "great" isnt the important bit, its the bit that comes after which you are clearly ignoring![]()
So whatever level of player you class Sigurdsson and Llorente at, be that great, good, mediocre or the sublime - they are not at the standard to where they can fit in any side. And they dont really with us.... Hence the sale.
You will get it soon im sure
Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:57 pm
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:00 pm
SnackaJack wrote:Depending on the player of course, I don't class either Llorente or Sigurdson as great, id suggest if you do then maybe someone has laced your chicken with delusional tablets![]()
If the chicken dinner doesnt wuite fill the gab, remember that chip on your shoulder
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:01 pm
Plynlymonbluebird wrote:SnackaJack wrote:Depending on the player of course, I don't class either Llorente or Sigurdson as great, id suggest if you do then maybe someone has laced your chicken with delusional tablets![]()
If the chicken dinner doesnt wuite fill the gab, remember that chip on your shoulder
Stop getting so excited and agitated! I know we excite you so much but for an intellectual you are typing utter gibberish!
Clam down it's only the Internet!
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:01 pm
SnackaJack wrote:Depending on the player of course, I don't class either Llorente or Sigurdson as great, id suggest if you do then maybe someone has laced your chicken with delusional tablets![]()
If the chicken dinner doesnt wuite fill the gab, remember that chip on your shoulder
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:03 pm
BobbyBlue wrote:
I have not once mentioned Llorente or Gylfi as great players why you making stuff up? Your the one who mentioned the word great. This chickens dry need some salad cream.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:08 pm
SnackaJack wrote:BobbyBlue wrote:
I have not once mentioned Llorente or Gylfi as great players why you making stuff up? Your the one who mentioned the word great. This chickens dry need some salad cream.
Ah well perfect, we both agree they arent then and this whole last 5 minutes has been for nothing.
So then you can now understand the point that having them in our side regardless of their ability, is not helpful to the side if they dont fit with the style.
Not really tricky. Check the sell by of that chicken.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:11 pm
BobbyBlue wrote:
You said quote "There's no point having great players if they don't fit your style", why not ?
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:14 pm
SnackaJack wrote:BobbyBlue wrote:
You said quote "There's no point having great players if they don't fit your style", why not ?
I see you deleted your last post, strange you choose this to replace it with
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The comment is self explanitory. Because they womt fit in with the teams style. If the side is geared to hoofing the ball to a target man and getting crosses in, then you dont buy Zola.
The fact you have the money to buy Zola, suggests you are better going for someone equally as good but fits the style of the side as not to disrupt the cohesion.
Come on Bobby, you arent this dull. I have every faith in you.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:16 pm
BobbyBlue wrote:
I deleted it because I typed it out wrong couldn't remember what you said.
So you saying you wouldn't have Zlatan in his prime as he doesn't fit Swansea style
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:19 pm
SnackaJack wrote:BobbyBlue wrote:
I deleted it because I typed it out wrong couldn't remember what you said.
So you saying you wouldn't have Zlatan in his prime as he doesn't fit Swansea style
If we had money to buy Zlatan in his prime and the profile to attract him - yet it was clear he would not fit into the style of play, then I would choose someone equally as good that does... As any other sane person would do
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:21 pm
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:23 pm
SnackaJack wrote:No, instead of soending all our budget on a striker that wont fit into the side, I would wait until the summer and sign a superstar of equal ability that does... Again as any other normal person would.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:25 pm
BobbyBlue wrote:SnackaJack wrote:No, instead of soending all our budget on a striker that wont fit into the side, I would wait until the summer and sign a superstar of equal ability that does... Again as any other normal person would.
Free transfer, he hit the owner of Barcelona and they want him gone.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:34 pm
SnackaJack wrote:BobbyBlue wrote:SnackaJack wrote:No, instead of soending all our budget on a striker that wont fit into the side, I would wait until the summer and sign a superstar of equal ability that does... Again as any other normal person would.
Free transfer, he hit the owner of Barcelona and they want him gone.
Then under those almost impossible conditions - I would sign him to look to turn a profit, but in terms of plans for my playing side, he wouldnt last long as I would be getting that superstar of equal ability in the summer, that does fit into the side.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:36 pm
Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:35 pm
SnackaJack wrote:But I have already told you I would instead buy someone of equal quality - someone of equal quality that fits into the side.
Keep up, my word.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:36 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:SnackaJack wrote:But I have already told you I would instead buy someone of equal quality - someone of equal quality that fits into the side.
Keep up, my word.
Talking bollox again roathie. Why don't you go off and swim with a box jelly fish you weirdo
Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:55 pm
SnackaJack wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:SnackaJack wrote:But I have already told you I would instead buy someone of equal quality - someone of equal quality that fits into the side.
Keep up, my word.
Talking bollox again roathie. Why don't you go off and swim with a box jelly fish you weirdo
Are you feeling ok Gareth?
Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:07 pm
Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:08 pm
Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:11 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:Why do clubs sign or strive to sign better players?! They're only great depending on the size of your club.
For instance Whittingham was a great player for Cardiff.
Rooney was a great player for Man Utd
Shearer was a great player for Newcastle
If you took Messi out of Barca there is a very strong chance that he may actually not be that good - after all he may not have the service provided by his team mates to warrant a great title at all.
Your statement is flawed -
Sigs and Llorente are by FAR your best players, and as I personally wouldn't call Llorente great I'd call him more good, Sigs has certainly been great for the Jacks. The problem lies more with the fact your coach clearly cannot cope with the calibre of player he has at his disposal - he couldn't at Derby.
Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:18 pm
SnackaJack wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Why do clubs sign or strive to sign better players?! They're only great depending on the size of your club.
For instance Whittingham was a great player for Cardiff.
Rooney was a great player for Man Utd
Shearer was a great player for Newcastle
If you took Messi out of Barca there is a very strong chance that he may actually not be that good - after all he may not have the service provided by his team mates to warrant a great title at all.
Your statement is flawed -
Sigs and Llorente are by FAR your best players, and as I personally wouldn't call Llorente great I'd call him more good, Sigs has certainly been great for the Jacks. The problem lies more with the fact your coach clearly cannot cope with the calibre of player he has at his disposal - he couldn't at Derby.
Nothing flawed about it at all. They dont fit our system so will be sold. That simple, regardless of talent. With talent and fitting in our system combined, Ayew is by far our best player.
This coach that cant cope that you speak of delivered the best results any manager in our Premier League history has. That includes the manager who got us to finish 8th and the one that won us a major trophy and took us to the knock out stages of Europe
Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:21 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:
You need to put down your crack pipe....
Doesn't fit our system?!?! I've heard it all - Jordan Ayew was struggling to get a start at CHAMPIONSHIP side villa - seems as though he wasn't playing the right system!! Should have old Fat Steve!
Mate your barmy absolutely on the ledge