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Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:21 am

stevee1966 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
AfricanBluebird wrote:
Forethe Blue wrote:In my opinion they look a bunch of do gooders/idiots and they need to get a life

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http://www.ladbible.com/now/weird-millw ... 9339346649


Just because you may not agree with 'do gooders' doesn't mean they deserve a racist to spit in their faces and have racist abuse hurled at them.

I don't like trump and I don't like May but I would never deonobstrate against them... But if people choose to in a democracy that is their choice... And they should be allowed to do so without being intimidated and spat at

Fair dos to the to millwall fan for his bravery but it's astonishing that people will use his bravery to defend his unacceptable behaviour.


Where do I say I agree with what he said or did?


For me they do look like a bunch of idiots,I have No respect for them, and thats my freedom of speech :thumbright: :thumbright:


Whether you agree with their points of view, or have respect for them is irrelevant.

Is it ever justifiable to spit in someones face ?

I don't think so.


I never said it was, where did I? but this incident was before the saving of life's and risking his own life, don't you think he is a hero?

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:39 pm

Annis I don't think the gentleman is trying to say you support racist behaviour. I think the issue is, you started a thread reagrding a racist incident and then twice, rather than stating his actions and behaviour was wrong you spoke out against the protesters saying they look like do gooders and then posted that they hurled abuse at him and then he retaliated. And then defending him by saying the incident happened before he saved lives. As if that somehow is an acceptable of what he did, again you did not say it was acceptable but your argument comes across as its forgive able because of his actions during the terror attack. No one is arguing on this board what he did was heroic, as it was.

There seems to be an ignorance of racism everywhere where people rather than coming out and saying his is wrong or this is racist people start to defend the actions. Racism is wrong, it's disgusting and has no place in modern society.

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:52 pm

dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:One newspaper has done a pole and 53% say he's still a hero



ONLY 53%..so because he once spat in someones face it the wipes out his heroism.?.
he saved the lives of inocent pple ffs..47% need to sort their heads out as do a few on here.

he could spit on me all day long if he was prepared to stand between a machete wielding lunatic and my family.
yes spitting is disgusting. but come on.

So almost half of those polled think an old video of him spitting on some clown, who's never done a day's work in his life, negates his hero status, despite the fact he suffered multiple stab wounds saving numerous lives in London. Sometimes I feel like weeping for this country.

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:09 pm

Jock wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:One newspaper has done a pole and 53% say he's still a hero



ONLY 53%..so because he once spat in someones face it the wipes out his heroism.?.
he saved the lives of inocent pple ffs..47% need to sort their heads out as do a few on here.

he could spit on me all day long if he was prepared to stand between a machete wielding lunatic and my family.
yes spitting is disgusting. but come on.

So almost half of those polled think an old video of him spitting on some clown, who's never done a day's work in his life, negates his hero status, despite the fact he suffered multiple stab wounds saving numerous lives in London. Sometimes I feel like weeping for this country.


Correct :thumbright:

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:12 pm

bluebird04 wrote:Annis I don't think the gentleman is trying to say you support racist behaviour. I think the issue is, you started a thread reagrding a racist incident and then twice, rather than stating his actions and behaviour was wrong you spoke out against the protesters saying they look like do gooders and then posted that they hurled abuse at him and then he retaliated. And then defending him by saying the incident happened before he saved lives. As if that somehow is an acceptable of what he did, again you did not say it was acceptable but your argument comes across as its forgive able because of his actions during the terror attack. No one is arguing on this board what he did was heroic, as it was.

There seems to be an ignorance of racism everywhere where people rather than coming out and saying his is wrong or this is racist people start to defend the actions. Racism is wrong, it's disgusting and has no place in modern society.



I don't agree with Racism one bit and never will, I can't as I am very proud My Father was Egyptian :thumbright:

But what I will say is, they are bringing up old dirt on a man who put other persons life's before his and that's how the UK works, bring down a real hero no matter what, it stinks.

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:13 pm

bluebird04 wrote:Annis I don't think the gentleman is trying to say you support racist behaviour. I think the issue is, you started a thread reagrding a racist incident and then twice, rather than stating his actions and behaviour was wrong you spoke out against the protesters saying they look like do gooders and then posted that they hurled abuse at him and then he retaliated. And then defending him by saying the incident happened before he saved lives. As if that somehow is an acceptable of what he did, again you did not say it was acceptable but your argument comes across as its forgive able because of his actions during the terror attack. No one is arguing on this board what he did was heroic, as it was.

There seems to be an ignorance of racism everywhere where people rather than coming out and saying his is wrong or this is racist people start to defend the actions. Racism is wrong, it's disgusting and has no place in modern society.


of course his behaviour was wrong..but there were 2 guys with stills cameras and a video ffs. a small group on a protest for..what ever......or a bunch of people on a wind up ready to film reactions to what ever they were saying.?
i wonder if it had been your family in that restaurant/bar youd be so determined to slaughter him.and back these pretty crystal clear trouble makers.
me thinks not..

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:09 am

dogfound wrote:
bluebird04 wrote:Annis I don't think the gentleman is trying to say you support racist behaviour. I think the issue is, you started a thread reagrding a racist incident and then twice, rather than stating his actions and behaviour was wrong you spoke out against the protesters saying they look like do gooders and then posted that they hurled abuse at him and then he retaliated. And then defending him by saying the incident happened before he saved lives. As if that somehow is an acceptable of what he did, again you did not say it was acceptable but your argument comes across as its forgive able because of his actions during the terror attack. No one is arguing on this board what he did was heroic, as it was.

There seems to be an ignorance of racism everywhere where people rather than coming out and saying his is wrong or this is racist people start to defend the actions. Racism is wrong, it's disgusting and has no place in modern society.


of course his behaviour was wrong..but there were 2 guys with stills cameras and a video ffs. a small group on a protest for..what ever......or a bunch of people on a wind up ready to film reactions to what ever they were saying.?
i wonder if it had been your family in that restaurant/bar youd be so determined to slaughter him.and back these pretty crystal clear trouble makers.
me thinks not..


Not being funny or trying to sound cocky but I have no idea what you are saying in the first two lines. Not sure what you been reading, but I haven't slaughtered the man, and I didn't back any trouble makers, just saying there is no justification for racist behaviour.

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:24 am

No place for racism but there is also the old adage walk in my shoes, he can't get work, can't get a flat via council and is sleeping on a mate's sofa and he sees what he would term "foreigners" come to London receiving benefits of sort including housing, even a Muslim housing association exists in his neck of the woods. Undoubtedly he is angry.

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:32 am

Interestring

How do they get away with all this?

http://freedomsfinalstand.com/muslim-on ... ect-islam/

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:44 am

Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird04 wrote:Annis I don't think the gentleman is trying to say you support racist behaviour. I think the issue is, you started a thread reagrding a racist incident and then twice, rather than stating his actions and behaviour was wrong you spoke out against the protesters saying they look like do gooders and then posted that they hurled abuse at him and then he retaliated. And then defending him by saying the incident happened before he saved lives. As if that somehow is an acceptable of what he did, again you did not say it was acceptable but your argument comes across as its forgive able because of his actions during the terror attack. No one is arguing on this board what he did was heroic, as it was.

There seems to be an ignorance of racism everywhere where people rather than coming out and saying his is wrong or this is racist people start to defend the actions. Racism is wrong, it's disgusting and has no place in modern society.



I don't agree with Racism one bit and never will, I can't as I am very proud My Father was Egyptian :thumbright:

But what I will say is, they are bringing up old dirt on a man who put other persons life's before his and that's how the UK works, bring down a real hero no matter what, it stinks.


The funny thing is, half the people you agree with on this board would've had your dad deported :laughing5:

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:06 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bluebird04 wrote:Annis I don't think the gentleman is trying to say you support racist behaviour. I think the issue is, you started a thread reagrding a racist incident and then twice, rather than stating his actions and behaviour was wrong you spoke out against the protesters saying they look like do gooders and then posted that they hurled abuse at him and then he retaliated. And then defending him by saying the incident happened before he saved lives. As if that somehow is an acceptable of what he did, again you did not say it was acceptable but your argument comes across as its forgive able because of his actions during the terror attack. No one is arguing on this board what he did was heroic, as it was.

There seems to be an ignorance of racism everywhere where people rather than coming out and saying his is wrong or this is racist people start to defend the actions. Racism is wrong, it's disgusting and has no place in modern society.



I don't agree with Racism one bit and never will, I can't as I am very proud My Father was Egyptian :thumbright:

But what I will say is, they are bringing up old dirt on a man who put other persons life's before his and that's how the UK works, bring down a real hero no matter what, it stinks.


The funny thing is, half the people you agree with on this board would've had your dad deported :laughing5:

The funny thing is you branding people racist to prove your point, it's had its day, it no longer works but it's still your default position. Show me one post to back up your idiotic claim.

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Interestring

How do they get away with all this?

http://freedomsfinalstand.com/muslim-on ... ect-islam/


Annis.

Firstly , no-one has "got away" with anything. The man who made these horrific comments , which were made on Norwegian TV well over a year ago, was arrested for making them, and rightly so.

Secondly , you have lifted this report from a website called Freedom`s Final Stand. This is an extreme right wing racist site in the U.S which has a go at anyone who is not white American , not just Muslims. They hate anything black , Hispanic etc. as well. Read their website - it is horrendous.

Keith

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:00 pm

ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interestring

How do they get away with all this?

http://freedomsfinalstand.com/muslim-on ... ect-islam/


Annis.

Firstly , no-one has "got away" with anything. The man who made these horrific comments , which were made on Norwegian TV well over a year ago, was arrested for making them, and rightly so.

Secondly , you have lifted this report from a website called Freedom`s Final Stand. This is an extreme right wing racist site in the U.S which has a go at anyone who is not white American , not just Muslims. They hate anything black , Hispanic etc. as well. Read their website - it is horrendous.

Keith


Keith, it just came up on fb.

But many have got away with it over the years standing in Luton and London slating our British laws and armed forces a fact .

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interestring

How do they get away with all this?

http://freedomsfinalstand.com/muslim-on ... ect-islam/


Annis.

Firstly , no-one has "got away" with anything. The man who made these horrific comments , which were made on Norwegian TV well over a year ago, was arrested for making them, and rightly so.

Secondly , you have lifted this report from a website called Freedom`s Final Stand. This is an extreme right wing racist site in the U.S which has a go at anyone who is not white American , not just Muslims. They hate anything black , Hispanic etc. as well. Read their website - it is horrendous.

Keith


Keith, it just came up on fb.

But many have got away with it over the years standing in Luton and London slating our British laws and armed forces a fact .


Your first post made no reference to the fact that you were just copying someone else's Facebook post, but just gave a direct link to the FFS website. That is why I was surprised/ shocked that you appeared to be directly linking yourself to such racist views. Maybe you should fully and properly read the pages you link to before posting them as I most definitely don't believe you share such openly racist views.

Keith

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:13 pm

ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interestring

How do they get away with all this?

http://freedomsfinalstand.com/muslim-on ... ect-islam/


Annis.

Firstly , no-one has "got away" with anything. The man who made these horrific comments , which were made on Norwegian TV well over a year ago, was arrested for making them, and rightly so.

Secondly , you have lifted this report from a website called Freedom`s Final Stand. This is an extreme right wing racist site in the U.S which has a go at anyone who is not white American , not just Muslims. They hate anything black , Hispanic etc. as well. Read their website - it is horrendous.

Keith


Keith, it just came up on fb.

But many have got away with it over the years standing in Luton and London slating our British laws and armed forces a fact .


Your first post made no reference to the fact that you were just copying someone else's Facebook post, but just gave a direct link to the FFS website. That is why I was surprised/ shocked that you appeared to be directly linking yourself to such racist views. Maybe you should fully and properly read the pages you link to before posting them as I most definitely don't believe you share such openly racist views.

Keith


Fair enough :thumbright: But which ever way you try to look at it,they do get away with banners and screaming insults at British law and its totally wrong agreed?

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Interestring

How do they get away with all this?

http://freedomsfinalstand.com/muslim-on ... ect-islam/


Annis.

Firstly , no-one has "got away" with anything. The man who made these horrific comments , which were made on Norwegian TV well over a year ago, was arrested for making them, and rightly so.

Secondly , you have lifted this report from a website called Freedom`s Final Stand. This is an extreme right wing racist site in the U.S which has a go at anyone who is not white American , not just Muslims. They hate anything black , Hispanic etc. as well. Read their website - it is horrendous.

Keith


Keith, it just came up on fb.

But many have got away with it over the years standing in Luton and London slating our British laws and armed forces a fact .


Your first post made no reference to the fact that you were just copying someone else's Facebook post, but just gave a direct link to the FFS website. That is why I was surprised/ shocked that you appeared to be directly linking yourself to such racist views. Maybe you should fully and properly read the pages you link to before posting them as I most definitely don't believe you share such openly racist views.

Keith


Fair enough :thumbright: But which ever way you try to look at it,they do get away with banners and screaming insults at British law and its totally wrong agreed?


I do agree that hate preachers and certain protesters get off too lightly and wish that tougher measures were taken against them.
However the man that was the subject of your post didn't get away with anything- he was arrested within a couple of days of makeup no his comments were on t.v.

Re: Millwall Fan Hailed A 'Hero'Spits At Man During Racist R

Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:52 pm

The group he clashed with were protesting against brexit and Trump. Who do these pricks think they are protesting against democracy?