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Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:43 pm

"For me now, it is time for a new challenge. I'm not one of those footballers who can train all week and sit and watch a match. I want to play as many games as possible - and I think at this stage of my career this move will help me to do so."

If he stayed, it would have been for the money, not for the football.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:54 pm

Of course it was for the money, Im not sure why people have a problem with that, I would think that 99% of transfers are due to money. Its the same with Harris of course he wants to earn as much as possible and is considering all his options I would do exactly the same.

Loved Whitts and wish him well but it was time to go in the best interest of the club and him.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:54 pm

Of course it was for the money, Im not sure why people have a problem with that, I would think that 99% of transfers are due to money. Its the same with Harris of course he wants to earn as much as possible and is considering all his options I would do exactly the same.

Loved Whitts and wish him well but it was time to go in the best interest of the club and him.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:54 pm

Of course it was for the money, Im not sure why people have a problem with that, I would think that 99% of transfers are due to money. Its the same with Harris of course he wants to earn as much as possible and is considering all his options I would do exactly the same.

Loved Whitts and wish him well but it was time to go in the best interest of the club and him.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:54 pm

Of course it was for the money, Im not sure why people have a problem with that, I would think that 99% of transfers are due to money. Its the same with Harris of course he wants to earn as much as possible and is considering all his options I would do exactly the same.

Loved Whitts and wish him well but it was time to go in the best interest of the club and him.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:06 pm

I think it was contract length myself.

Warnock basically said he only offered him a year.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:09 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Are you for real, the bloke wants to PLAY FOOTBALL.This is a pathetic post.

in your oppinion but not mine
truth hurts eh!



top top bloke according to those who have met you.
and a very very good Cardiff fan too.
but boy you have let yourself down over this anti Peter Whittingham agenda.


All about opinions
I just don't get this legend / loyal shit that' whitts is all about alledgedly
A multi millionaire thanks to Cardiff city who could have been a legend if he'd stayed and gave something back via our youth
And maybe become the go to player off the bench to help us back to the premier league
I've not let myself down over whitts as I will back up my oppinion all day long
Nice to know I'm ac top bloke to those that know me
But more importantly I'm thought of as a very good city fan

Tend to agree with you kid..iv e been with my company for over 10 years , and if anyone called me a legend it must be behind my back .....but if I was shite at my job guess what ?.....marching orders :bluebird: ...

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:17 pm

Given my photography connections, I am fortunate enough to know the club photographers at Blackburn and can say, pretty much from the horse's mouth, that Whitts did not move to Blackburn for the money.

From what I understand he was willing to drop a division purely so that he could be guaranteed first team football week in week out - and the attraction of a promotion push was also there.

The guy just simply wants to play - rather than picking up a pay cheque for sitting on the bench

For me, that says a lot about him as a professional - but I guess most of us already knew that.

Well done Whitts - and all the best - Will see you during the season no doubt!

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:54 pm

I want to know how Troobloo actually knows exactly what Whitts earned? Do you know him or someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information? If like I suspect, you are just guessing then it's all pie in the sky what you're saying. You just had something against Whitts for some god forsaken reason and refuse to see anyone else's point of view on the matter.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:37 pm

norms76 wrote:I want to know how Troobloo actually knows exactly what Whitts earned? Do you know him or someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information? If like I suspect, you are just guessing then it's all pie in the sky what you're saying. You just had something against Whitts for some god forsaken reason and refuse to see anyone else's point of view on the matter.

Norms
1 other people's views are totally respected by me ,where have I refused to do that
2 it's not just me saying his earnings were such ,it's been all over this board on many occasions quoted by many good posters on here
3 are you saying he has not earned millions from Cardiff city if you are maybe you could enlighten us to how much he has earned
4 annis just recently posted that we will now save £100k a month wages we were paying him ( maybe you could check if annis is guessing or if he knows someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information
5 I've not just had something against whitts at all its my oppinion he was overrated

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:42 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
norms76 wrote:I want to know how Troobloo actually knows exactly what Whitts earned? Do you know him or someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information? If like I suspect, you are just guessing then it's all pie in the sky what you're saying. You just had something against Whitts for some god forsaken reason and refuse to see anyone else's point of view on the matter.

Norms
1 other people's views are totally respected by me ,where have I refused to do that
2 it's not just me saying his earnings were such ,it's been all over this board on many occasions quoted by many good posters on here
3 are you saying he has not earned millions from Cardiff city if you are maybe you could enlighten us to how much he has earned
4 annis just recently posted that we will now save £100k a month wages we were paying him ( maybe you could check if annis is guessing or if he knows someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information
5 I've not just had something against whitts at all its my oppinion he was overrated


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40267268

Three Warnock quotes:
"He just wants to play"
"His agent said to me it was similar terms to what we offered him"
"A lot of people don't even think about playing and they just go for money, but that's not Peter."

As for Annis, there are no leaks any more. Carl's exclusives have dried up to the extent we're told we'll sign 2 players in a fortnight. Well I never.

He's gone to play football and good luck for him. He was probably well paid to do his job but he did it better than most have in a blue shirt.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:45 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
norms76 wrote:I want to know how Troobloo actually knows exactly what Whitts earned? Do you know him or someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information? If like I suspect, you are just guessing then it's all pie in the sky what you're saying. You just had something against Whitts for some god forsaken reason and refuse to see anyone else's point of view on the matter.

Norms
1 other people's views are totally respected by me ,where have I refused to do that
2 it's not just me saying his earnings were such ,it's been all over this board on many occasions quoted by many good posters on here
3 are you saying he has not earned millions from Cardiff city if you are maybe you could enlighten us to how much he has earned
4 annis just recently posted that we will now save £100k a month wages we were paying him ( maybe you could check if annis is guessing or if he knows someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information
5 I've not just had something against whitts at all its my oppinion he was overrated

I most certainly don't know how much ANY player earns & I bet not one person on here knows either unless they are privy to CCFC players payroll accounts. That's my point, you're crying about he's earned millions but nobody 100% knows EXACTLY how much. You can speculate, but you'll never know for sure.

Whitts has been a fantastic servant to our club & players staying at one club for 10 plus years are few & far between. You should just wish him well like so many posters on here have. It's your choice to slag him off of course, but I'll feel you'll be hard pushed to find many CCFC fans that'll agree with you.

Maybe you'll look back in a few years time & realise just how good PW7 was.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:02 pm

So it wasn't about the money then. :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=185369

PETER WHITTINGHAM 'JUST WANTS TO PLAY' SAYS CARDIFF CITY BOSS NEIL WARNOCK


Wednesday 14th June 2017



Manager Neil Warnock has said Cardiff City could not guarantee regular football to midfielder Peter Whittingham.

Whittingham, 32, has joined League One Blackburn after a decade at Cardiff.

"He wants to play and he's got a two-year contract offered to him, and you've got to take your hat off to that," Warnock said.

"I think he's realised he's not going to be instrumental in playing every week here."

The Cardiff boss also said he hopes to sign two players within the week but says Aberdeen's Jonny Hayes is unlikely to join.

Whittingham, who made 450 appearances following his arrival from Aston Villa in January 2007, was offered reduced terms by the Bluebirds.

But Warnock denied financial reasons where behind the former England Under-21 international's decision to drop down a division and join Rovers on a two-year deal.

"His agent said to me it was similar terms to what we offered him," Warnock told BBC Wales Sport.


"I think Peter could have played a part next year but I don't think we could, at this stage, offer him a two-year deal.

"You could see last year how frustrated he was at not being able to play and not being in that starting 11.

"Probably going down a division gives him more opportunity as well to play and you've just got to accept he's at the stage of his career where you do want to play.

"A lot of people don't even think about playing and they just go for money, but that's not Peter.

"Peter just wants to play and you've got to take your hat off to him. Good luck to him, sometimes you need a little challenge later on in your career."

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:10 pm

norms76 wrote:So it wasn't about the money then. :lol:

http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic ... 2&t=185369

PETER WHITTINGHAM 'JUST WANTS TO PLAY' SAYS CARDIFF CITY BOSS NEIL WARNOCK


Wednesday 14th June 2017



Manager Neil Warnock has said Cardiff City could not guarantee regular football to midfielder Peter Whittingham.

Whittingham, 32, has joined League One Blackburn after a decade at Cardiff.

"He wants to play and he's got a two-year contract offered to him, and you've got to take your hat off to that," Warnock said.

"I think he's realised he's not going to be instrumental in playing every week here."

The Cardiff boss also said he hopes to sign two players within the week but says Aberdeen's Jonny Hayes is unlikely to join.

Whittingham, who made 450 appearances following his arrival from Aston Villa in January 2007, was offered reduced terms by the Bluebirds.

But Warnock denied financial reasons where behind the former England Under-21 international's decision to drop down a division and join Rovers on a two-year deal.

"His agent said to me it was similar terms to what we offered him," Warnock told BBC Wales Sport.


"I think Peter could have played a part next year but I don't think we could, at this stage, offer him a two-year deal.

"You could see last year how frustrated he was at not being able to play and not being in that starting 11.

"Probably going down a division gives him more opportunity as well to play and you've just got to accept he's at the stage of his career where you do want to play.

"A lot of people don't even think about playing and they just go for money, but that's not Peter.

"Peter just wants to play and you've got to take your hat off to him. Good luck to him, sometimes you need a little challenge later on in your career."


Exactly and that's why he's been called the Forum Fool by many.
His dislike of Whitts; while fans from all over, pundits, managers and players rave about him; knows no end. Constant criticism and a blindness not just to Whittingham but football in general shows the fool to be just that.

I'm not a friend of his but I know him and he just wants regular football end of.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:29 pm

I am sorry but dropping from club like us that pays the wages we have done to League One and claim it was for money is talking absolute bo**ock.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:20 pm

I am absolutely gutted for Troobloo that Whitts has left us, he was his only topic of discussion and even then he got it woefully wrong.

Standing ovation from me whenever he comes back to the CCS.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:29 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I am absolutely gutted for Troobloo that Whitts has left us, he was his only topic of discussion and even then he got it woefully wrong.

Standing ovation from me whenever he comes back to the CCS.


And you my friend have a severe dose of selected memory
I post many varied threads on all Cardiff city topics
But will allways back my opinions
I don't run with sheep on here
Like many
Personally I don't believe legends can be created in modern day football as IMO players today are only loyal as long as their being paid highly
Legends in the past still needed to work after retiring from football
Today we have teenage millionaire footballers ffs

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:28 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I am absolutely gutted for Troobloo that Whitts has left us, he was his only topic of discussion and even then he got it woefully wrong.

Standing ovation from me whenever he comes back to the CCS.


And you my friend have a severe dose of selected memory
I post many varied threads on all Cardiff city topics
But will allways back my opinions
I don't run with sheep on here
Like many
Personally I don't believe legends can be created in modern day football as IMO players today are only loyal as long as their being paid highly
Legends in the past still needed to work after retiring from football
Today we have teenage millionaire footballers ffs


More shit being spewed!
So you can't be a legend in football terms if you are being highly paid?
I suppose the Liverpool and Man Utd fans will have to have a serious rethink because of your statement.
That puts paid to players like Gerrard, Giggs, Scholes etc.
I guess Messi is not a legend with either?

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:51 am

Ba,a,a,a,a,aa,a,aBa,bababababababababababababababab

Wot this sheep finks :laughing5:

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:10 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I am absolutely gutted for Troobloo that Whitts has left us, he was his only topic of discussion and even then he got it woefully wrong.

Standing ovation from me whenever he comes back to the CCS.


And you my friend have a severe dose of selected memory
I post many varied threads on all Cardiff city topics
But will allways back my opinions
I don't run with sheep on here
Like many
Personally I don't believe legends can be created in modern day football as IMO players today are only loyal as long as their being paid highly
Legends in the past still needed to work after retiring from football
Today we have teenage millionaire footballers ffs


More shit being spewed!
So you can't be a legend in football terms if you are being highly paid?
I suppose the Liverpool and Man Utd fans will have to have a serious rethink because of your statement.
That puts paid to players like Gerrard, Giggs, Scholes etc.
I guess Messi is not a legend with either?


Are you trying to compare whitts to those four or are you using them in general
3 one club premier league international capped players
And I'm the one spewing shit
It's my oppinion get over it
It's different to yours
I don't be little your opinions

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:18 am

Warnock has said himself that he can't Garentee him games so why would he want to sit on the bench when he can get Garenteed football and a better contract elsewhere.

How you can even question his loyalty just shows what an idiot you are.

First your a red lover now this.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:20 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I am absolutely gutted for Troobloo that Whitts has left us, he was his only topic of discussion and even then he got it woefully wrong.

Standing ovation from me whenever he comes back to the CCS.


And you my friend have a severe dose of selected memory
I post many varied threads on all Cardiff city topics
But will allways back my opinions
I don't run with sheep on here
Like many
Personally I don't believe legends can be created in modern day football as IMO players today are only loyal as long as their being paid highly
Legends in the past still needed to work after retiring from football
Today we have teenage millionaire footballers ffs


More shit being spewed!
So you can't be a legend in football terms if you are being highly paid?
I suppose the Liverpool and Man Utd fans will have to have a serious rethink because of your statement.
That puts paid to players like Gerrard, Giggs, Scholes etc.
I guess Messi is not a legend with either?


Are you trying to compare whitts to those four or are you using them in general
3 one club premier league international capped players
And I'm the one spewing shit
It's my oppinion get over it
It's different to yours
I don't be little your opinions



No you just belittle club legend because you're clueless.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:48 am

norms76 wrote:So it wasn't about the money then. :lol:

http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic ... 2&t=185369

PETER WHITTINGHAM 'JUST WANTS TO PLAY' SAYS CARDIFF CITY BOSS NEIL WARNOCK


Wednesday 14th June 2017



Manager Neil Warnock has said Cardiff City could not guarantee regular football to midfielder Peter Whittingham.

Whittingham, 32, has joined League One Blackburn after a decade at Cardiff.

"He wants to play and he's got a two-year contract offered to him, and you've got to take your hat off to that," Warnock said.

"I think he's realised he's not going to be instrumental in playing every week here."

The Cardiff boss also said he hopes to sign two players within the week but says Aberdeen's Jonny Hayes is unlikely to join.

Whittingham, who made 450 appearances following his arrival from Aston Villa in January 2007, was offered reduced terms by the Bluebirds.

But Warnock denied financial reasons where behind the former England Under-21 international's decision to drop down a division and join Rovers on a two-year deal.

"His agent said to me it was similar terms to what we offered him," Warnock told BBC Wales Sport.


"I think Peter could have played a part next year but I don't think we could, at this stage, offer him a two-year deal.

"You could see last year how frustrated he was at not being able to play and not being in that starting 11.

"Probably going down a division gives him more opportunity as well to play and you've just got to accept he's at the stage of his career where you do want to play.

"A lot of people don't even think about playing and they just go for money, but that's not Peter.

"Peter just wants to play and you've got to take your hat off to him. Good luck to him, sometimes you need a little challenge later on in your career."




The forum fool proved wrong yet again

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:15 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
norms76 wrote:I want to know how Troobloo actually knows exactly what Whitts earned? Do you know him or someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information? If like I suspect, you are just guessing then it's all pie in the sky what you're saying. You just had something against Whitts for some god forsaken reason and refuse to see anyone else's point of view on the matter.

Norms
1 other people's views are totally respected by me ,where have I refused to do that
2 it's not just me saying his earnings were such ,it's been all over this board on many occasions quoted by many good posters on here
3 are you saying he has not earned millions from Cardiff city if you are maybe you could enlighten us to how much he has earned
4 annis just recently posted that we will now save £100k a month wages we were paying him ( maybe you could check if annis is guessing or if he knows someone at the club who is privy to that kind of information
5 I've not just had something against whitts at all its my oppinion he was overrated



the wages might seem astromomical to the man in the street, but thats how football is and if you want to watch guys on twenty quid a week playing..well the CCS aint the place.
try to compare value for money..what value did our club get out of Amos, Huws,Lambert last season..? and you can stretch these type comparisons right through Whittinghams 10 years. yet its Whitts you have this huge agenda over..and saying just overated doesnt cut it mate...its thread after thread and post after post..

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:59 pm

So the original over cofident statement that it was about the money was wrong. Just a slur on a player's character. A player that has never bad mouthed the club ever, never complained when dropped, never complained when played out of position and always gave whatever he had to give. I think troobloo owes Peter Whittingham an apology, though I'm not expecting him to give one. Key board warrior stuff at its worst

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:30 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I am absolutely gutted for Troobloo that Whitts has left us, he was his only topic of discussion and even then he got it woefully wrong.

Standing ovation from me whenever he comes back to the CCS.


And you my friend have a severe dose of selected memory
I post many varied threads on all Cardiff city topics
But will allways back my opinions
I don't run with sheep on here
Like many
Personally I don't believe legends can be created in modern day football as IMO players today are only loyal as long as their being paid highly
Legends in the past still needed to work after retiring from football
Today we have teenage millionaire footballers ffs


More shit being spewed!
So you can't be a legend in football terms if you are being highly paid?
I suppose the Liverpool and Man Utd fans will have to have a serious rethink because of your statement.
That puts paid to players like Gerrard, Giggs, Scholes etc.
I guess Messi is not a legend with either?


Are you trying to compare whitts to those four or are you using them in general
3 one club premier league international capped players
And I'm the one spewing shit
It's my oppinion get over it
It's different to yours
I don't be little your opinions


Of course I'm not comparing those 3 footballers with Whitts. Only a fool would ask that question.
You said - you don't believe there can be legends in modern day football. I've given you 3 examples. Ask the fans of those 3 'modern day' players if they are legends.
You're so naive it's unbelievable.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:33 pm

JayCee wrote:So the original over cofident statement that it was about the money was wrong. Just a slur on a player's character. A player that has never bad mouthed the club ever, never complained when dropped, never complained when played out of position and always gave whatever he had to give. I think troobloo owes Peter Whittingham an apology, though I'm not expecting him to give one. Key board warrior stuff at its worst


Mate, there's no getting through to him, that's why he was given the nickname. Thick as shit.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:56 pm

Trooblue doesn't run with sheep on here but also always has a tendency to have an opinion the complete opposite of the majority of city fans, he does this so he seems different and thinks it makes him look more knowledgeable about football.

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:58 pm

Hahaha thick as shit
How, many hits did . I reel in
The, thick shits . Are . Those that bit
As usual I might add
Cant wait to seewhi our managerbrings . In to replace him :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :sleepy2:

Re: so in the end it came down to money !

Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:41 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
gagsey wrote:What a cock. Just look at the appreciation thread mate. You obviously have no idea about the beautiful game.


Your repeating yourself
All about opinions mate
I happen to agree with Warnock whitts is done at our level over 46 games
I also agree with Warnock that whitts still had something to offer hence him being offered a 1 year contract that he turned down
To move down a level on a 2 year contract
Sad really that he couldn't stay and fight for his place and then retire as a Cardiff city player bit like legends from the past did



id love an answer to these.......bit like legends of the past did.. who exactly are you talking about?
and....what criteria do you think qualifies aplayer to be a legend at our club..