PRIME MINISTER: HISTORIC NIGHT! " A HUNG PARLIMENT "

The Tories fought well in Scotland - banging on about a second independence referendum
that the Scots have no appetite for.

with all the shite going on around the world, better together most people in UK think.

If it weren't for Scotland - Misses May would be gone now
She has actually lost her election

Now the Tories have to work with a powder keg that is Northern Ireland politics.


oh dear oh dear

More like the Tories got lucky in Scotland as the SNP and Labour split the left vote to allow them in.

However, that's politics and we will have to wait for the next election to see if it is a real revival in Scotland.

In the meantime the coalition of carnage is on the table with their terrible alliance with the DUP.

Chuka Umunna , what a horrible, loud- mouthed , disrespectful excuse of a human being.

sorry to sit on the fence with this

ps. Paul Flynn what a disgusting thing to tweet last night after all the deaths we have seen lately.

Any different to the way the Tories have been horrible, loud-mouthed and disrespectful to every Labour candidate? Of course not. Where have I mentioned this ?

May lost tonight. What an embarrassment she is. She had staged managed the entire thing and still ballsed it up to an opposition that couldn't win. Nothing to do with my post !!

This is her legacy, the worst politician of recent history.

I'm not arguing ?

Something changed during this Election Campaign as I have no doubt that at the time TM called this election the 20%+ lead the Conservatives held over Labour was real.

TM decided to go with an ultra negative campaign targeting Jeremy Corbyn, Diane Abbott and John McDonnell and the likely effect they would have on the Bretix talks, a big mistake in my opinion, as JC was going with a positive campaign only talking about policies and more importantly hope. TM then went for a double whammy with a poorly thought out manifesto containing vote losing policies like the "Dementia Tax" and turning every which way when she realised how damaging that would be. The final nail, or the triple whammy, was her record as Home Secretary in cutting Police numbers, failing to control the movement of Islamic Extremists and being seen by many as having blood on her hands. Her answer was to blame MI5 and the Police whilst claiming she had done everything possible to contain the risks.

We have been left with chaos as the Conservative Party is still deeply divided over Brexit and I believe she will find it impossible to carry all her MP'S with her, whatever deal she negotiates. That is IF the Tory Party allows her to remain as Leader, get your money on Batty Boris being PM by October a good bet in my opinion.

I can see a situation where this new "Progressive Alliance" will defeat her on almost any legislation she places before Parliament and that will have only one outcome - another General Election probably before the end of the year.

Something changed during this Election Campaign as I have no doubt that at the time TM called this election the 20%+ lead the Conservatives held over Labour was real.

TM decided to go with an ultra negative campaign targeting Jeremy Corbyn, Diane Abbott and John McDonnell and the likely effect they would have on the Bretix talks, a big mistake in my opinion, as JC was going with a positive campaign only talking about policies and more importantly hope. TM then went for a double whammy with a poorly thought out manifesto containing vote losing policies like the "Dementia Tax" and turning every which way when she realised how damaging that would be. The final nail, or the triple whammy, was her record as Home Secretary in cutting Police numbers, failing to control the movement of Islamic Extremists and being seen by many as having blood on her hands. Her answer was to blame MI5 and the Police whilst claiming she had done everything possible to contain the risks.

We have been left with chaos as the Conservative Party is still deeply divided over Brexit and I believe she will find it impossible to carry all her MP'S with her, whatever deal she negotiates. That is IF the Tory Party allows her to remain as Leader, get your money on Batty Boris being PM by October a good bet in my opinion.

I can see a situation where this new "Progressive Alliance" will defeat her on almost any legislation she places before Parliament and that will have only one outcome - another General Election probably before the end of the year.

TM certainly has a hell of a job on her hands. She'll get by for a few months with the support of the DUP but as it's not a formal coalition at some point self interest will kick in and they will abandon her. As you pointed she also needs to survive the treacherous backstabbing in the Tory Party.

I'll give her a year at the most but there is a bonus as the longer she stays in No. 10 the more damage she will do to the Tory Party.

Something changed during this Election Campaign as I have no doubt that at the time TM called this election the 20%+ lead the Conservatives held over Labour was real.

TM decided to go with an ultra negative campaign targeting Jeremy Corbyn, Diane Abbott and John McDonnell and the likely effect they would have on the Bretix talks, a big mistake in my opinion, as JC was going with a positive campaign only talking about policies and more importantly hope. TM then went for a double whammy with a poorly thought out manifesto containing vote losing policies like the "Dementia Tax" and turning every which way when she realised how damaging that would be. The final nail, or the triple whammy, was her record as Home Secretary in cutting Police numbers, failing to control the movement of Islamic Extremists and being seen by many as having blood on her hands. Her answer was to blame MI5 and the Police whilst claiming she had done everything possible to contain the risks.

We have been left with chaos as the Conservative Party is still deeply divided over Brexit and I believe she will find it impossible to carry all her MP'S with her, whatever deal she negotiates. That is IF the Tory Party allows her to remain as Leader, get your money on Batty Boris being PM by October a good bet in my opinion.

I can see a situation where this new "Progressive Alliance" will defeat her on almost any legislation she places before Parliament and that will have only one outcome - another General Election probably before the end of the year.

TM certainly has a hell of a job on her hands. She'll get by for a few months with the support of the DUP but as it's not a formal coalition at some point self interest will kick in and they will abandon her. As you pointed she also needs to survive the treacherous backstabbing in the Tory Party.

I'll give her a year at the most but there is a bonus as the longer she stays in No. 10 the more damage she will do to the Tory Party.

She'll be gone after the first round of Brexit negotiations.

She'll be laughed out of the room given she has zero bargaining power - No majority.

So the Tories end an election campaign which they spent attacking Corbyn for his alleged links to former Northern Irish terrorists by going into coalition with a party founded by former Northern Irish terrorists

The hypocrisy is astonishing.

I'm sure Labour would do the same given the chance.

Modern day politics stink.

Stayed up all night and in my opinion a hung parliment is not good for our country.


There's No real winner.

Theresa May let her party down and the country that's my opinion and she should take all the blame, end of politics now for me.

Theresa May faces the humiliation of ending with fewer seats than when she called the election.

The Tories are projected to finally get 318 seats so will still be the largest party, Labour 265 and the SNP 34.





Back to football

Annis, I did too and was both fascinated and surprised by what occurred but I guess in light of recent voting patterns (Brexit in the UK and Trump in the USA) maybe we shouldn't have been

Some excellent responses/comments on this thread and it seems that this result is almost universally seen as negative for the UK as a whole; both economically and also relating to Brexit talks

It seems Theresa May has messed up big-time by engaging (some will say indulging) in an almost US Presidential-style of electioneering before following that up with her ill-projected 'Social Care' plans which will greatly affect those who have worked hard in life to save for their families futures only to see it taken away almost 'at a whim' when the very people they target (the elderly with Dementia) will have already paid out in readiness all of their lives through National Insurance contributions and other taxes!

I took this section of some comments made elsewhere...


What a mess. Just like her predecesssor did almost a year ago to the day, she gambled irresponsibly...and it's bit her, and the country, on the backside.

Now the UK, already awash with uncertainty with Brexit looming and the sharp rise in domestic terrorist incidents, is faced with a hung parliament. Just when it needs clear leadership the most, it gets none.

Brilliant.

Up stood Mrs. May last night, realising she'd shot herself, her party and the country firmly in the foot, to say, remarkably, "This country needs a period of stability". Ah, that must be why you called a completely unnecessary General Election when you already had the mandate and majority to lead in office for another two years then, is it?

Seriously, you couldn't make this up. Two over-bullish, over-confident and flatly irresponsible Conservative Prime Ministers in succession putting their careers, and power, ahead of the country's needs in the space of 12 months.

Still, that's the incompetence of modern day politics and politicians for you and this country could have ended up with Corbyn at the helm, hell bent on limiting our earning potential and taking us back to the dark ages of the union-led 1970's.

Whichever way it turns out, rest assured you'll be screwed over. The only difference is to what degree. The only vote that really matters is the one in yourself, your business and your future...and if you're relying on any politician, of any persuasion, to help you in that endeavour you need a check up from the neck up.

I still think the main reason Labour did not walk this election was because of the famous four at the top. The Conservatives were there for the taking, as everyone has said the worse campaign in history, a leader seen my many to be weak and wobbly, annoying their core supporters (the older generation) so why were'nt they absolutely destroyed and replaced by even a moderately strong opposition. We really don't have a great choice or belief in our main parties at the moment. Perhaps England should have voted for Nicola Sturgeon and held their own independence referendum and left the union.

The Tories fought well in Scotland - banging on about a second independence referendum
that the Scots have no appetite for.

with all the shite going on around the world, better together most people in UK think.

If it weren't for Scotland - Misses May would be gone now
She has actually lost her election

Now the Tories have to work with a powder keg that is Northern Ireland politics.


oh dear oh dear

More like the Tories got lucky in Scotland as the SNP and Labour split the left vote to allow them in.

However, that's politics and we will have to wait for the next election to see if it is a real revival in Scotland.

In the meantime the coalition of carnage is on the table with their terrible alliance with the DUP.

Lot of people in Scotland voted tactically. Nothing to do with luck, I know a lot of Labour voters who voted Tory and vis versa. Now at a time when the country needs to be united to secure the best Brexit deal we are more divided than ever, something Junkers , Tusk and Merkel will exploit to further divide and weaken us. It's a complete clusterfuck.

She'll be gone after the first round of Brexit negotiations.

She'll be laughed out of the room given she has zero bargaining power - No majority.

That post really cheered me up thanks

The Tories fought well in Scotland - banging on about a second independence referendum
that the Scots have no appetite for.

with all the shite going on around the world, better together most people in UK think.

If it weren't for Scotland - Misses May would be gone now
She has actually lost her election

Now the Tories have to work with a powder keg that is Northern Ireland politics.


oh dear oh dear

More like the Tories got lucky in Scotland as the SNP and Labour split the left vote to allow them in.

However, that's politics and we will have to wait for the next election to see if it is a real revival in Scotland.

In the meantime the coalition of carnage is on the table with their terrible alliance with the DUP.

Lot of people in Scotland voted tactically. Nothing to do with luck, I know a lot of Labour voters who voted Tory and vis versa. Now at a time when the country needs to be united to secure the best Brexit deal we are more divided than ever, something Junkers , Tusk and Merkel will exploit to further divide and weaken us. It's a complete clusterfuck.

There was definitely a hint of luck about the Tories in Scotland although tactical voting played a part. I would point out that the reason we are now more divided than ever is down to David Cameron and Theresa May and their reckless gambles for the sake of the Conservative Party. I hope people learn and never trust them again.

Just to lighten the mood after a long night. It's started already...

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So the Tories end an election campaign which they spent attacking Corbyn for his alleged links to former Northern Irish terrorists by going into coalition with a party founded by former Northern Irish terrorists

The hypocrisy is astonishing.

I'm sure Labour would do the same given the chance.

Modern day politics stink.

They were not founded by terrorists they were endorsed by the UDA in their official publication. By far the most serious threat we all face at the moment is Islamic terrorism, I'm not trying to political pointscore, it's over and we are where we are but some of the Islamist company Corbyn kept should be a cause for concern of all right thinking people, May, like her predecessors, dealing with Saudi is sickening but it doesn't make Corbyns behaviour any more palatable.

The Tories fought well in Scotland - banging on about a second independence referendum
that the Scots have no appetite for.

with all the shite going on around the world, better together most people in UK think.

If it weren't for Scotland - Misses May would be gone now
She has actually lost her election

Now the Tories have to work with a powder keg that is Northern Ireland politics.


oh dear oh dear

More like the Tories got lucky in Scotland as the SNP and Labour split the left vote to allow them in.

However, that's politics and we will have to wait for the next election to see if it is a real revival in Scotland.

In the meantime the coalition of carnage is on the table with their terrible alliance with the DUP.

Lot of people in Scotland voted tactically. Nothing to do with luck, I know a lot of Labour voters who voted Tory and vis versa. Now at a time when the country needs to be united to secure the best Brexit deal we are more divided than ever, something Junkers , Tusk and Merkel will exploit to further divide and weaken us. It's a complete clusterfuck.

There was definitely a hint of luck about the Tories in Scotland although tactical voting played a part. I would point out that the reason we are now more divided than ever is down to David Cameron and Theresa May and their reckless gambles for the sake of the Conservative Party. I hope people learn and never trust them again.

Bit stupid talking about luck but I'll bow to your superior knowledge of Scottish politics

So the Tories end an election campaign which they spent attacking Corbyn for his alleged links to former Northern Irish terrorists by going into coalition with a party founded by former Northern Irish terrorists

The hypocrisy is astonishing.

I'm sure Labour would do the same given the chance.

Modern day politics stink.

They were not founded by terrorists they were endorsed by the UDA in their official publication. By far the most serious threat we all face at the moment is Islamic terrorism, I'm not trying to political pointscore, it's over and we are where we are but some of the Islamist company Corbyn kept should be a cause for concern of all right thinking people, May, like her predecessors, dealing with Saudi is sickening but it doesn't make Corbyns behaviour any more palatable.

So what are you inferring JC will start wearing a suicide vest?

Think JC had the same maths teacher as DA. ( we got less votes but we won ) ???
Joking aside I think it is a plot hatched up by the TWO main parties and Brussels to stifle Brexit talks and remain in the EU in everything but name as how can any remainer HONESTLY fight for leaving 100% ?

Question then folks....
When she goes (not if) who will fill her shoes ( and don't say labour please)

I'll go for Sir Michael Fallon.

So the Tories end an election campaign which they spent attacking Corbyn for his alleged links to former Northern Irish terrorists by going into coalition with a party founded by former Northern Irish terrorists

The hypocrisy is astonishing.

I'm sure Labour would do the same given the chance.

Modern day politics stink.

They were not founded by terrorists they were endorsed by the UDA in their official publication. By far the most serious threat we all face at the moment is Islamic terrorism, I'm not trying to political pointscore, it's over and we are where we are but some of the Islamist company Corbyn kept should be a cause for concern of all right thinking people, May, like her predecessors, dealing with Saudi is sickening but it doesn't make Corbyns behaviour any more palatable.

So what are you inferring JC will start wearing a suicide vest?

Comon mate I've already said it's beyond political point scoring, Corbyn has been involved with some horrible Islamist scum surely even the most myopic Labour supporters can admit that, he even invited one fundamentalist zoomer to tea on the Westminsters Terrace, letting party loyalties blind you to this really is pathetic. We've had three recent murderous attacks on us but heyho you just carry on joking.

Chuka Umunna , what a horrible, loud- mouthed , disrespectful excuse of a human being.

sorry to sit on the fence with this

ps. Paul Flynn what a disgusting thing to tweet last night after all the deaths we have seen lately.

May I offer my most sincere apologises to this person as I have had a case of mistaken identity
Meant Shami Chakrabarti.

This is down to tactical voting by Lib/Lab/Green.

Labour couldn't win after that, which really means it's a dismal day for Jeremy Corbyn, who appears to be experiencing victory illusions.

If I was a student now, I'd pay through the arse to get the skills and education, because in thirty years, there'll be many less jobs than now, and millions more people claiming housing benefit, by which time we'll be completely bankrupt anyway.

My advice - forget the degree, buy a chip shop.

Chaos is looming my friends.

The DUP opposed the Good Friday Agreement. It was supported by the electorate in a referendum but they still opposed it.

Chuka Umunna , what a horrible, loud- mouthed , disrespectful excuse of a human being.

sorry to sit on the fence with this

ps. Paul Flynn what a disgusting thing to tweet last night after all the deaths we have seen lately.

May I offer my most sincere apologises to this person as I have had a case of mistaken identity
Meant Shami Chakrabarti.

That's gotta be mistaken identity again Jules. How could anyone dislike Shami Chakrabati? You must mean Paul Nuttall! if

Reminder that the DUP think
- gay people are 'unnatural'
- women should go to prison for abortions
- evolution didn't happen

Chuka Umunna , what a horrible, loud- mouthed , disrespectful excuse of a human being.

sorry to sit on the fence with this

ps. Paul Flynn what a disgusting thing to tweet last night after all the deaths we have seen lately.

May I offer my most sincere apologises to this person as I have had a case of mistaken identity
Meant Shami Chakrabarti.

That's gotta be mistaken identity again Jules. How could anyone dislike Shami Chakrabati? You must mean Paul Nuttall! if

No Slicker,I'm right this time and it's a shame Nuttall wasn't with one of the main parties as he talked a lot of sense this campaign but as usual when UKIP say something its classed as racist but when other parties go near it (which is not often)its ok.
Horrid nasty rude are a few terms I would use for the Baroness.

May has done a deal with terrorists who REFUSED to sign the Good Friday agreement. Fecking hypocrite!

May has done a deal with terrorists who REFUSED to sign the Good Friday agreement. Hypocrite!

Does that excuse Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnells behaviour.

Chuka Umunna , what a horrible, loud- mouthed , disrespectful excuse of a human being.

sorry to sit on the fence with this

ps. Paul Flynn what a disgusting thing to tweet last night after all the deaths we have seen lately.

May I offer my most sincere apologises to this person as I have had a case of mistaken identity
Meant Shami Chakrabarti.

That's gotta be mistaken identity again Jules. How could anyone dislike Shami Chakrabati? You must mean Paul Nuttall! if

No Slicker,I'm right this time and it's a shame Nuttall wasn't with one of the main parties as he talked a lot of sense this campaign but as usual when UKIP say something its classed as racist but when other parties go near it (which is not often)its ok.
Horrid nasty rude are a few terms I would use for the Baroness.

Horrid nasty rude (not my interpretation) or thick, bigoted pisstake? Which one wins Jules? Oh I see the Nutter has just crapped in his pants. Great, another tosser consigned to history!

Chuka Umunna , what a horrible, loud- mouthed , disrespectful excuse of a human being.

sorry to sit on the fence with this

ps. Paul Flynn what a disgusting thing to tweet last night after all the deaths we have seen lately.

May I offer my most sincere apologises to this person as I have had a case of mistaken identity
Meant Shami Chakrabarti.

That's gotta be mistaken identity again Jules. How could anyone dislike Shami Chakrabati? You must mean Paul Nuttall! if

No Slicker,I'm right this time and it's a shame Nuttall wasn't with one of the main parties as he talked a lot of sense this campaign but as usual when UKIP say something its classed as racist but when other parties go near it (which is not often)its ok.
Horrid nasty rude are a few terms I would use for the Baroness.

Horrid nasty rude (not my interpretation) or thick, bigoted pisstake? Which one wins Jules? Oh I see the Nutter has just crapped in his pants. Great, another tosser consigned to history!

On my main point of the Baroness lol, JC's pal, watched her on numerous debates televised and also live so answer me why can't the woman let other people finish their sentences without shouting and interrupting, talking over people and spouting her human rights work? I wonder how many illegal immigrants she represented are now wandering around planning our demise?

Chuka Umunna , what a horrible, loud- mouthed , disrespectful excuse of a human being.

sorry to sit on the fence with this

ps. Paul Flynn what a disgusting thing to tweet last night after all the deaths we have seen lately.

May I offer my most sincere apologises to this person as I have had a case of mistaken identity
Meant Shami Chakrabarti.

That's gotta be mistaken identity again Jules. How could anyone dislike Shami Chakrabati? You must mean Paul Nuttall! if

No Slicker,I'm right this time and it's a shame Nuttall wasn't with one of the main parties as he talked a lot of sense this campaign but as usual when UKIP say something its classed as racist but when other parties go near it (which is not often)its ok.
Horrid nasty rude are a few terms I would use for the Baroness.

Horrid nasty rude (not my interpretation) or thick, bigoted pisstake? Which one wins Jules? Oh I see the Nutter has just crapped in his pants. Great, another tosser consigned to history!

On my main point of the Baroness lol, JC's pal, watched her on numerous debates televised and also live so answer me why can't the woman let other people finish their sentences without shouting and interrupting, talking over people and spouting her human rights work? I wonder how many illegal immigrants she represented are now wandering around planning our demise?

All women shout and interrupt Jules. Have you seen that thick, bigoted, right wing slag Julia Hartley Brewer in action?

May has done a deal with terrorists who REFUSED to sign the Good Friday agreement. Hypocrite!

Does that excuse Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnells behaviour.

I never said it does. Trying to have balance on a right wing forum. Is that okay?