Diane Abbot

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

I'm all for Brexit and I believe the Blues will deliver it 100 x better than the Reds (or Yellows and Greens for that matter) but just be mindful of the 'nasty' surprises the Blues will have in store once they have been elected unchallenged

I believe Theresa May has a certain amount of integrity and she says she want a fairer United Kingdom...

However, the country is still reeling from the failed Blair dynasty and the subsequent banking crisis and there is only one source of regaining the losses made...and that is through heavy taxes and continuing 'austerity' that affects the working man far far more than ever it will the rich and/or the feckless

Never seen such a pair of brainless buffoons in charge of the Labour Party. For Abbot and Corbyn read Abbot and Costello

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Well said Tony though it falls on deaf ears here.Historically the Tories have been worse than than aids to the people of Wales and anyone thats got more than the attention span of a goldfish and can do some serious reading and not just the on-line bullshit would see this.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Agreed.

Up to now the Tories have had to hold back as they haven't had a majority large enough to force through their most worrying policies. If anyone really thinks that the Tories will really model their policies around the low/middle class of Wales then vote for them. However, you really need to look at their record on that and, more importantly, what is in their manifesto and don't listen to what you hear/read in the press.

I don't rate Corbyn as a leader and Abbot is a buffoon.

However, I do believe Corbyn is honest (maybe too honest for a politician) and when you read his policies they sit well with me e.g. Move away from austerity to promote growth, increase NHS wages, more police, smaller class sizes, no more grammar schools, tougher measures for big PLCs to pay their way, no change to the lower and middle tax brackets, etc.

If Corbyn wasn't leader I'd say this was a big chance for Labour but as he simply doesn't seem to be able to command the respect of the public, or his MPs, I think Labour will do well to hold on to what they've got.

Whatever Labour's problems, if the Tories win the landslide that is predicted then it's going to be a very long next 4-5 years with little to look forward to for the vast majority of the population.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS, do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS. In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sector bankrupt the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel, while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines. Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

I wouldn't vote for any party with Abbot part of.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS, do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS. In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sector bankrupt the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel, while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines. Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

So during this period of many Tory governments that you refer to they were in no way responsible for ensuring your children and grand children will have to work for longer than we can ever imagine ? Or is that purely down to the sporadic, evil Labour governments !?

Come on, get real. The Tory policies are not working. They can't even achieve their own economic growth targets yet refuse to consider a different approach.

Aside from basket cases like Greece, etc., no other developed economies have adopted such a stringent austerity program yet we're the slowest in coming out of the downturn ???

It's easy to reduce deficits by hitting easy targets like low paid public sector, NHS, etc. But that merely reduces the standard of living yet whilst Labour were in charge that standard of living improved massively and ultimately isn't that what we all want ? Budget deficits are nothing new under Tory or Labour. They go up, they go down depending on the worldwide economy,at times like this perhaps using that "overdraft" is worth using ?

Let's give people the other option - AMBER RUDD

Currently under criminal investigation for Election Fraud
Currently under investigation for Hate Speach for what she said during the EU Referendum
Declared Orgreave "isn't worth investigation because NOBODY DIED"

But there we are, one way traffic expected from the right wing!

I am desperate to get rid of the Nasty Tories but we Labour supporters are never going to pull this mess around by deluding ourselves that the party isn't riddled with stupid idiots like Diane Abbot.

Even if all the above is true about Amber Rudd she would still be a much better bet than that racist idiot Abbot and it sticks in my throat to say that.

We have to stand up and face our problems and stop making excuses for her and Corbyn. I do doorstep campaigning and the those 2 names keep coming up as to why people won't touch Labour with a barge poll.

We will be thumped on the 8th July and at that point Labour either gets it's act together or it faces oblivion.

Good post Tony.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS, do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS. In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sector bankrupt the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel, while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines. Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Agree its a myth that the tories take away workers rights ,labour supporters need to stop thinking they are in the 70s and move on ,nhs was privitised under labpur also they gave out the majority of private contracts

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Well said

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS, do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS. In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sector bankrupt the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel, while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines. Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

So during this period of many Tory governments that you refer to they were in no way responsible for ensuring your children and grand children will have to work for longer than we can ever imagine ? Or is that purely down to the sporadic, evil Labour governments !?

Come on, get real. The Tory policies are not working. They can't even achieve their own economic growth targets yet refuse to consider a different approach.

Aside from basket cases like Greece, etc., no other developed economies have adopted such a stringent austerity program yet we're the slowest in coming out of the downturn ???

It's easy to reduce deficits by hitting easy targets like low paid public sector, NHS, etc. But that merely reduces the standard of living yet whilst Labour were in charge that standard of living improved massively and ultimately isn't that what we all want ? Budget deficits are nothing new under Tory or Labour. They go up, they go down depending on the worldwide economy,at times like this perhaps using that "overdraft" is worth using ?

We're the slowest coming out of the downturn.........that's why migrants are flocking to work here.
In simple terms, people are living longer so even the hard of thinking could work out the retirement age had to go up. The elephant in the room for decades has been Public Sector pensions.
The Tories are doing well considering the clusterfekk Labour left them. Remember the "there's no money note"

I notice most of the moans and groans on here while aimed at the Tories are about things controlled by the Welsh government, and we need to remember which party has ruled Wales for the past 20 years.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS, do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS. In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sector bankrupt the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel, while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines. Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

So during this period of many Tory governments that you refer to they were in no way responsible for ensuring your children and grand children will have to work for longer than we can ever imagine ? Or is that purely down to the sporadic, evil Labour governments !?

Come on, get real. The Tory policies are not working. They can't even achieve their own economic growth targets yet refuse to consider a different approach.

Aside from basket cases like Greece, etc., no other developed economies have adopted such a stringent austerity program yet we're the slowest in coming out of the downturn ???

It's easy to reduce deficits by hitting easy targets like low paid public sector, NHS, etc. But that merely reduces the standard of living yet whilst Labour were in charge that standard of living improved massively and ultimately isn't that what we all want ? Budget deficits are nothing new under Tory or Labour. They go up, they go down depending on the worldwide economy,at times like this perhaps using that "overdraft" is worth using ?

We're the slowest coming out of the downturn.........that's why migrants are flocking to work here.
In simple terms, people are living longer so even the hard of thinking could work out the retirement age had to go up. The elephant in the room for decades has been Public Sector pensions.
The Tories are doing well considering the clusterfekk Labour left them. Remember the "there's no money note"

What's it like having the taste of thatchers clam in your mouth?
Most sensible and educated people can see both sides of any argument, you are one deluded tory thatcher loving biggot

I notice most of the moans and groans on here while aimed at the Tories are about things controlled by the Welsh government, and we need to remember which party has ruled Wales for the past 20 years.

And you need to remember which political party the WAG has to go cap in hand to for its budget.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I love the NHS and believe it's our countries greatest achievement however mass inward migration has put a massive burden on it. The problem with our social services is they're abused by the lazy and feckless this abuse had to be addressed and as always genuine cases have been caught up in the clean up. The tax the non jobs in the public sector pay won't even cover their pensions. The deficit has increased but bearing in mind we're only just back to where we were pre 2008 crash I think the government has done well. What do you think the debt would be if Corbyn and Co had been running the show. The Tories have actually been closing tax loopholes but IMO a simpler tax system is needed.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS, do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS. In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sector bankrupt the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel, while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines. Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

So during this period of many Tory governments that you refer to they were in no way responsible for ensuring your children and grand children will have to work for longer than we can ever imagine ? Or is that purely down to the sporadic, evil Labour governments !?

Come on, get real. The Tory policies are not working. They can't even achieve their own economic growth targets yet refuse to consider a different approach.

Aside from basket cases like Greece, etc., no other developed economies have adopted such a stringent austerity program yet we're the slowest in coming out of the downturn ???

It's easy to reduce deficits by hitting easy targets like low paid public sector, NHS, etc. But that merely reduces the standard of living yet whilst Labour were in charge that standard of living improved massively and ultimately isn't that what we all want ? Budget deficits are nothing new under Tory or Labour. They go up, they go down depending on the worldwide economy,at times like this perhaps using that "overdraft" is worth using ?

We're the slowest coming out of the downturn.........that's why migrants are flocking to work here.
In simple terms, people are living longer so even the hard of thinking could work out the retirement age had to go up. The elephant in the room for decades has been Public Sector pensions.
The Tories are doing well considering the clusterfekk Labour left them. Remember the "there's no money note"

What's it like having the taste of thatchers clam in your mouth?
Most sensible and educated people can see both sides of any argument, you are one deluded tory thatcher loving biggot

I've never actually been a fan of Thatcher indeed I voted Labour and Lib Dem during her term. I am a pragmatist educated only to O'level standard so forgive my lack of insight and sense. Here's a thought instead of throwing out abuse debate the points I've made and disprove them.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I love the NHS and believe it's our countries greatest achievement however mass inward migration has put a massive burden on it. The problem with our social services is they're abused by the lazy and feckless this abuse had to be addressed and as always genuine cases have been caught up in the clean up. The tax the non jobs in the public sector pay won't even cover their pensions. The deficit has increased but bearing in mind we're only just back to where we were pre 2008 crash I think the government has done well. What do you think the debt would be if Corbyn and Co had been running the show. The Tories have actually been closing tax loopholes but IMO a simpler tax system is needed.

Deficit has reduced year on year since 2010 ,imagine what it woukd of been by now if labour were still in power ?

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

it's a vote of lesser of the two evils that's why I'm voting torys I cannot think having Corbyn in charge of this country would do to us.sadly it's gonna become another unchallenged election where the tories are gonna shit all over us, we're doomed either way

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I love the NHS and believe it's our countries greatest achievement however mass inward migration has put a massive burden on it. The problem with our social services is they're abused by the lazy and feckless this abuse had to be addressed and as always genuine cases have been caught up in the clean up. The tax the non jobs in the public sector pay won't even cover their pensions. The deficit has increased but bearing in mind we're only just back to where we were pre 2008 crash I think the government has done well. What do you think the debt would be if Corbyn and Co had been running the show. The Tories have actually been closing tax loopholes but IMO a simpler tax system is needed.

But you'll vote for the party that has done away with the nurse student bursary, which will mean even more of a reliance on immigrant labour to prop up the NHS. I'm also against mass immigration and think we should train our own people first but the tories are the party for doing the exact opposite of that. They talk the talk but their policies will lead to more immigration and cheap foreign labour not less. The NHS already relies on -

The proportion of foreign nationals increases for professionally qualified clinical staff (14%) and even more so for doctors (26%), prompting the British Medical Association (BMA) to observe that without the contribution of non-British staff, "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care to their patients".

I'm not a fan of Corbyn or Abbott, but the 2008 crash was due to world events and also the fact that New Labour were following Tory rules of Neo Liberalism and minimum regulation, so to vote Tory for a mess created by Tory policies is ridiculous, as is anyone in Wales voting Tory after the way they have decimated our industries and abandoned our country.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I love the NHS and believe it's our countries greatest achievement however mass inward migration has put a massive burden on it. The problem with our social services is they're abused by the lazy and feckless this abuse had to be addressed and as always genuine cases have been caught up in the clean up. The tax the non jobs in the public sector pay won't even cover their pensions. The deficit has increased but bearing in mind we're only just back to where we were pre 2008 crash I think the government has done well. What do you think the debt would be if Corbyn and Co had been running the show. The Tories have actually been closing tax loopholes but IMO a simpler tax system is needed.

Deficit has reduced year on year since 2010 ,imagine what it woukd of been by now if labour were still in power ?

Probably not that much as most know the difference between the word debt which is what we actually owe and deficit which is a word the Tories prefer to use as it reflects the debt in relation to our overall profit and loss accounts of this country.Easily confusing I suppose but the fact is we are in more debt now that we were when the Tories took power.As a Labour supporter I will admit that we need a good stuffing at this election just so we can get rid of the muppets that are currently in charge.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I love the NHS and believe it's our countries greatest achievement however mass inward migration has put a massive burden on it. The problem with our social services is they're abused by the lazy and feckless this abuse had to be addressed and as always genuine cases have been caught up in the clean up. The tax the non jobs in the public sector pay won't even cover their pensions. The deficit has increased but bearing in mind we're only just back to where we were pre 2008 crash I think the government has done well. What do you think the debt would be if Corbyn and Co had been running the show. The Tories have actually been closing tax loopholes but IMO a simpler tax system is needed.

But you'll vote for the party that has done away with the nurse student bursary, which will mean even more of a reliance on immigrant labour to prop up the NHS. I'm also against mass immigration and think we should train our own people first but the tories are the party for doing the exact opposite of that. They talk the talk but their policies will lead to more immigration and cheap foreign labour not less. The NHS already relies on -

The proportion of foreign nationals increases for professionally qualified clinical staff (14%) and even more so for doctors (26%), prompting the British Medical Association (BMA) to observe that without the contribution of non-British staff, "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care to their patients".

I'm not a fan of Corbyn or Abbott, but the 2008 crash was due to world events and also the fact that New Labour were following Tory rules of Neo Liberalism and minimum regulation, so to vote Tory for a mess created by Tory policies is ridiculous, as is anyone in Wales voting Tory after the way they have decimated our industries and abandoned our country.

Yes I'll vote Tory simply because they tick more of my boxes than the rest, they have many policies I'd like to see altered but the alternative simply doesn't bear thinking about. Voting Tory is not an emotive issue for me like it is for the loonies who blame all today's ills on Thatcher.

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I love the NHS and believe it's our countries greatest achievement however mass inward migration has put a massive burden on it. The problem with our social services is they're abused by the lazy and feckless this abuse had to be addressed and as always genuine cases have been caught up in the clean up. The tax the non jobs in the public sector pay won't even cover their pensions. The deficit has increased but bearing in mind we're only just back to where we were pre 2008 crash I think the government has done well. What do you think the debt would be if Corbyn and Co had been running the show. The Tories have actually been closing tax loopholes but IMO a simpler tax system is needed.

Deficit has reduced year on year since 2010 ,imagine what it woukd of been by now if labour were still in power ?

Probably not that much as most know the difference between the word debt which is what we actually owe and deficit which is a word the Tories prefer to use as it reflects the debt in relation to our overall profit and loss accounts of this country.Easily confusing I suppose but the fact is we are in more debt now that we were when the Tories took power.As a Labour supporter I will admit that we need a good stuffing at this election just so we can get rid of the muppets that are currently in charge.

Think how much mote debt we would of been in if labour stayed in power and id the tories carried on labours spending plans

I will be voting conservative for the first time in this general election because of idiots like her.

Also the more I think about it I honestly believe the conservatives would do a better job than labour if they were in charge of the Welsh assembly.

Im feeling the same ,voted ukip last election,labour for 15 years before that but labour have had it with me ,i just dont trust them

Same here Wez, I voted UKIP last election and labour previous to that.

The Conservatives are going to make massive gains in South Wales, hopefully it will be enough to change the mindset of people in Wales that they don't have to vote Labour because they always have.

Admittedly I can't defend Abbot and Corbyn but anyone who thinks the Conservatives will look after the people of South Wales is deluded.

They will in time take away hard earned employment rights and finish the job of dismantling the NHS and Welfare State. Don't be surprised that by the time you retire there is no state pension of any meaning for you to live on. They are only interested in the rich and everyone else is there to be exploited.

They are evil to the core and will return to type once they have their feet firmly in No. 10. Thatcher Mark II is just about to begin.

Absolute nonsense, in my lifetime there's been 7 Conservative PMs yet we still have a brilliant NHS,yo're obviously having a Homer Simpson moment.My wife,my sister in law and my daughter in law(doctor)say it has never been worse do you think the PFI brought in under Labour is good for the NHS.No but that no defence of an underfunded health service and a social services budget that has been raped by the Tories In synopsis Labour get in create millions of non jobs in the Public Sectorthereby boosting the economy in terms of growth,output and tax revenue the economy, Tories get back in power and spend most of their time making cuts to try and get the economy back on an even keel,Tories said austerity was necesary to paying down the debt well bugger me the debts even bigger while the Corbyns, McDonnell s and Abbotts squwack from the sidelines.You got me there Labour want to spend ,spend,spend and let our children and grandchildren pay for it. Incidentally under Labour the NHS had more administrators than nurses.

Now we've got more non tax paying rich people living here than ever before.

I love the NHS and believe it's our countries greatest achievement however mass inward migration has put a massive burden on it. The problem with our social services is they're abused by the lazy and feckless this abuse had to be addressed and as always genuine cases have been caught up in the clean up. The tax the non jobs in the public sector pay won't even cover their pensions. The deficit has increased but bearing in mind we're only just back to where we were pre 2008 crash I think the government has done well. What do you think the debt would be if Corbyn and Co had been running the show. The Tories have actually been closing tax loopholes but IMO a simpler tax system is needed.

Deficit has reduced year on year since 2010 ,imagine what it woukd of been by now if labour were still in power ?

Probably not that much as most know the difference between the word debt which is what we actually owe and deficit which is a word the Tories prefer to use as it reflects the debt in relation to our overall profit and loss accounts of this country.Easily confusing I suppose but the fact is we are in more debt now that we were when the Tories took power.As a Labour supporter I will admit that we need a good stuffing at this election just so we can get rid of the muppets that are currently in charge.

Think how much mote debt we would of been in if labour stayed in power and id the tories carried on labours spending plans

I don't know what Labours spending plans were in 2010 but its fair to assume that you don't either.We probably wouldn't be bringing up the rear coming out of recession.

I notice most of the moans and groans on here while aimed at the Tories are about things controlled by the Welsh government, and we need to remember which party has ruled Wales for the past 20 years.

And you need to remember which political party the WAG has to go cap in hand to for its budget.

The same party who are quick enough to boast about and take credit for any success stories here, but immediately blame the Tories for any failures in Wales. So everything that is good in Wales is down to our Labour leader down the bay, and all the bad things are because we have a Tory government in London.

I notice most of the moans and groans on here while aimed at the Tories are about things controlled by the Welsh government, and we need to remember which party has ruled Wales for the past 20 years.

And you need to remember which political party the WAG has to go cap in hand to for its budget.

The same party who are quick enough to boast about and take credit for any success stories here, but immediately blame the Tories for any failures in Wales. So everything that is good in Wales is down to our Labour leader down the bay, and all the bad things are because we have a Tory government in London.

We in wales get more per head than people in england i think we do alright out of the union

I notice most of the moans and groans on here while aimed at the Tories are about things controlled by the Welsh government, and we need to remember which party has ruled Wales for the past 20 years.

And you need to remember which political party the WAG has to go cap in hand to for its budget.

The same party who are quick enough to boast about and take credit for any success stories here, but immediately blame the Tories for any failures in Wales. So everything that is good in Wales is down to our Labour leader down the bay, and all the bad things are because we have a Tory government in London.

We in wales get more per head than people in england i think we do alright out of the union

We spend it wisely as well, like on a racetrack feasibility study that has less chance of ever holding a motor cycle race than I have of seeing Santa come down my chimney next December.