What caused more people to stop supporting City?

You cant use the rebrand as a reason when the fact is our crowds increased directly after it.

Its down to success, simple as that

The crowds increased due to a new glory hunting fan appearing,many even wearing Welsh rugby shirts, as soon as we came back down they were gone,they were not real Cardiff City fans. I never recognised many of them at away games and never seen them again.

Annis I understand what you are saying and that is what happens at all Football Clubs.

I believe I am 100% right on this, the main reason people stop supporting the City is due to how well we are doing, its as simple as that mate.

History

1939 Division 3 South - average 14,217 finish 13th

The next season same division but finish top average 28,604

Have a couple of high finished in Division 2 up to 30,000+ who all stay for the first season in Division 1 and then slowly fall away as we start to do badly until we are back down to 20,000 and relegated back to division 2 and 15,000.

In the more modern day, 1993 Division 3 Champions, averaging 8,560 with crowds of 17,000+ in some games, fast forward a few years struggling in Division 2 and we are back to 4,000.

A couple of decent seasons where we challenge for the Premiership and an FA Cup Final and we are 20,000+ and increase our average by almost 1,000 post rebrand, highest crowds in years follow before we are relegated and now struggling again back down to 16,000 mark.

The main reason that caused people to stop supporting us is when we are not doing well, its as simple as that, irrespective of the rebrand, if we had maintained our Premier League status the place would have been packed out as it will next season if we are challenging for promotion, that is the nature of the beast, South Wales as an area seems to have a lot more glory supporters than most, that might not actually be factually correct but its how it seems to me anyway.

What caused more people to stop supporting City?

With the exception of the rebrand (a few) and people just not enjoying it anymore (a few) the true answer is simply that the thing that caused more people to stop supporting the City is when we are not doing well.

It is written in our history, one look at our attendance history will show you that.

Absolutely correct. This is not something new the same thing has happened at plenty of other clubs playing in the Premiership/Football League pyramid.

Mind you it is not all bad news as our natural home support in the final few seasons at NP was 10-12k. Now we are doing badly because only 15-16k turn up?

I agree, I am actualy surprised that our crowds have been as high as they have at times, it shows we have at least held on to some of the new fans

What caused more people to stop supporting City?

With the exception of the rebrand (a few) and people just not enjoying it anymore (a few) the true answer is simply that the thing that caused more people to stop supporting the City is when we are not doing well.

It is written in our history, one look at our attendance history will show you that.

Absolutely correct. This is not something new the same thing has happened at plenty of other clubs playing in the Premiership/Football League pyramid.

Mind you it is not all bad news as our natural home support in the final few seasons at NP was 10-12k. Now we are doing badly because only 15-16k turn up?

I agree, I am actualy surprised that our crowds have been as high as they have at times, it shows we have at least held on to some of the new fans

agree . i do stick with what i said about the Chelsea game being a put off for certain pple to travel.
but success or relative success is what drives fans..Arsenal won the double in 71 average crowd 43k, just 5 years late a bottom half finnish and they were down to 26k...leeds 4 consecutive 38k crowds early 2000s 3years later and a relegation its only 22k...there are hundreds of examples to show whats happened to us is normal.. there are anomalies luton and pompey spring to mind where admin/points deductions/falling down the leagues has galvanised their fans and now are getting bigger attendances than when they had far better teams on the park..
hate the phrase glory hunters btw.and totally dont get it. most pple start watching a club on the up or go to a big game i know i did.

been to 3 away days since the PL season, money and time are the two main reasons, in that i dont have enough of either

going to wigan though

been to 3 away days since the PL season, money and time are the two main reasons, in that i dont have enough of either

going to wigan though

Still attend every home game. Use to never ever miss an away game, went everywhere to every away game. What did it in for me was:
* Rebrand
* Tan
* Our own stewards at away matches
* Not able to get away tickets for away PL games, all the glory hunters snapped them up
* Red Tuesday
* The old atmosphere and fun and games had with the boys at Cardiff away games changed massively

I admire anyone who supports any club and who puts in the time, effort and most of all money.

People come and go for a pleathora of reasons I always tell people I am a Cardiff City supporter and always will be. Even in conversations with other PL supporters the thing that always makes me laugh is the number of people who travel from Wales to watch the big 6 in the PL most are welsh and a lot have only doing this in the last 10 yrs.

Hmmm their choice but my allegence will not change.

Still attend every home game. Use to never ever miss an away game, went everywhere to every away game. What did it in for me was:
* Rebrand
* Tan
* Our own stewards at away matches
* Not able to get away tickets for away PL games, all the glory hunters snapped them up
* Red Tuesday
* The old atmosphere and fun and games had with the boys at Cardiff away games changed massively

So your main issue was getting away tickets for prem games as the Tan, the rebrand and Red Tuesday had already heppened.

Still attend every home game. Use to never ever miss an away game, went everywhere to every away game. What did it in for me was:
* Rebrand
* Tan
* Our own stewards at away matches
* Not able to get away tickets for away PL games, all the glory hunters snapped them up
* Red Tuesday
* The old atmosphere and fun and games had with the boys at Cardiff away games changed massively

So your main issue was getting away tickets for prem games as the Tan, the rebrand and Red Tuesday had already heppened.

Mainly the away day experience which was way better in the 70s/80s/90s and start of the noughties

I honesty think and believe the death of 'hooligan 'and cctv has killed are support home and away.
The fun has gone for me for supporting city! (My opinion only)