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Wez, Tan has also received £200,000 from Sky money,gate money,Parachute payments,sponsorships, what the hell has he done with it all? ? ? ?

Put simply Annis Tan has used the money to run the football club. Even after all those payments from Sky etc. he has still had to dip into his own pocket to keep us afloat, including £15m to settle Langston debts and more millions to pay off the mess Ridsdale left behind.

You muddy the waters well but when all the smoke and mirrors are taken away the club accounts prove beyond doubt that VT has put 10's of millions of pounds into this club. He certainly hasn't taken money out which was the standard practise before he arrived (e.g. Riddler/PMG)

Tan is guilty of a stupid mistake with the rebrand he is also guilty of wasting millions of pounds on bad deals. However, he has taken full responsibility for that and will have fully paid the tab when we become debt free.

I think he has the best interests of the club at heart and when you compare him to say Coventry's owners then we should be thankful if a little annoyed that things could have been oh so much better.

Any idea of what the current debt figure is, and how long it will take to clear at the current rate of reduction?

Wez, Tan has also received £200,000 from Sky money,gate money,Parachute payments,sponsorships, what the hell has he done with it all? ? ? ?

Put simply Annis Tan has used the money to run the football club. Even after all those payments from Sky etc. he has still had to dip into his own pocket to keep us afloat, including £15m to settle Langston debts and more millions to pay off the mess Ridsdale left behind.

You muddy the waters well but when all the smoke and mirrors are taken away the club accounts prove beyond doubt that VT has put 10's of millions of pounds into this club. He certainly hasn't taken money out which was the standard practise before he arrived (e.g. Riddler/PMG)

Tan is guilty of a stupid mistake with the rebrand he is also guilty of wasting millions of pounds on bad deals. However, he has taken full responsibility for that and will have fully paid the tab when we become debt free.

I think he has the best interests of the club at heart and when you compare him to say Coventry's owners then we should be thankful if a little annoyed that things could have been oh so much better.

Spot on.
No other chairman has taken responsibility like Tan in recent time.

Wez, Tan has also received £200,000 from Sky money,gate money,Parachute payments,sponsorships, what the hell has he done with it all? ? ? ?

Put simply Annis Tan has used the money to run the football club. Even after all those payments from Sky etc. he has still had to dip into his own pocket to keep us afloat, including £15m to settle Langston debts and more millions to pay off the mess Ridsdale left behind.

You muddy the waters well but when all the smoke and mirrors are taken away the club accounts prove beyond doubt that VT has put 10's of millions of pounds into this club. He certainly hasn't taken money out which was the standard practise before he arrived (e.g. Riddler/PMG)

Tan is guilty of a stupid mistake with the rebrand he is also guilty of wasting millions of pounds on bad deals. However, he has taken full responsibility for that and will have fully paid the tab when we become debt free.

I think he has the best interests of the club at heart and when you compare him to say Coventry's owners then we should be thankful if a little annoyed that things could have been oh so much better.

Nice one Tony!! I really don't like Tan. Never have, never will.

But, I do concede that his money has been put in to keep things afloat. He's also written off debts at times. It's just that the original promise to convert debt to equity has not been forthcoming in its entirety as implied at the beginning. That still catches in my throat.

Just saying.

Once again another thread where some can't help but pin the blame at the board, Trollope wanted him more than anyone and the club gave him is man, narrow minded thoughts taking over some as always.

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

I have noticed that it tends to be the same people who sing Tan's praises who predicted us to be getting automatic promotion this season, who thought Trollope was the man do do that, and who thought Lambert would get the goals to fire us to the Premier League. Some people will see absolutely no wrong with Tan, while some will never see him as anything other than bad. I have read on here that Tan is a man of his word, and an honorable man, and he may well be. That is why some are convinced that he will leave this club entirely debt free. If he is a man of his word, why do people think we can get automatic promotion next season when he made it clear that he would not make money available if we went back to blue. Surely you can't just believe Mr Tan when he says something we like, but ignore anything he says that we don't like. I am keeping an open mind, and even though I stopped going when we played in red, am not a person to hold a grudge. I will wait and see what happens because I have heard plenty of similar things said in the past which turned out to be nothing more than a public relations excercise.

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

thanks ,
I support the club who ever is in charge always have, always will, cardigf city is my team and just think people who keep bashing the club at every opportunity have otner agendas

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

I have noticed that it tends to be the same people who sing Tan's praises who predicted us to be getting automatic promotion this season, who thought Trollope was the man do do that, and who thought Lambert would get the goals to fire us to the Premier League. Some people will see absolutely no wrong with Tan, while some will never see him as anything other than bad. I have read on here that Tan is a man of his word, and an honorable man, and he may well be. That is why some are convinced that he will leave this club entirely debt free. If he is a man of his word, why do people think we can get automatic promotion next season when he made it clear that he would not make money available if we went back to blue. Surely you can't just believe Mr Tan when he says something we like, but ignore anything he says that we don't like. I am keeping an open mind, and even though I stopped going when we played in red, am not a person to hold a grudge. I will wait and see what happens because I have heard plenty of similar things said in the past which turned out to be nothing more than a public relations excercise.

Its called being a fan thinking we can go up every season ,i hope at the start of every season that the team clicks and we go on a good run ,why not have hope ? Isnt it what being a fan is about ?

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

I have noticed that it tends to be the same people who sing Tan's praises who predicted us to be getting automatic promotion this season, who thought Trollope was the man do do that, and who thought Lambert would get the goals to fire us to the Premier League. Some people will see absolutely no wrong with Tan, while some will never see him as anything other than bad. I have read on here that Tan is a man of his word, and an honorable man, and he may well be. That is why some are convinced that he will leave this club entirely debt free. If he is a man of his word, why do people think we can get automatic promotion next season when he made it clear that he would not make money available if we went back to blue. Surely you can't just believe Mr Tan when he says something we like, but ignore anything he says that we don't like. I am keeping an open mind, and even though I stopped going when we played in red, am not a person to hold a grudge. I will wait and see what happens because I have heard plenty of similar things said in the past which turned out to be nothing more than a public relations excercise.

Its called being a fan thinking we can go up every season ,i hope at the start of every season that the team clicks and we go on a good run ,why not have hope ? Isnt it what being a fan is about ?

Its called arse licking the man who stripped our club of its once proud identity and I am not a fan for backing him, I stand by this I despise him.

I support Cardiff City/The Club/Team Not the Regime

To put it straight, I don't need to prove myself as a fan to someone like you or anyone. Opinions / Beliefs should be respected, diff opinions do not make you a less fan, it's when you stop going through poor results makes you a lesser fan.

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

Its going way off topic now. Nobody is doubting that Wez has unwavering support for the club and everyone no doubt appreciates and admires it. But all fans start the season with the expectations or at least hope that all goes well and promotion comes at the end, its just some are a little more realistic.

Tan's made mistakes there's no doubt n that, the rebrand was catastrophic and set us back years. The removal of the experienced administrators of our club and their replacement with his own football inexperienced staff was another poor move on his part. That said I think he wants us to succeed and if you had to judge him against the other foreign in British football over the last 10 years he wouldn't be in the worst dozen.

The Lambert move was a calamity in the administration more so than on the field. The 2 year contract and possible extension now seems excepted. Wez you rubbished those claims 6 months ago but they now seem to be the position. Interestingly Lambert is stuck on 19 games although only 17 for us. I've started to think the 20 game clause might just be 20 games this season and not necessarily for us. Couldn't possibly of signed up to that could we ?

What do we do with Lambert now ? Take it from me him and his agent will already be expecting a 100% pay out of his remaining contract and if we tell him to go that's exactly what he'll get. He's then free to get something in the middle or far east and have a nice little pay day. He's an ex England international and he'll get it from people more interested in his CV than his performances for us. Don't release him, we have nothing to lose. If he wants to go then let him make the concessions. If we could get away at anytime with paying 50% of next years contract then that would be a fantastic deal.
That wont happen if he's shown the door.

One last point on our contractual naivety. The additional sums due for the sale of David Marshall, the appearances which he wont make and Hull's survival in the premiership which is currently looking more than possible. If they do survive its down to the wording whether we get all, some or nothing of that additional payment. Pure speculation on my part as I have no idea.

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

Nobody can question your support for CCFC Annis as your record speaks for itself. However, many can question your motives and whether you are overreacting when it comes to Tan. Your claim he is a 'dictator' doesn't hold up to scrutiny as he gave a choice on the rebrand (admittedly not a good one) but a choice altogether. He also reversed that decision.

Also I think it is reasonable to state that someone who puts in over £100m has got the right to some say on how it is spent, whether wisely or not.

Universally it is now agreed that the rebrand was a terrible idea but Tan has paid for that out of his own pocket, he hasn't run off and hid like the former owners of other clubs like Portsmouth have.

Personally I think some of the things you say are spot on. We have had too many bad deals over the past few years and that needs to be addressed. Also we need more investment into the academy so we produce our own rather than pay a fortune to hirer scrap car versions of players like Lambert.

That said you lose it when you start talking about despising Tan. He is far from the worst owner we have had and is light years better than the last lot Riddler/PMG who milked this club for everything they could grab. I understand you have fallen out with former friends over the rebrand, but your inability to bridge those disputes are a failing on your/their part and not the fault of Tan, who is simply being used as an excuse to dump the blame on.

I have noticed that it tends to be the same people who sing Tan's praises who predicted us to be getting automatic promotion this season, who thought Trollope was the man do do that, and who thought Lambert would get the goals to fire us to the Premier League. Some people will see absolutely no wrong with Tan, while some will never see him as anything other than bad. I have read on here that Tan is a man of his word, and an honorable man, and he may well be. That is why some are convinced that he will leave this club entirely debt free. If he is a man of his word, why do people think we can get automatic promotion next season when he made it clear that he would not make money available if we went back to blue. Surely you can't just believe Mr Tan when he says something we like, but ignore anything he says that we don't like. I am keeping an open mind, and even though I stopped going when we played in red, am not a person to hold a grudge. I will wait and see what happens because I have heard plenty of similar things said in the past which turned out to be nothing more than a public relations excercise.

Guilty as charged, I'm a fan and will always be optimistic about our chances, you never know one day I might even get my 'I told you so' moment

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

Nobody can question your support for CCFC Annis as your record speaks for itself. However, many can question your motives and whether you are overreacting when it comes to Tan. Your claim he is a 'dictator' doesn't hold up to scrutiny as he gave a choice on the rebrand (admittedly not a good one) but a choice altogether. He also reversed that decision.

Also I think it is reasonable to state that someone who puts in over £100m has got the right to some say on how it is spent, whether wisely or not.

Universally it is now agreed that the rebrand was a terrible idea but Tan has paid for that out of his own pocket, he hasn't run off and hid like the former owners of other clubs like Portsmouth have.

Personally I think some of the things you say are spot on. We have had too many bad deals over the past few years and that needs to be addressed. Also we need more investment into the academy so we produce our own rather than pay a fortune to hirer scrap car versions of players like Lambert.

That said you lose it when you start talking about despising Tan. He is far from the worst owner we have had and is light years better than the last lot Riddler/PMG who milked this club for everything they could grab. I understand you have fallen out with former friends over the rebrand, but your inability to bridge those disputes are a failing on your/their part and not the fault of Tan, who is simply being used as an excuse to dump the blame on.

Thanks Tony

I know I over react sometimes about Tan and despise is prob over the top.
I do it because a certain few arselick Tan and never admit Tan has made loads of awful decisions.

Yes Tan put money in to our club, but at a cost to our pride/passion and identity which is what your club is about. He has also continued for 7 years making costly mistakes and a few on here never are honest enough to acknowledge this.

After over 7 years, we are in the mess because of how Tan has himself run our club and that is the truth.

Hopefully we are finally moving forward on and of the pitch

I have noticed that it tends to be the same people who sing Tan's praises who predicted us to be getting automatic promotion this season, who thought Trollope was the man do do that, and who thought Lambert would get the goals to fire us to the Premier League. Some people will see absolutely no wrong with Tan, while some will never see him as anything other than bad. I have read on here that Tan is a man of his word, and an honorable man, and he may well be. That is why some are convinced that he will leave this club entirely debt free. If he is a man of his word, why do people think we can get automatic promotion next season when he made it clear that he would not make money available if we went back to blue. Surely you can't just believe Mr Tan when he says something we like, but ignore anything he says that we don't like. I am keeping an open mind, and even though I stopped going when we played in red, am not a person to hold a grudge. I will wait and see what happens because I have heard plenty of similar things said in the past which turned out to be nothing more than a public relations excercise.

Guilty as charged, I'm a fan and will always be optimistic about our chances, you never know one day I might even get my 'I told you so' moment

Your glass is half full rather than half empty, Tony and I subscribe to that theory 100%

Far too much still being made of past errors by many people (Tan, Riddler, Sam, the Kumars, the Travel Agent, Kenton Utilities, City fans, etc. just to name a few) but the fact is that this club is slowly but surely heading towards a sustainable future; a security of which any one which several other currently sinking clubs would bite our hands off to have!

I'm not a massive Tan fan after some of the stuff that has gone on but neither do I hate him. He's made mistakes but he's also taken our club to the Premier League, so on that form alone he is our most successful owner for many a year. He is also paying off a debt that was not only of his making and he has admitted to the part he played in being initially 'gullible' to the self-interest of others (thankfully most of whom have departed the club scene)

We can never 'forgive' the red no matter whether it offended some far more than others, but we can move on from it. It's history, it's gone and (thankfully) it's not likely to be repeated

I can see a bright future for CardiffCity FC under Neil Warnock and with the (albeit restricted by FFP Rules) backing of an owner who appears to be finally getting it right. All it needs now is for the fans to stop moaning about the past and to get behind the club for next season in a show of strength and solidarity

Season Tickets are on currently sale. What a great way for previously sceptical 'fans' to show the club they still care and are prepared to get behind them!

I have noticed that it tends to be the same people who sing Tan's praises who predicted us to be getting automatic promotion this season, who thought Trollope was the man do do that, and who thought Lambert would get the goals to fire us to the Premier League. Some people will see absolutely no wrong with Tan, while some will never see him as anything other than bad. I have read on here that Tan is a man of his word, and an honorable man, and he may well be. That is why some are convinced that he will leave this club entirely debt free. If he is a man of his word, why do people think we can get automatic promotion next season when he made it clear that he would not make money available if we went back to blue. Surely you can't just believe Mr Tan when he says something we like, but ignore anything he says that we don't like. I am keeping an open mind, and even though I stopped going when we played in red, am not a person to hold a grudge. I will wait and see what happens because I have heard plenty of similar things said in the past which turned out to be nothing more than a public relations excercise.

Guilty as charged, I'm a fan and will always be optimistic about our chances, you never know one day I might even get my 'I told you so' moment

Tony, I genuinely hope you can get that "I told you so" moment, and I would absolutely love it if that moment comes this time next year. For me, after 50 years of false dawns and broken promises, I am not as optimistic as I should be, or once was. I always used to play up our chances, and thought we were going places. Unfortunately, during all those years we have spent one very brief spell at the top, with most of my time spent watching us play in the bottom two divisions. I hope this time things will be better, but I am far less optimistic than many of the members on this forum.

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

44 years of moaning

Its not just Tan thought is it

Under Ridsdale we wasted plenty of money on players like JFH and Fowler

Under Sam we bought got knows how many players over value and reported to be paying Peter Thorn 10k a goal.

Im not blaming any of them either, its just football, show me a club that has never spent or waste money on a player and id be amazed.

Luke at some stage they've all done it.

But under Tan its taken more than 7 years of costly mistakes,where he has blamed everyone and of course one step further the Despicable Rebrand.

Tan, 8 Managers and 6 CEO's later unbelievable.

but with tan hes been writing off his mistakes with his own money unlike risdale and your mate sam

Well said Wez you are a real true city fan! Loyal to the club not like others on here who have had their nose pushed out of joint and have become bitter and twisted! To those I say get behind our club and stop behaving like a spoilt brat just because your inflated egos been put out of joint! Grow up ffs

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

44 years of moaning

44 years of moaning yes But Loyal no matter what the score

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

Nobody can question your support for CCFC Annis as your record speaks for itself. However, many can question your motives and whether you are overreacting when it comes to Tan. Your claim he is a 'dictator' doesn't hold up to scrutiny as he gave a choice on the rebrand (admittedly not a good one) but a choice altogether. He also reversed that decision.

Also I think it is reasonable to state that someone who puts in over £100m has got the right to some say on how it is spent, whether wisely or not.

Universally it is now agreed that the rebrand was a terrible idea but Tan has paid for that out of his own pocket, he hasn't run off and hid like the former owners of other clubs like Portsmouth have.

Personally I think some of the things you say are spot on. We have had too many bad deals over the past few years and that needs to be addressed. Also we need more investment into the academy so we produce our own rather than pay a fortune to hirer scrap car versions of players like Lambert.

That said you lose it when you start talking about despising Tan. He is far from the worst owner we have had and is light years better than the last lot Riddler/PMG who milked this club for everything they could grab. I understand you have fallen out with former friends over the rebrand, but your inability to bridge those disputes are a failing on your/their part and not the fault of Tan, who is simply being used as an excuse to dump the blame on.

Thanks Tony

I know I over react sometimes about Tan and despise is prob over the top.
I do it because a certain few arselick Tan and never admit Tan has made loads of awful decisions.

Yes Tan put money in to our club, but at a cost to our pride/passion and identity which is what your club is about. He has also continued for 7 years making costly mistakes and a few on here never are honest enough to acknowledge this.

After over 7 years, we are in the mess because of how Tan has himself run our club and that is the truth.

Hopefully we are finally moving forward on and of the pitch

Anyone that doesn't believe Tan has made huge mistakes since he has been here needs help I think most people could make a pretty long list of mistakes but then he has also done good things for the club. Some people look for any reason or anything to twist to have a dig at Tan which isn't helpful for the club in my opinoon.

Yes Tan is paying for the mess he made but also remember he has paid for the mess of previous owners ie Ridsdale and "Langston".

Plenty of positivity feeling around the club at the moment I don't think we need to look for negatives just to have a go at Tan.

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

Nobody can question your support for CCFC Annis as your record speaks for itself. However, many can question your motives and whether you are overreacting when it comes to Tan. Your claim he is a 'dictator' doesn't hold up to scrutiny as he gave a choice on the rebrand (admittedly not a good one) but a choice altogether. He also reversed that decision.

Also I think it is reasonable to state that someone who puts in over £100m has got the right to some say on how it is spent, whether wisely or not.

Universally it is now agreed that the rebrand was a terrible idea but Tan has paid for that out of his own pocket, he hasn't run off and hid like the former owners of other clubs like Portsmouth have.

Personally I think some of the things you say are spot on. We have had too many bad deals over the past few years and that needs to be addressed. Also we need more investment into the academy so we produce our own rather than pay a fortune to hirer scrap car versions of players like Lambert.

That said you lose it when you start talking about despising Tan. He is far from the worst owner we have had and is light years better than the last lot Riddler/PMG who milked this club for everything they could grab. I understand you have fallen out with former friends over the rebrand, but your inability to bridge those disputes are a failing on your/their part and not the fault of Tan, who is simply being used as an excuse to dump the blame on.

Thanks Tony

I know I over react sometimes about Tan and despise is prob over the top.
I do it because a certain few arselick Tan and never admit Tan has made loads of awful decisions.

Yes Tan put money in to our club, but at a cost to our pride/passion and identity which is what your club is about. He has also continued for 7 years making costly mistakes and a few on here never are honest enough to acknowledge this.

After over 7 years, we are in the mess because of how Tan has himself run our club and that is the truth.

Hopefully we are finally moving forward on and of the pitch

Anyone that doesn't believe Tan has made huge mistakes since he has been here needs help I think most people could make a pretty long list of mistakes but then he has also done good things for the club. Some people look for any reason or anything to twist to have a dig at Tan which isn't helpful for the club in my opinoon.

Yes Tan is paying for the mess he made but also remember he has paid for the mess of previous owners ie Ridsdale and "Langston".

Plenty of positivity feeling around the club at the moment I don't think we need to look for negatives just to have a go at Tan.

Im going to get a private Doctor for Wez

Anyone who supports City needs a bit of extra help

Your prob a fan who came along in the Glory days.

I had a season ticket for 44 consecutive years, never missed a match home or away from the age of 13 till I was 36 yrs old.
Over 2,500 home games. Saw every game home and away in Div 4 for 9 yrs.
I was there when we took only 11,20,40,50 fans aways, I don't rem many fans like you lot going, in fact I don't believe you were there?
I was there at at City's all time five lowest home crowds from 1,400 in our history.

Results no matter how they went Never ever put me off and Never will,so just because I don't like Tan, I am not a true fan

So if we don't bow to dictators and his followers we are not City fans, what a pathetic bunch of glory hunters some so called fans are and the ones like yourself def are.

Every Cardiff City fan should be able to express their opinion/belief about players/managers/owners

Nobody can question your support for CCFC Annis as your record speaks for itself. However, many can question your motives and whether you are overreacting when it comes to Tan. Your claim he is a 'dictator' doesn't hold up to scrutiny as he gave a choice on the rebrand (admittedly not a good one) but a choice altogether. He also reversed that decision.

Also I think it is reasonable to state that someone who puts in over £100m has got the right to some say on how it is spent, whether wisely or not.

Universally it is now agreed that the rebrand was a terrible idea but Tan has paid for that out of his own pocket, he hasn't run off and hid like the former owners of other clubs like Portsmouth have.

Personally I think some of the things you say are spot on. We have had too many bad deals over the past few years and that needs to be addressed. Also we need more investment into the academy so we produce our own rather than pay a fortune to hirer scrap car versions of players like Lambert.

That said you lose it when you start talking about despising Tan. He is far from the worst owner we have had and is light years better than the last lot Riddler/PMG who milked this club for everything they could grab. I understand you have fallen out with former friends over the rebrand, but your inability to bridge those disputes are a failing on your/their part and not the fault of Tan, who is simply being used as an excuse to dump the blame on.

Thanks Tony

I know I over react sometimes about Tan and despise is prob over the top.
I do it because a certain few arselick Tan and never admit Tan has made loads of awful decisions.

Yes Tan put money in to our club, but at a cost to our pride/passion and identity which is what your club is about. He has also continued for 7 years making costly mistakes and a few on here never are honest enough to acknowledge this.

After over 7 years, we are in the mess because of how Tan has himself run our club and that is the truth.

Hopefully we are finally moving forward on and of the pitch

Anyone that doesn't believe Tan has made huge mistakes since he has been here needs help I think most people could make a pretty long list of mistakes but then he has also done good things for the club. Some people look for any reason or anything to twist to have a dig at Tan which isn't helpful for the club in my opinoon.

Yes Tan is paying for the mess he made but also remember he has paid for the mess of previous owners ie Ridsdale and "Langston".

Plenty of positivity feeling around the club at the moment I don't think we need to look for negatives just to have a go at Tan.

Im going to get a private Doctor for Wez

No doctor can cure me

Anyone who supports City needs a bit of extra help

Luke thats very true