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Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I love my crowd debates, been my favourite part of football since I was 7 yrs old, every weekend thats the first thing I look for crowds :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



its really not straight forward mate, you can look at if from differing points of view.
eg.. you put a piece up about Bradford taking 1450 to Port Vale.
on one hand,yes its good.but not great.
its only 85 miles was only 22 quid and they are having a good season challenging for promotion.and on top of that what they spend on their home matches is peanuts, in theory allowing them more of their football budget to travel.
you can argue it either way.



Excuses excuses excuses :lol:

It is good.

First they are in a lower division so the price £22 is you could say ok.
Taking that many away is good in a lower division.
Also Bradford have played them numerous times over the years and many on here say it gets boring :lol:
Also they are 6th not once been in automatic promotion place.
I can drive to Reading from Castleton in just over an hour so that's not far and I've been to Reading now 14 times with City, you could say that's very near.
Port Vale mean nothing to Bradford fans, they go because it's BRADFORD CITY.

It was £99 for under 22's at Cardiff and £249 for Adults and £50 for Kids that was Fantastic value to play NEWCASTLE VILLA LEEDS etc. etc.


Next you will be saying 1,100 Pompey going to Carlisle is not good :lol:


You even in another post said CARDIFF should charge £120 for Adults, next you will be saying that's a joke :roll:


was obviously sarcasm in response to the rediculous 150 and 175 sugestions on threads as well you know .

saturday afternoon..85 miles.. 22 quid.. what other play off contenders fail to get 1450 for a similar game.

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:43 pm

dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I love my crowd debates, been my favourite part of football since I was 7 yrs old, every weekend thats the first thing I look for crowds :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



its really not straight forward mate, you can look at if from differing points of view.
eg.. you put a piece up about Bradford taking 1450 to Port Vale.
on one hand,yes its good.but not great.
its only 85 miles was only 22 quid and they are having a good season challenging for promotion.and on top of that what they spend on their home matches is peanuts, in theory allowing them more of their football budget to travel.
you can argue it either way.



Excuses excuses excuses :lol:

It is good.

First they are in a lower division so the price £22 is you could say ok.
Taking that many away is good in a lower division.
Also Bradford have played them numerous times over the years and many on here say it gets boring :lol:
Also they are 6th not once been in automatic promotion place.
I can drive to Reading from Castleton in just over an hour so that's not far and I've been to Reading now 14 times with City, you could say that's very near.
Port Vale mean nothing to Bradford fans, they go because it's BRADFORD CITY.

It was £99 for under 22's at Cardiff and £249 for Adults and £50 for Kids that was Fantastic value to play NEWCASTLE VILLA LEEDS etc. etc.


Next you will be saying 1,100 Pompey going to Carlisle is not good :lol:


You even in another post said CARDIFF should charge £120 for Adults, next you will be saying that's a joke :roll:


was actually sarcasm in response to the rediculous 150 and 175 sugestions on threads sugesting how our club could get more in debt.

saturday afternoon..85 miles.. 22 quid.. what other play off contenders fail to get 1450 for a similar game.


You changed your tune after looking stupid. Our prices are fantastic value :thumbright: :lol: :lol: :lol:





Well we only took 1,500 to Burnley to watch our first major trophy be won in 50 odd years and we could pay on the day,had 3,000 allocation.
And guess what it was to go to the Premier League, other clubs usually take 3,000-10,000 what ever is available.

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:55 pm

JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:00 pm

dogfound wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..







A FACT.


Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I love my crowd debates, been my favourite part of football since I was 7 yrs old, every weekend thats the first thing I look for crowds :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



its really not straight forward mate, you can look at if from differing points of view.
eg.. you put a piece up about Bradford taking 1450 to Port Vale.
on one hand,yes its good.but not great.
its only 85 miles was only 22 quid and they are having a good season challenging for promotion.and on top of that what they spend on their home matches is peanuts, in theory allowing them more of their football budget to travel.
you can argue it either way.



Excuses excuses excuses :lol:

It is good.

First they are in a lower division so the price £22 is you could say ok.
Taking that many away is good in a lower division.
Also Bradford have played them numerous times over the years and many on here say it gets boring :lol:
Also they are 6th not once been in automatic promotion place.
I can drive to Reading from Castleton in just over an hour so that's not far and I've been to Reading now 14 times with City, you could say that's very near.
Port Vale mean nothing to Bradford fans, they go because it's BRADFORD CITY.

It was £99 for under 22's at Cardiff and £249 for Adults and £50 for Kids that was Fantastic value to play NEWCASTLE VILLA LEEDS etc. etc.


Next you will be saying 1,100 Pompey going to Carlisle is not good :lol:


You even in another post said CARDIFF should charge £120 for Adults, next you will be saying that's a joke :roll:


was actually sarcasm in response to the rediculous 150 and 175 sugestions on threads sugesting how our club could get more in debt.

saturday afternoon..85 miles.. 22 quid.. what other play off contenders fail to get 1450 for a similar game.


You changed your tune after looking stupid. Our prices are fantastic value :thumbright: :lol: :lol: :lol:





Well we only took 1,500 to Burnley to watch our first major trophy be won in 50 odd years and we could pay on the day,had 3,000 allocation.
And guess what it was to go to the Premier League, other clubs usually take 3,000-10,000 what ever is available.




Well we only took 1,500 to Burnley to watch our first major trophy be won in 50 odd years and we could pay on the day,had 3,000 allocation.
And guess what it was to go to the Premier League, other clubs usually take 3,000-10,000 what ever is available.


no change of tune..just a sarci post aimed at the lets get more in debt by charging 175quid thread. which we both posted in..and therefore read each others posts

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..







A FACT.


Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


yes i do agree with that. but it also works in reverse. we have fans reluctent to travel to certain places in fear of a hostile reception due to the fact we used to go to these places mob handed. thats a fact too
its cant be FACT for other clubs but ..EXCUSES when it comes to your own club.. can it.?

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:45 pm

dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..







A FACT.


Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


yes i do agree with that. but it also works in reverse. we have fans reluctent to travel to certain places in fear of a hostile reception due to the fact we used to go to these places mob handed. thats a fact too
its cant be FACT for other clubs but ..EXCUSES when it comes to your own club.. can it.?



In my 44 odd years, I've never heard of Cardiff Fans afraid to go to any away game, the Valleys especially not :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluescarf:


Actually West Ham, Millwall, Chelsea, Leeds reputations use to make more Cardiff fans go away to them :lol: :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..







A FACT.


Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


yes i do agree with that. but it also works in reverse. we have fans reluctent to travel to certain places in fear of a hostile reception due to the fact we used to go to these places mob handed. thats a fact too
its cant be FACT for other clubs but ..EXCUSES when it comes to your own club.. can it.?



In my 44 odd years, I've never heard of Cardiff Fans afraid to go to any away game, the Valleys especially not :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluescarf:


Actually West Ham, Millwall, Chelsea, Leeds reputations use to make more Cardiff fans go away to them :lol: :thumbright: :bluebird:



sorry to be the bearer of bad news..but that ship sailed about 10 years back. we have new fans with different values and ideas of what watching football should be like.. or is it i am blind and away teams are still arriving up for it and being met with like minded mobs?

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:39 pm

dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..







A FACT.


Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


yes i do agree with that. but it also works in reverse. we have fans reluctent to travel to certain places in fear of a hostile reception due to the fact we used to go to these places mob handed. thats a fact too
its cant be FACT for other clubs but ..EXCUSES when it comes to your own club.. can it.?



In my 44 odd years, I've never heard of Cardiff Fans afraid to go to any away game, the Valleys especially not :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluescarf:


Actually West Ham, Millwall, Chelsea, Leeds reputations use to make more Cardiff fans go away to them :lol: :thumbright: :bluebird:



sorry to be the bearer of bad news..but that ship sailed about 10 years back. we have new fans with different values and ideas of what watching football should be like.. or is it i am blind and away teams are still arriving up for it and being met with like minded mobs?


Sorry,you must be watching a different club?

The last 10 years if you have been going away with CARDIFF CITY you will find NO trouble at all, I've taken my daughters everywhere :thumbright:
Plus Carl, Mallo, Lyndon take their daughters no problem at all :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Come and watch Cardiff away,I am back this month :thumbright:

Below is Middlesborough away with Cardiff City last season on a Tuesday night with my daughter, I can pull up over 100 photos of away games with my daughters following Cardiff City, No police around and not a problem :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:
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Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:57 pm

adamt958 wrote:Always thought that Reading's support was poor, considering the distance, pretty sure we only charged them £20 max this season too, & with them fighting for promotion, we took over double there than they did to is


Its a nothing game to them though mate whilst its like a local derby to us, they have Fulham, Brighton, Brentford, QPR, Villa, Birmingham and Bristol City all closer to them than we are, then most of the rest of the midlands sides are roughly the same distance so coming to us is just another game for them.

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..







A FACT.


Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


yes i do agree with that. but it also works in reverse. we have fans reluctent to travel to certain places in fear of a hostile reception due to the fact we used to go to these places mob handed. thats a fact too
its cant be FACT for other clubs but ..EXCUSES when it comes to your own club.. can it.?



In my 44 odd years, I've never heard of Cardiff Fans afraid to go to any away game, the Valleys especially not :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluescarf:


Actually West Ham, Millwall, Chelsea, Leeds reputations use to make more Cardiff fans go away to them :lol: :thumbright: :bluebird:



That is very true, that's why the Leeds following shocked me, our fans used to love a game with a bit of spice and it doesn't get much better than Leeds

Re: ' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:23 pm

RV Casual wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.



21 clubs brought less to the CCS than what their ave away following is..







A FACT.


Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


yes i do agree with that. but it also works in reverse. we have fans reluctent to travel to certain places in fear of a hostile reception due to the fact we used to go to these places mob handed. thats a fact too
its cant be FACT for other clubs but ..EXCUSES when it comes to your own club.. can it.?



In my 44 odd years, I've never heard of Cardiff Fans afraid to go to any away game, the Valleys especially not :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluescarf:


Actually West Ham, Millwall, Chelsea, Leeds reputations use to make more Cardiff fans go away to them :lol: :thumbright: :bluebird:



That is very true, that's why the Leeds following shocked me, our fans used to love a game with a bit of spice and it doesn't get much better than Leeds


It's because we have lost hundreds of the old heads.