Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:01 pm
dogfound wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
To be fair £300k is not millions. I agree, nobody can expect us to splash out big sums of money and to see the debt reduced at the same time. However, considering the players that have been offloaded, £300k does not seem an extortionate amount to ask for. I have no idea how desperate Warnock was for the player involved, but if he was unable to get £300k now, he is not likely to have much money available in the Summer either. I think he will be gone by the begining of June.
He blamed fact we had a game last night on not getting a player in but same time he blamed the agent for not foning back, Other clubs signed players last night while playing so I don't think he was desperately wanting the player! !
i dont think he was desperate either. went for a kip and missed 40 phone calls? people not ringing him back ? and FA putting games on deadline day,
Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:08 pm
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Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:39 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:I do not see the point in spending £2-3 million on overpriced players when the target this season is now 4 wins from the remaining games.
I'm sure Neil Warnock will be backed next season.
What's more,other clubs excessive spending will come under scrutiny, when they fail to go up so they will be less of a threat.
Warnock himself has pretty much said the top two are as good as up so why spend big when only 1 further promotion place is available.
Let's not forget we had one of the biggest and highest paid squads in the Championship, and you only have to look at Aston Villa, to realise that spending big does not guarantee promotion.
I'm sure as soon as we reach 50 points a few of the new revamped development players will get game time and valuable experience.
Joff, The players Warnock wanted now and for next season were about just over a mill for both.
The striker would of been perfect at £300,000
Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:43 pm
wez1927 wrote:People moaning about matty Taylor we offered the same money but he chose bristol over us get over it ffs warnock said he won't over pay for players in the window and we didn't, we signed a few players since Warnock has been here and got rid of the deadwood
Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:45 pm
bluebird58 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:I do not see the point in spending £2-3 million on overpriced players when the target this season is now 4 wins from the remaining games.
I'm sure Neil Warnock will be backed next season.
What's more,other clubs excessive spending will come under scrutiny, when they fail to go up so they will be less of a threat.
Warnock himself has pretty much said the top two are as good as up so why spend big when only 1 further promotion place is available.
Let's not forget we had one of the biggest and highest paid squads in the Championship, and you only have to look at Aston Villa, to realise that spending big does not guarantee promotion.
I'm sure as soon as we reach 50 points a few of the new revamped development players will get game time and valuable experience.
Joff, The players Warnock wanted now and for next season were about just over a mill for both.
The striker would of been perfect at £300,000
It's not the £300,000 that's the problem. It's the £20k a week that his wages would cost. I.e. £3m over 3 years. It's wages not fees that cost.
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Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:02 pm
bluebird58 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:I do not see the point in spending £2-3 million on overpriced players when the target this season is now 4 wins from the remaining games.
I'm sure Neil Warnock will be backed next season.
What's more,other clubs excessive spending will come under scrutiny, when they fail to go up so they will be less of a threat.
Warnock himself has pretty much said the top two are as good as up so why spend big when only 1 further promotion place is available.
Let's not forget we had one of the biggest and highest paid squads in the Championship, and you only have to look at Aston Villa, to realise that spending big does not guarantee promotion.
I'm sure as soon as we reach 50 points a few of the new revamped development players will get game time and valuable experience.
Joff, The players Warnock wanted now and for next season were about just over a mill for both.
The striker would of been perfect at £300,000
It's not the £300,000 that's the problem. It's the £20k a week that his wages would cost. I.e. £3m over 3 years. It's wages not fees that cost.
Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:02 pm
Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
If we were relegated Chris, the debt would be even bigger, we have had nearly three years of hardly any spending due to awful management from the top, now we finally have the right manager he needs backing.
Warnock has stated he does not want massive amounts.
Chris, why don't you be honest you don't like or rate Warnock.
Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:07 pm
binero wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
If we were relegated Chris, the debt would be even bigger, we have had nearly three years of hardly any spending due to awful management from the top, now we finally have the right manager he needs backing.
Warnock has stated he does not want massive amounts.
Chris, why don't you be honest you don't like or rate Warnock.
Annis I think Warnock is the best manager we could have asked for but Warnock stated himself that he thinks the squad he's got was good enough to stay up ,nobody knows that for sure but in Warnock I trust but answer this question do you want more debt by buying players or Debt Free with Tan gone your choice ?
Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:08 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:By the way our saviour our manager missed over 20 calls on deadline day because he needed a nap......
Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:09 pm
goats wrote:I'd like to believe Tan has learnt from his mistakes, notably OGS, if Warnick walks away then it tells me all I need to know about the future if Cardiff city. Another lost generation, no wonder I've grown up in Cardiff hearing this so many times.....Trollope was taking us down and Warnock has clearly saved us this season. You would think Tan would be grateful as another relegation you might aswell shut the place down....
Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:11 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" NEIL WARNOCK SHOULD OF BEEN BACKED BY OUR CLUB "
My Opinion/View
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/02/0 ... -our-club/
By Annis Abraham
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Warnock was today on talk sport and if anyone was listening sounded frustrated and some what upset.
We were not even able to properly compete for a £300,000 striker from Bristol Rovers or a Winger from a Scottish club Aberdeen and it has been stated we could not compete with Bristol City and it has been stated by the Aberdeen manager our bids were not really bids just changing figures around.
Warnock came to Cardiff with a proven record,No puppet/yes man, if you want to keep a manager like Warnock, you have to back him and I fully support Warnock and believe Cardiff City finally have the right manager after years of muppets.
Warnock in November,December and January stated the Cardiff City team needed strengthening now with a winger and a striker,which as we know to get quality players in these positions don't come cheap. Warnock was excited by the January transfers and in his own words "could not wait".
So if you look below Warnock has cut the wage bill even more after Russell Slade cut it considerable & Trollope cut it a little bit more.
Neil Warnock has stated clearly now for this coming Summer "back me or I am off"
Warnock's warning to #CardiffCity owners
"If you don't want to challenge, obviously you can get somebody else in"
Warnock will complete this season with Cardiff City,he keeps his word and he has told people I know that him and Tan will sit down in May again and discuss next season,but wants to be fully guaranteed he will be backed with money for next season to challenge for promotion![]()
My point of all this is,those that say we did not need to strengthen can not moan now how we play or any bad results that may come along or where we end up come May. I for one believe Warnock will keep us well above relegation but he will have to get 100% out of every City player left and hope for no serious injuries etc.
I personally believe as Warnock asked for a striker & a winger it means he felt he needed them & so should of been backed.
You can't continue to manage a club like on fresh air and promises
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/02/0 ... -our-club/![]()
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' ALL NEIL WARNOCKS TRANSFERS IN JANUARY 2017 '
' Six Cardiff Players sent on loan on Tuesday 31st January 2017.
Matt Kennedy has gone to Plymouth on loan till May
Stuart O'keefe joins MK Dons on loan till May
Cardiff City player Emyr Huws joins Ipswich Town on loan
Adam le Fondre joins League One side Bolton Wanderers on loan till May
Cardiff City FC can confirm that goalkeeper Ben Wilson has today joined Rochdale on loan till May
Cardiff City Defender Semi Ajayi joins Championship rivals Rotherham on loan till May
Hull City and Scotland goalkeeper Allan McGregor became Cardiff City's third signing of the January transfer, on loan from Hull City till May.
McGregor joins Ibrahim Meite from non league and Greg Halford a free transfer from Rotherham at Cardiff City Stadium.
Cardiff City to cut the wage bill have released 10 DVP players.
18/01/17 Cardiff City have completed the loan signing of Hull City keeper Allan McGregor on loan until the end of the season
10/01/17 Cardiff City's Tommy Sullivan has joined Colchester United on a trial-basis
09/01/17 Striker Rhys Healey returns today to Cardiff City. from bottom of Division 2 club Newport County.
06/01/17 Manager Neil Warnock has agreed that Tom Adeyemi can turn his loan move to Rotherham United into a full transfer, while Belgian teenager Marco Weymans has joined Cardiff’s sister club KV Kortrijk.
06/01/17 City sign Greg Halford a defender from Rotherham on a free transfer.
06/01/17 Lex Immers leaves by mutual consent, City lost about £250,000 in this deal.
04/01/17 Manager Neil Warnock has snapped up Harrow Borough pace ace Ibrahim Meite, a 20-year-old striker who is known as ‘The Shark’ due to his predatory instincts.
Mette has been signed until the summer of 2018.
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Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:14 pm
Quakerman wrote:Forever Blue wrote:" NEIL WARNOCK SHOULD OF BEEN BACKED BY OUR CLUB "
My Opinion/View
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/02/0 ... -our-club/
By Annis Abraham
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/02/0 ... -our-club/![]()
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Warnock was today on talk sport and if anyone was listening sounded frustrated and some what upset.
We were not even able to properly compete for a £300,000 striker from Bristol Rovers or a Winger from a Scottish club Aberdeen and it has been stated we could not compete with Bristol City and it has been stated by the Aberdeen manager our bids were not really bids just changing figures around.
Warnock came to Cardiff with a proven record,No puppet/yes man, if you want to keep a manager like Warnock, you have to back him and I fully support Warnock and believe Cardiff City finally have the right manager after years of muppets.
Warnock in November,December and January stated the Cardiff City team needed strengthening now with a winger and a striker,which as we know to get quality players in these positions don't come cheap. Warnock was excited by the January transfers and in his own words "could not wait".
So if you look below Warnock has cut the wage bill even more after Russell Slade cut it considerable & Trollope cut it a little bit more.
Neil Warnock has stated clearly now for this coming Summer "back me or I am off"
Warnock's warning to #CardiffCity owners
"If you don't want to challenge, obviously you can get somebody else in"
Warnock will complete this season with Cardiff City,he keeps his word and he has told people I know that him and Tan will sit down in May again and discuss next season,but wants to be fully guaranteed he will be backed with money for next season to challenge for promotion![]()
My point of all this is,those that say we did not need to strengthen can not moan now how we play or any bad results that may come along or where we end up come May. I for one believe Warnock will keep us well above relegation but he will have to get 100% out of every City player left and hope for no serious injuries etc.
I personally believe as Warnock asked for a striker & a winger it means he felt he needed them & so should of been backed.
You can't continue to manage a club like on fresh air and promises
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/02/0 ... -our-club/![]()
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' ALL NEIL WARNOCKS TRANSFERS IN JANUARY 2017 '
' Six Cardiff Players sent on loan on Tuesday 31st January 2017.
Matt Kennedy has gone to Plymouth on loan till May
Stuart O'keefe joins MK Dons on loan till May
Cardiff City player Emyr Huws joins Ipswich Town on loan
Adam le Fondre joins League One side Bolton Wanderers on loan till May
Cardiff City FC can confirm that goalkeeper Ben Wilson has today joined Rochdale on loan till May
Cardiff City Defender Semi Ajayi joins Championship rivals Rotherham on loan till May
Hull City and Scotland goalkeeper Allan McGregor became Cardiff City's third signing of the January transfer, on loan from Hull City till May.
McGregor joins Ibrahim Meite from non league and Greg Halford a free transfer from Rotherham at Cardiff City Stadium.
Cardiff City to cut the wage bill have released 10 DVP players.
18/01/17 Cardiff City have completed the loan signing of Hull City keeper Allan McGregor on loan until the end of the season
10/01/17 Cardiff City's Tommy Sullivan has joined Colchester United on a trial-basis
09/01/17 Striker Rhys Healey returns today to Cardiff City. from bottom of Division 2 club Newport County.
06/01/17 Manager Neil Warnock has agreed that Tom Adeyemi can turn his loan move to Rotherham United into a full transfer, while Belgian teenager Marco Weymans has joined Cardiff’s sister club KV Kortrijk.
06/01/17 City sign Greg Halford a defender from Rotherham on a free transfer.
06/01/17 Lex Immers leaves by mutual consent, City lost about £250,000 in this deal.
04/01/17 Manager Neil Warnock has snapped up Harrow Borough pace ace Ibrahim Meite, a 20-year-old striker who is known as ‘The Shark’ due to his predatory instincts.
Mette has been signed until the summer of 2018.
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Annis
I think saying we have had years of muppet managers is doing a disservice to Malky Makay who got us promotion and Russell Slade who took over in similar circumstances to Neil Warnock, a team that was languishing near the bottom of the league having to cut costs and who got the team to 11th and challenging for the playoffs the following season.
Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:30 pm
Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:35 pm
Forever Blue wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:By the way our saviour our manager missed over 20 calls on deadline day because he needed a nap......
So he's not the saviour this season? ? ?
Very honest man, needed his sleep
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:01 pm
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:02 pm
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:A Question for the posters on here please, Honest answers![]()
Is a squad of 20 players in the Championship plus Frédéric Gounongbe & Ben Amos both not wanted big enough?
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:11 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:A Question for the posters on here please, Honest answers![]()
Is a squad of 20 players in the Championship plus Frédéric Gounongbe & Ben Amos both not wanted big enough?
Yes only 14 can get on the pitch During the game
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:14 pm
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:15 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:A Question for the posters on here please, Honest answers![]()
Is a squad of 20 players in the Championship plus Frédéric Gounongbe & Ben Amos both not wanted big enough?
Yes only 14 can get on the pitch During the game
Wez,
So if City had a few injuries then we would only have a team with 11 players,not even a sub![]()
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:23 pm
fred keenor wrote:If NW walks in the summer we will be releagated next season.
We would have already if Trollope remained in charge.
Gone will be bamba and hoilet
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:49 pm
Forever Blue wrote:A Question for the posters on here please, Honest answers![]()
Is a squad of 20 players in the Championship plus Frédéric Gounongbe & Ben Amos both not wanted big enough?
Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:23 pm
Mr Ducie wrote:Forever Blue wrote:A Question for the posters on here please, Honest answers![]()
Is a squad of 20 players in the Championship plus Frédéric Gounongbe & Ben Amos both not wanted big enough?
i think so yes. We are not in any cup competitions and we have players within the Academy who would be able to make the match day squad, plus the young lad who came on against Fulham.
We are also coming into spring which see's warmer weather and better less heavy pitches. In addition, the fixtures thin out now and we have less Tuesday night games. It's also worth noting that we only need another 14 points to stay up.
My question to you is, of the players released, would they have got game time if they had stayed ?
The answer to that is no, therefore why buy players who in essence are no better that what we have just released.
Give me Rhys Healy over Taylor any day of the week.
Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:39 pm
nubbsy wrote:bluebird58 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Mr Ducie wrote:I do not see the point in spending £2-3 million on overpriced players when the target this season is now 4 wins from the remaining games.
I'm sure Neil Warnock will be backed next season.
What's more,other clubs excessive spending will come under scrutiny, when they fail to go up so they will be less of a threat.
Warnock himself has pretty much said the top two are as good as up so why spend big when only 1 further promotion place is available.
Let's not forget we had one of the biggest and highest paid squads in the Championship, and you only have to look at Aston Villa, to realise that spending big does not guarantee promotion.
I'm sure as soon as we reach 50 points a few of the new revamped development players will get game time and valuable experience.
Joff, The players Warnock wanted now and for next season were about just over a mill for both.
The striker would of been perfect at £300,000
It's not the £300,000 that's the problem. It's the £20k a week that his wages would cost. I.e. £3m over 3 years. It's wages not fees that cost.
Rhys Healey will get more football now and cost a fraction of the price. Young Welsh talent.