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Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:25 am

AfricanBluebird wrote:Firstly it doesn't work.

Secondly it can result is people confessing or giving information which is inaccurate just to stop the torture.. and sending security services down rabbit holes wasting time and money

There have been no reported cases where torturing people has resulted in information to stop an attack.

Case closed.

Its wrong and ineffective.



What a load of shit. How do you know it's never lead to any life saving information?

I wasn't aware that the CIA published their Intel records...

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:39 am

dogfound wrote:
Iroas wrote:And for your information as we all know you have an obsession with anything roathy (or anyone you suspect being him) says. It is not because I say so, it is because fact says so. Under the Bush administration 500 were released from Guantanamo bay, many of which had been tortured.



when we were knee deep in rebrand and you were in the middle with a big spoon. i sorta got it.a jack taking the pee. now your just the board jester mate.


Translated:- "damn he is speaking sense again and made my obsessionary quip look silly, lets lash out again"

If you wish to discuss the topic then be mu guest, but I direct all nonsense, onsession based quips and general all topic waffle to my provate inbox. :thumbright:

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:44 am

nubbsy wrote:
AfricanBluebird wrote:Firstly it doesn't work.

Secondly it can result is people confessing or giving information which is inaccurate just to stop the torture.. and sending security services down rabbit holes wasting time and money

There have been no reported cases where torturing people has resulted in information to stop an attack.

Case closed.

Its wrong and ineffective.



What a load of shit. How do you know it's never lead to any life saving information?

I wasn't aware that the CIA published their Intel records...


Not to mention possibly as a result killing many innocent people if the false intel is acted upon. 9 people have also died at the hands of the Americans at Guantanamo Bay. Judging from the sheer amount of people released from there without charge I would be happy to guess that some of those that died were nothing more than civilians in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:54 am

Iroas wrote:
Translated:- "Damn, he is speaking sense again and made my obsessionary quip look silly, let's lash out again"

If you wish to discuss the topic then be my guest, but I direct all nonsense, obsession based quips and general off topic waffle to my private inbox. :thumbright:


I cannot leave that stand without correcting my horrible typing errors. :old:

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:30 pm

This is even worse than the "global warming" thread..
Some of you need to cancel their Netflix subscription.

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:42 pm

No from me. Torture often leads to lousy information that has just been blurted out because they want the pain to stop, especially the ones that have done nothing wrong who will just make up anything. Also the real terrorists know the west will not kill them or permanently maim them, they know there is a limit to what we can do and that makes it easier for them to just ride it out. Unlike the barbaric regimes they crave and fight for we in the west are little more ethical in the way we treat POWs.

Not worth it.

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:45 pm

I would stop at exracting finger nails maybe a tad waterboarding :thumbup:

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:43 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:No from me. Torture often leads to lousy information that has just been blurted out because they want the pain to stop, especially the ones that have done nothing wrong who will just make up anything. Also the real terrorists know the west will not kill them or permanently maim them, they know there is a limit to what we can do and that makes it easier for them to just ride it out. Unlike the barbaric regimes they crave and fight for we in the west are little more ethical in the way we treat POWs.

Not worth it.



its 9-10. your secret service/fbi, you have what you consider good intel something big is coming in nxt couple of days and intel on a couple of pple that are involved. you arrest them.
it has to be torture?

Re: Is it OK to torture terrorists??

Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:57 pm

dogfound wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:No from me. Torture often leads to lousy information that has just been blurted out because they want the pain to stop, especially the ones that have done nothing wrong who will just make up anything. Also the real terrorists know the west will not kill them or permanently maim them, they know there is a limit to what we can do and that makes it easier for them to just ride it out. Unlike the barbaric regimes they crave and fight for we in the west are little more ethical in the way we treat POWs.

Not worth it.



its 9-10. your secret service/fbi, you have what you consider good intel something big is coming in nxt couple of days and intel on a couple of pple that are involved. you arrest them.
it has to be torture?


And it happens.

Mate of mine was arrested while in the military. He ended up being court marshalled and went to prison. While in prison an investigation went into how the police interrogated him. The investigation revealed that he was not in a steady state of mind to confess. Basically he did not know what was going on as he was put under excessive pressure to talk. His own words through his imprisonment and immediate release was that the investigation made him believe he did it.

It's a no from me.