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Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:46 am

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
tcblue wrote:Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm... :old:

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

I had 5 operations last year and the wards are full of overseas patients,the NHS is on it knees


That's a bit rich slagging off immigrants for putting on the NHS when you had no less than five operations yourself don't you think?

If you spent so much time in hospital perhaps you would also have seen the majority of doctors are not locals :roll:

5 kidney operations I had 3 of them were coz they messed the first two up and the surgeon who messed up was an Indian doctor ,also as a British tax payer it's my right to have health care I've paid for that right over my whole life !

So you're making sweeping generalisations now, are you? :shock:

No its fact he messed the
My op up

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:47 am

nubbsy wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?



I can't see any part of where he suggested that.

I know many English people who have learnt Welsh, wtf has that got to do with being Welsh, is it to help them assimilate into an English speaking country. The millions spent on language facism could be better spent elsewhere.

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:23 pm

Jock wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?



I can't see any part of where he suggested that.

I know many English people who have learnt Welsh, wtf has that got to do with being Welsh, is it to help them assimilate into an English speaking country. The millions spent on language facism could be better spent elsewhere.


The reason we are an English speaking nation is due to English fascism you dullard. Long may we keep the Welsh language alive, as it's the main thing that differentiates us from those across the border.

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:09 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us


What a ridiculous statement to make! Disgusting racism but what do you expect from Wez Garnett :roll:

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:12 pm

Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us


What a ridiculous statement to make! Disgusting racism but what do you expect from Wez Garnett :roll:

How is that racist what a pleb you are typical of mentally ill lefties like you shout racist coz they've lost a debate go and seek help maybe moving to Brussels may help you :lol:

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:13 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us


What a ridiculous statement to make! Disgusting racism but what do you expect from Wez Garnett :roll:

How is that racist what a pleb you are typical of mentally ill lefties like you shout racist coz they've lost a debate go and deal help maybe moving to Brussels may help you :lol:


Youre inciting racial hatred by claiming once race hates another when it is simply not true you knuckle dragging scumbag

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:17 pm

Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us


What a ridiculous statement to make! Disgusting racism but what do you expect from Wez Garnett :roll:

How is that racist what a pleb you are typical of mentally ill lefties like you shout racist coz they've lost a debate go and deal help maybe moving to Brussels may help you :lol:


Youre inciting racial hatred by claiming once race hates another when it is simply not true you knuckle dragging scumbag

Is Eu a race? and your calling me a knuckle dragging scumbag :lol: you lefties are mentally ill I think your smoking too my drugs :lol:

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:34 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us


What a ridiculous statement to make! Disgusting racism but what do you expect from Wez Garnett :roll:

How is that racist what a pleb you are typical of mentally ill lefties like you shout racist coz they've lost a debate go and deal help maybe moving to Brussels may help you :lol:


Youre inciting racial hatred by claiming once race hates another when it is simply not true you knuckle dragging scumbag

Is Eu a race? and your calling me a knuckle dragging scumbag :lol: you lefties are mentally ill I think your smoking too my drugs :lol:


Are Europeans a race? Oh dear.

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:38 pm

Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us


What a ridiculous statement to make! Disgusting racism but what do you expect from Wez Garnett :roll:

How is that racist what a pleb you are typical of mentally ill lefties like you shout racist coz they've lost a debate go and deal help maybe moving to Brussels may help you :lol:


Youre inciting racial hatred by claiming once race hates another when it is simply not true you knuckle dragging scumbag

Is Eu a race? and your calling me a knuckle dragging scumbag :lol: you lefties are mentally ill I think your smoking too my drugs :lol:


Are Europeans a race? Oh dear.

You don't read a question at all do you dopey, did I say Europeans or the Eu hmmmmmm your having a mare son :lol:

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:03 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Lanky Frankie wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us


What a ridiculous statement to make! Disgusting racism but what do you expect from Wez Garnett :roll:

How is that racist what a pleb you are typical of mentally ill lefties like you shout racist coz they've lost a debate go and deal help maybe moving to Brussels may help you :lol:


Youre inciting racial hatred by claiming once race hates another when it is simply not true you knuckle dragging scumbag

Is Eu a race? and your calling me a knuckle dragging scumbag :lol: you lefties are mentally ill I think your smoking too my drugs :lol:


Are Europeans a race? Oh dear.

You don't read a question at all do you dopey, did I say Europeans or the Eu hmmmmmm your having a mare son :lol:


The only one having a mare is you Ald.

You said "the Europeans they hate us" quite what the f**k thats got to go with the EU I dont know?!?!

Re: Immigrants!

Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:32 pm

TC Blue - when you have worked out that people from England at not immigrants, and source your data, shall not be a day too late.

To top it off, it descends into a Janet and John style tit-for-tat...