CARDIFF CITY WILLING TO LISTEN TO OFFERS FOR MAIN STRIKER

£25,000 a week on a 2 year contract and there is no way we will ever be able to sell him either - another player we will end up taking a big hit on. Even if another team wants him on a free he isn't going to want to take the pay cut so we might have to pay some of his contract off to get rid.

Thought I read it was ONE year with the extension if he played so many games not TWO years with a third as an option?
may just be wishful thinking mind

That's what I thought?

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Gareth Staphnill Trollope

I think he was a panic buy ,he's at Cardiff for his wages that's all,I got wba friends and they said when we signed him he doesn't seem bothered no more or he doesn't really try,get rid imo save the wages and save for the summer.

I agree to a certain extent. Lambert was a Paul Trollope signing and he used his previous contact with the player to bring him to South Wales. Managers often operate in the transfer market based on their contacts in the game.

In fairness to the board they tried to back their manager but again were let down by poor judgement by the manager. It is a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation but I agree the days of signing over the hill strikers on stupid money have to end.

Fair summing up and as mentioned earlier we are from the only club who f**** up

Fair summing up and as mentioned earlier we are from the only club who f**** up

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Gareth Staphnill Trollope

I think he was a panic buy ,he's at Cardiff for his wages that's all,I got wba friends and they said when we signed him he doesn't seem bothered no more or he doesn't really try,get rid imo save the wages and save for the summer.

I agree to a certain extent. Lambert was a Paul Trollope signing and he used his previous contact with the player to bring him to South Wales. Managers often operate in the transfer market based on their contacts in the game.

In fairness to the board they tried to back their manager but again were let down by poor judgement by the manager. It is a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation but I agree the days of signing over the hill strikers on stupid money have to end.

agree, have to say though that appointing Trolls in the 1st place was as poor a decision has as been made.they backed him to the tune of millions in wages but would have been better off spending a chunk of that on a manager with real experience.penny wise pound foolish.

This was a gamble that doesn't look like it will pay off.

Let's be honest at the time I and many others thought this might be a good bit of business.

We all knew he was passed his best, but with an injury free season and some decent service he would get us 15 goals (he still might if he gets back in the team)

Unfortunately under Warnock the playing style just doesn't suit him.

Would be a perfect short term signing for someone like Brighton...an impact sub who will score a few goals given decent service.

Swap him for McCormack from Villa - I'm pretty sure NW could sort McCormack out - didn't he manage him at Leeds?

I was being sarcastic

Yeah let's get in another over weight player who doesn't give a shit and can't be bothered to train.
Besides that, you really think Villa would want Lambert?

He won't be missed

At the time it looked like a terrible signing, no ifs or buts about it.

If you follow or keep abreast of Football in general people would have known he had been far from his best for a long time and not prolific since the 2011/12 season.

His goals to game ratio during his stints at Liverpool and WBA was 4 in 62, goals to games ratio thats 1 in every 15 and a half games.

There is a plan that is lacking at Cardiff City. That goes from playing style, to recruitment, to managerial appointments to transfer funds. Nobody has any idea what is going on. The club needs rebuilding, laying of foundations and a plan put in place to grow long term. 69 year old manager, buying has beens (Halford, Chamakh, Lambert), no idea ambitions or transfer kitty, dated long ball style.

What Cardiff needs is a style of football that does not change due to a manager, otherwise everytime a manager leaves you face a scenario where not only does the club ethos change but so does half the squad as they do not fit the new style. It is costly, counter productive and stops progress in its tracks often finding the club back to square one.

Investment in youth is a priority, blooding of youngsters. A young manager with fresh bright ideas prepared to build something long term. The club can then have a common goal and all be singing off the same hymn sheet. I know Warnock is popular but at his age he shouldnt be seen as someone who should stay past this season, he only has one or two left in him. If Tan backs him and then he retires the year after, what then? What if the new guy doesn't like those players or the style? Square one again.

Cardiff City are willing to listen to offers for striker Rickie Lambert during the January transfer window, reports the Daily Record.

24/01/17


Football League

Lambert, a summer signing from West Bromwich Albion, was brought in by former Cardiff boss Paul Trollope on Deadline Day.

The ex-England international has found his chances limited under new Bluebirds’ boss, Neil Warnock. Improved performances from Kenneth Zohore have seen Lambert fall out of favour.


Warnock has hinted that the club would only allow Lambert, who has four goals in 14 league starts this season, to leave on a permanent basis.

Cardiff are currently in the hunt for Aberdeen winger Jonny Hayes, and Warnock confirmed players will have to leave the club to free up funds for transfers.

Warnock’s side moved up to 16th in the Sky Bet Championship, following Saturday’s victory over Burton Albion, as they continue their rise away from the relegation zone.

There is a plan that is lacking at Cardiff City. That goes from playing style, to recruitment, to managerial appointments to transfer funds. Nobody has any idea what is going on. The club needs rebuilding, laying of foundations and a plan put in place to grow long term. 69 year old manager, buying has beens (Halford, Chamakh, Lambert), no idea ambitions or transfer kitty, dated long ball style.

What Cardiff needs is a style of football that does not change due to a manager, otherwise everytime a manager leaves you face a scenario where not only does the club ethos change but so does half the squad as they do not fit the new style. It is costly, counter productive and stops progress in its tracks often finding the club back to square one.

Investment in youth is a priority, blooding of youngsters. A young manager with fresh bright ideas prepared to build something long term. The club can then have a common goal and all be singing off the same hymn sheet. I know Warnock is popular but at his age he shouldnt be seen as someone who should stay past this season, he only has one or two left in him. If Tan backs him and then he retires the year after, what then? What if the new guy doesn't like those players or the style? Square one again.

Hmmm,thanks Roathie

you've got a real grasp of whats going on.

I think its always hard to judge players from a previous management team.

Warnocks team ethics are far different from Trollope and I expected Warnock to look past players like Lambert, Noone, John and a few others.

The way Warnock has set the team up and the results he has had in the past few weeks prove he is right. We cannot however keep blaming the club. When Lambert signed everyone was saying he'd rip this league apart and get 20+ goals, and I'm glad Ken is getting game time because he is playing better than Lambert.

I will hope we can attract even for a loan a half decent striker.

There is a plan that is lacking at Cardiff City. That goes from playing style, to recruitment, to managerial appointments to transfer funds. Nobody has any idea what is going on. The club needs rebuilding, laying of foundations and a plan put in place to grow long term. 69 year old manager, buying has beens (Halford, Chamakh, Lambert), no idea ambitions or transfer kitty, dated long ball style.

What Cardiff needs is a style of football that does not change due to a manager, otherwise everytime a manager leaves you face a scenario where not only does the club ethos change but so does half the squad as they do not fit the new style. It is costly, counter productive and stops progress in its tracks often finding the club back to square one.

Investment in youth is a priority, blooding of youngsters. A young manager with fresh bright ideas prepared to build something long term. The club can then have a common goal and all be singing off the same hymn sheet. I know Warnock is popular but at his age he shouldnt be seen as someone who should stay past this season, he only has one or two left in him. If Tan backs him and then he retires the year after, what then? What if the new guy doesn't like those players or the style? Square one again.

Hmmm,thanks Roathie

you've got a real grasp of whats going on.

You disagree then?

How can you think it is a good long term idea to have short term plans? It is contradictive in every sense. Or are you just disagreeing because of whom you think said it rather than the obviously spot on content?

Thought I read it was ONE year with the extension if he played so many games not TWO years with a third as an option?
may just be wishful thinking mind

Good Morning Annis, I posted this yesterday and a few others thought it correct, have you any insight into these figures or any way of finding out the actual details .

Thought I read it was ONE year with the extension if he played so many games not TWO years with a third as an option?
may just be wishful thinking mind

Good Morning Annis, I posted this yesterday and a few others thought it correct, have you any insight into these figures or any way of finding out the actual details .

Morning Jules, I just rang Rob Philips from BBC, he believes its a two year contract with the option of three years if Lambert makes so many appearances.

Bloody hell!!!

Bloody hell!!!

Thats what I said, cost us a fortune

Bloody hell!!!

Thats what I said, cost us a fortune

need to hope someone can take himoff the wage bill then and sharpish cos we cant afford to be paying any sub 25k a week, if we are paying that amount of money they need to be scoring every week pretty much and dominating games for us lambert does neither

There is a plan that is lacking at Cardiff City. That goes from playing style, to recruitment, to managerial appointments to transfer funds. Nobody has any idea what is going on. The club needs rebuilding, laying of foundations and a plan put in place to grow long term. 69 year old manager, buying has beens (Halford, Chamakh, Lambert), no idea ambitions or transfer kitty, dated long ball style.

What Cardiff needs is a style of football that does not change due to a manager, otherwise everytime a manager leaves you face a scenario where not only does the club ethos change but so does half the squad as they do not fit the new style. It is costly, counter productive and stops progress in its tracks often finding the club back to square one.

Investment in youth is a priority, blooding of youngsters. A young manager with fresh bright ideas prepared to build something long term. The club can then have a common goal and all be singing off the same hymn sheet. I know Warnock is popular but at his age he shouldnt be seen as someone who should stay past this season, he only has one or two left in him. If Tan backs him and then he retires the year after, what then? What if the new guy doesn't like those players or the style? Square one again.

Hmmm,thanks Roathie

you've got a real grasp of whats going on.

You disagree then?

How can you think it is a good long term idea to have short term plans? It is contradictive in every sense. Or are you just disagreeing because of whom you think said it rather than the obviously spot on content?

You can re-invent your ID as many times as you like but you can't hide your style.You been regurgitating this crap on this board since you were Canton Magic.You are just a silly little Jack spunk trumpet-and everybody can see through you.Don't you think its time you stopped,I mean,you've been at this in one guise or another for over 5yrs now.Trolls have come and gone on this board,usually jacks on a wind up but they all seem to grow out of it or find something else to do.I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you because if your right in the head then I don't wanna be.

Bloody hell!!!

Thats what I said, cost us a fortune

need to hope someone can take himoff the wage bill then and sharpish cos we cant afford to be paying any sub 25k a week, if we are paying that amount of money they need to be scoring every week pretty much and dominating games for us lambert does neither

Reza, Lambert needs to get on the pitch and score every other week.

What the hell were the committee thinking of giving him this contract?

Bloody hell!!!

Thats what I said, cost us a fortune

need to hope someone can take himoff the wage bill then and sharpish cos we cant afford to be paying any sub 25k a week, if we are paying that amount of money they need to be scoring every week pretty much and dominating games for us lambert does neither

Why would he do that ? Not many people willing to give away several million pounds which is what it would amount to. He could have turned into Cardiff City's best ever signing and it would have still been a f*cking awful deal. Nobody was giving Rickie Lambert anything like that sort of deal.

We should have gone no more than 10 - 15 grand per week for the remaining 40 weeks of this season. We'd be cutting our losses now and it would still be a very painful loss. 2 possibly 3 year deal was simply criminal.

It's going to seriously affect our short and medium term investment. If that in turn that results in Warnock leaving, then I think the recent revival in supporter well being will go with him. Never mind leaving for Brighton shortly - looking forward to it.

Bloody hell!!!

Thats what I said, cost us a fortune

need to hope someone can take himoff the wage bill then and sharpish cos we cant afford to be paying any sub 25k a week, if we are paying that amount of money they need to be scoring every week pretty much and dominating games for us lambert does neither

Reza, Lambert needs to get on the pitch and score every other week.

What the hell were the committee thinking of giving him this contract?

Spot on Annis i cant believe we give him that much a week,what a waste of money that is, any idea what the fee was?

we are going to struggle to get rid if we want to recoup a fee and shift them wages, cant see many teams being as stupid as we have been in the past.

this is what happens when you have people in charge who have no clue how to run a football club

You can re-invent your ID as many times as you like but you can't hide your style.You been regurgitating this crap on this board since you were Canton Magic.You are just a silly little Jack spunk trumpet-and everybody can see through you.Don't you think its time you stopped,I mean,you've been at this in one guise or another for over 5yrs now.Trolls have come and gone on this board,usually jacks on a wind up but they all seem to grow out of it or find something else to do.I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you because if your right in the head then I don't wanna be.

Who I am was not the discussion, nor is it important. People can think I am Roathy, Canton, Santa Claus, or a combination of all - it doesn't bother me. The fact you say I have been here for 5 years suggests I am indeed not a troll. How anybody can say my content is trolling is either an idiot or in extreme denial.

What we are discussing is my point. If you can tell me why I am wrong in thinking that Cardiff does not have a long term plan and is currently relying on short term goals with no structure or long term thinking, then I would be very interested to hear. Except we both know I am correct, which is why your default mechanism is to scream troll rather than accept I am speaking the truth

You can re-invent your ID as many times as you like but you can't hide your style.You been regurgitating this crap on this board since you were Canton Magic.You are just a silly little Jack spunk trumpet-and everybody can see through you.Don't you think its time you stopped,I mean,you've been at this in one guise or another for over 5yrs now.Trolls have come and gone on this board,usually jacks on a wind up but they all seem to grow out of it or find something else to do.I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you because if your right in the head then I don't wanna be.

Who I am was not the discussion, nor is it important. People can think I am Roathy, Canton, Santa Claus, or a combination of all - it doesn't bother me. The fact you say I have been here for 5 years suggests I am indeed not a troll. How anybody can say my content is trolling is either an idiot or in extreme denial.

What we are discussing is my point. If you can tell me why I am wrong in thinking that Cardiff does not have a long term plan and is currently relying on short term goals with no structure or long term thinking, then I would be very interested to hear. Except we both know I am correct, which is why your default mechanism is to scream troll rather than accept I am speaking the truth

I have no idea if Cardiff have any long term plan or not, as Vinnie does'nt tell me these sort of things. Obviously you know better, and so I guess you are in personal contact with those at the top and so we have to take your word for it. As you appear to know more than us mere mortals, perhaps you could ask Tan how much money will be available for us to spend in the Summer.

I have no idea if Cardiff have any long term plan or not, as Vinnie does'nt tell me these sort of things. Obviously you know better, and so I guess you are in personal contact with those at the top and so we have to take your word for it. As you appear to know more than us mere mortals, perhaps you could ask Tan how much money will be available for us to spend in the Summer.

That was my point, nobody knows. The club needs to be in unison from the board to the manager to the fans, all knowing what the plan and goal is, Warnock doesn't even have any idea what he has to spend or what the clubs ambitions are and has stated that publicly. A young manager with a long term plan, youth teams playing in the same way as the first team in order to slip seamlessly in when needed, investment in youth for not only resale purposes so that the team can grow for a number of years together etc Again common sense is ruling here rather than claiming inside information, a 69 year old manager signing players in their mid thirties is not a long term plan. Cardiff style changes with every single appointment and as a result so does the personnel, this is a costly exercise and of course stunts any continuity. The purchase of Lambert exemplifies this perfectly. If you are honest then there isnn't much to disagree with but I am sure you will try.

I have no idea if Cardiff have any long term plan or not, as Vinnie does'nt tell me these sort of things. Obviously you know better, and so I guess you are in personal contact with those at the top and so we have to take your word for it. As you appear to know more than us mere mortals, perhaps you could ask Tan how much money will be available for us to spend in the Summer.

That was my point, nobody knows. The club needs to be in unison from the board to the manager to the fans, all knowing what the plan and goal is, Warnock doesn't even have any idea what he has to spend or what the clubs ambitions are and has stated that publicly. A young manager with a long term plan, youth teams playing in the same way as the first team in order to slip seamlessly in when needed, investment in youth for not only resale purposes so that the team can grow for a number of years together etc Again common sense is ruling here rather than claiming inside information, a 69 year old manager signing players in their mid thirties is not a long term plan. Cardiff style changes with every single appointment and as a result so does the personnel, this is a costly exercise and of course stunts any continuity. The purchase of Lambert exemplifies this perfectly. If you are honest then there isnn't much to disagree with but I am sure you will try.

So you agree that you are expressing an opinion, which is fair enough. This forum is all about opinions, but that does'nt make your opinion any more valid than anyone elses. You may be right, you may be wrong, it is just one person's opinion. Tan may well have a long term plan, and part one may be to stay in the Championship in the short term. The appointment of Warnock may be part of that short term objective, and who knows if this is part of a 5 year plan or if his plans do not actually stretch further than the end of the season. I am sure there are plenty of clubs in similar situations.

So you agree that you are expressing an opinion, which is fair enough. This forum is all about opinions, but that does'nt make your opinion any more valid than anyone elses. You may be right, you may be wrong, it is just one person's opinion. Tan may well have a long term plan, and part one may be to stay in the Championship in the short term. The appointment of Warnock may be part of that short term objective, and who knows if this is part of a 5 year plan or if his plans do not actually stretch further than the end of the season. I am sure there are plenty of clubs in similar situations.

An opinion based on most probable scenarios and factual events yes. But an opinion all the same. I am not saying Cardiff is different to most clubs please don't be so defensive. What I am saying is, to stop all this uncertainty the club needs to be build from the ground up. For too long the club have looked at short term goals (Hasselbaink, Fowler era, season ticket scam to spend on players the club couldn't afford to signing aging managers and players of today). To get the crowds buzzing again the pn everybody needs to be clear the direction the club is going. Nathan Blake agreed and said a similar thing on the radio last week. There just doesn't seem to be any tangiable long term thinking.

So you agree that you are expressing an opinion, which is fair enough. This forum is all about opinions, but that does'nt make your opinion any more valid than anyone elses. You may be right, you may be wrong, it is just one person's opinion. Tan may well have a long term plan, and part one may be to stay in the Championship in the short term. The appointment of Warnock may be part of that short term objective, and who knows if this is part of a 5 year plan or if his plans do not actually stretch further than the end of the season. I am sure there are plenty of clubs in similar situations.

An opinion based on most probable scenarios and factual events yes. But an opinion all the same. I am not saying Cardiff is different to most clubs please don't be so defensive. What I am saying is, to stop all this uncertainty the club needs to be build from the ground up. For too long the club have looked at short term goals (Hasselbaink, Fowler era, season ticket scam to spend on players the club couldn't afford to signing aging managers and players of today). To get the crowds buzzing again the pn everybody needs to be clear the direction the club is going. Nathan Blake agreed and said a similar thing on the radio last week. There just doesn't seem to be any tangiable long term thinking.

nice avatar . your common sense just like your head is in the clouds
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So you agree that you are expressing an opinion, which is fair enough. This forum is all about opinions, but that does'nt make your opinion any more valid than anyone elses. You may be right, you may be wrong, it is just one person's opinion. Tan may well have a long term plan, and part one may be to stay in the Championship in the short term. The appointment of Warnock may be part of that short term objective, and who knows if this is part of a 5 year plan or if his plans do not actually stretch further than the end of the season. I am sure there are plenty of clubs in similar situations.

An opinion based on most probable scenarios and factual events yes. But an opinion all the same. I am not saying Cardiff is different to most clubs please don't be so defensive. What I am saying is, to stop all this uncertainty the club needs to be build from the ground up. For too long the club have looked at short term goals (Hasselbaink, Fowler era, season ticket scam to spend on players the club couldn't afford to signing aging managers and players of today). To get the crowds buzzing again the pn everybody needs to be clear the direction the club is going. Nathan Blake agreed and said a similar thing on the radio last week. There just doesn't seem to be any tangiable long term thinking.

That's ok then, we have established that this is an opinion rather than someone having access to inside information that is not available to all the other forum users. I expect everyone has their own opinions, some that may be the same as yours and some that will differ. Perhaps now is a good time to actually continue with the topic of this thread, which relates to a striker we have at the club who may be surplus to requirements.

So you agree that you are expressing an opinion, which is fair enough. This forum is all about opinions, but that does'nt make your opinion any more valid than anyone elses. You may be right, you may be wrong, it is just one person's opinion. Tan may well have a long term plan, and part one may be to stay in the Championship in the short term. The appointment of Warnock may be part of that short term objective, and who knows if this is part of a 5 year plan or if his plans do not actually stretch further than the end of the season. I am sure there are plenty of clubs in similar situations.

An opinion based on most probable scenarios and factual events yes. But an opinion all the same. I am not saying Cardiff is different to most clubs please don't be so defensive. What I am saying is, to stop all this uncertainty the club needs to be build from the ground up. For too long the club have looked at short term goals (Hasselbaink, Fowler era, season ticket scam to spend on players the club couldn't afford to signing aging managers and players of today). To get the crowds buzzing again the pn everybody needs to be clear the direction the club is going. Nathan Blake agreed and said a similar thing on the radio last week. There just doesn't seem to be any tangiable long term thinking.

nice avatar . your common sense just like your head is in the clouds
http://www.woodwardenglish.com/have-you ... m-meaning/

So you believe signing the likes of Lambert is a long term plan then? As is changing managers and playing styles frequently?... Or are you just being silly due to whom you believe said the opposite?