Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:54 pm
polo wrote:Overthemoon wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Do mobile camaras work in the dark? Last night van parked in regular place but in pitch dark so could not be seen until late even on strait Rd And it was a poorly lit rd as well. Thought had to be visible or signs saying in operation on that Rd?
Allan, the simple answer is yes they do work in the dark and in many areas the so-called 'Safety Camera Units' are increasingly seen parked up and operating at night. Gwent seem to be the biggest operators currently, although their 'partnership' with South Wales means that that area is once again seeing an increase of use. I am aware of someone being caught on Chepstow Road in Newport at 9:50pm on a Sunday night. Apparently, that unit was not lit up but it was in a reguularly frequented spot
As for warning signs, the Law is clear the signs have to be placed (usually permanent) to say that cameras may be operating in that area. Sites supposedly have certain qualifying criteria with which they are chosen and the units are generally 'regularly' at those spots. I believe they cannot currently operate at 'random' locations not previously agreed with the appropriate authorities/groups
What is the law governing safety cameras, speed limits and safety camera signs?
The law does not require drivers to be warned about the presence of safety cameras. However, the Government wants drivers to know both the speed limit on any given stretch of road, and also that camera enforcement is taking place.
Drivers sometimes think that a speeding penalty is not valid if the route is not signed correctly with safety camera warning signs. This is not the case. The only signing that is required in law for a speeding offence to be valid is that the speed limit of the road must be properly signed. The placing or visibility of speed camera warning signs has no bearing on the enforcement of offences detected by safety cameras and does not provide any mitigation of or defence for an alleged speeding offence.
http://www.ukmotorists.com/speed_camera_faq.asp
Perhaps the next time they want to set speed cameras up in the dark they should go around Aluns house personally and give him at least 48 hours notice
Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:19 pm
polo wrote:Overthemoon wrote:polo wrote:Overthemoon wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Do mobile camaras work in the dark? Last night van parked in regular place but in pitch dark so could not be seen until late even on strait Rd And it was a poorly lit rd as well. Thought had to be visible or signs saying in operation on that Rd?
Allan, the simple answer is yes they do work in the dark and in many areas the so-called 'Safety Camera Units' are increasingly seen parked up and operating at night. Gwent seem to be the biggest operators currently, although their 'partnership' with South Wales means that that area is once again seeing an increase of use. I am aware of someone being caught on Chepstow Road in Newport at 9:50pm on a Sunday night. Apparently, that unit was not lit up but it was in a reguularly frequented spot
As for warning signs, the Law is clear the signs have to be placed (usually permanent) to say that cameras may be operating in that area. Sites supposedly have certain qualifying criteria with which they are chosen and the units are generally 'regularly' at those spots. I believe they cannot currently operate at 'random' locations not previously agreed with the appropriate authorities/groups
What is the law governing safety cameras, speed limits and safety camera signs?
The law does not require drivers to be warned about the presence of safety cameras. However, the Government wants drivers to know both the speed limit on any given stretch of road, and also that camera enforcement is taking place.
Drivers sometimes think that a speeding penalty is not valid if the route is not signed correctly with safety camera warning signs. This is not the case. The only signing that is required in law for a speeding offence to be valid is that the speed limit of the road must be properly signed. The placing or visibility of speed camera warning signs has no bearing on the enforcement of offences detected by safety cameras and does not provide any mitigation of or defence for an alleged speeding offence.
http://www.ukmotorists.com/speed_camera_faq.asp
Perhaps the next time they want to set speed cameras up in the dark they should go around Aluns house personally and give him at least 48 hours notice
It's obvious that the technology exists and works in the dark, else the speed camera vans wouldn't be parked up on the roadside!
Common sense really
Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:09 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:49 pm
polo wrote:The moral of the story is you shouldn't be speeding around dimly lit roads regardless of wether the police van is parked there or not.
Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:51 pm
Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:34 am
Overthemoon wrote:polo wrote:Overthemoon wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Do mobile camaras work in the dark? Last night van parked in regular place but in pitch dark so could not be seen until late even on strait Rd And it was a poorly lit rd as well. Thought had to be visible or signs saying in operation on that Rd?
Allan, the simple answer is yes they do work in the dark and in many areas the so-called 'Safety Camera Units' are increasingly seen parked up and operating at night. Gwent seem to be the biggest operators currently, although their 'partnership' with South Wales means that that area is once again seeing an increase of use. I am aware of someone being caught on Chepstow Road in Newport at 9:50pm on a Sunday night. Apparently, that unit was not lit up but it was in a reguularly frequented spot
As for warning signs, the Law is clear the signs have to be placed (usually permanent) to say that cameras may be operating in that area. Sites supposedly have certain qualifying criteria with which they are chosen and the units are generally 'regularly' at those spots. I believe they cannot currently operate at 'random' locations not previously agreed with the appropriate authorities/groups
What is the law governing safety cameras, speed limits and safety camera signs?
The law does not require drivers to be warned about the presence of safety cameras. However, the Government wants drivers to know both the speed limit on any given stretch of road, and also that camera enforcement is taking place.
Drivers sometimes think that a speeding penalty is not valid if the route is not signed correctly with safety camera warning signs. This is not the case. The only signing that is required in law for a speeding offence to be valid is that the speed limit of the road must be properly signed. The placing or visibility of speed camera warning signs has no bearing on the enforcement of offences detected by safety cameras and does not provide any mitigation of or defence for an alleged speeding offence.
http://www.ukmotorists.com/speed_camera_faq.asp
Perhaps the next time they want to set speed cameras up in the dark they should go around Aluns house personally and give him at least 48 hours notice
It's obvious that the technology exists and works in the dark, else the speed camera vans wouldn't be parked up on the roadside!
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:11 am
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:08 am
pembroke allan wrote:polo wrote:The moral of the story is you shouldn't be speeding around dimly lit roads regardless of wether the police van is parked there or not.
Correct but I was in fact driving in opposite direction so cam not facing me? considering I drive around 30k miles a year through countless speed zones daily, and not done for speeding that shows how fast i normally drive?
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:38 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote::lol:![]()
This has made my day!
Why ?
So the cops say, 'lets go out tonight and set up the mobile speed camera'.
So they get their van ready, pack it up, drive off and position it, get the gear ready and set the camera up and along comes Mr. Allan trundling along and the one cop says to the other, 'shit do these things work in the dark'? The other replies, 'I don't know, nobody's ever thought of that. All these years wasted'!
Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:19 pm
polo wrote:pembroke allan wrote:polo wrote:The moral of the story is you shouldn't be speeding around dimly lit roads regardless of wether the police van is parked there or not.
Correct but I was in fact driving in opposite direction so cam not facing me? considering I drive around 30k miles a year through countless speed zones daily, and not done for speeding that shows how fast i normally drive?
Save it for the judge Alan![]()