Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:47 am
wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Philippine blue wrote:I would give him another year on reduced wages with an option of a second year if he is still doing the business for us. In my eyes he is a City legend and should get a testimonial. Happy new year everyone![]()
It will be a dark, dark day for me if he doesn't get a testimonial.
Hello Peter
Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:47 am
eddiep wrote:Peter Whittingham is a Cardiff City LEGEND
Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:25 am
Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:51 am
Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:06 am
Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:09 pm
Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:38 pm
Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:02 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:14 pm
polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:32 pm
Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:55 pm
polo wrote:Who said anything about putting food on the table you whopper?
At the end of the day if he can earn half a million pound a year (10k a week) for another 3 years why take the risk of getting a serious injury when there's a possible million and half on the line?
He's loyal to us it's time the club showed some loyalty back
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:13 pm
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:15 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:polo wrote:Who said anything about putting food on the table you whopper?
At the end of the day if he can earn half a million pound a year (10k a week) for another 3 years why take the risk of getting a serious injury when there's a possible million and half on the line?
He's loyal to us it's time the club showed some loyalty back
It was actually you that said its . His . Livliehood
Im just Stating. His livliehood is assured imo
We have been loyal to him aswell how many contracts has he . Had from us over the, last 10 years
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:21 pm
llan bluebird wrote:I am firmly in the Whitts is a legend camp.
But, we live in a capitalist system and we don't wan't to overpay for anything. 5 years ago Malky built his team philosophy around Whitts freakish (by championship standards) talent. The premier league is a league for elite athletes as well as good footballers, Whitts doesn't fit that mould, he is just an exceptional footballer. During those years he deserved the big contracts, we were promoted of his talent. This was a major step up in responsibility from the free inside right role DJ gave him.
Football has moved on already from the malky/Mourinho anti football. We were a no mistake, set play team who now make loads of mistakes.
The big earners are slow, Whitts, Gunnar & Lambert. When available they must play, but we need to break this up.
Millionaire Whitts must decide if he want to find another million pound a season contract elsewhere or settle for vastly reduced terms. I am guessing he earns a million pound a season, with that in mind i wouldn't offer him more than £300k.
My guess he would take that with an eye on future coaching. Wez is sort of right, we do need to find his replacement, but we shouldn't expect him to be like Whitts but better because they only live in the premier league. Those with the potential like Deli Alli went to a top 6 premier league club for £5 million, we can't gamble like that anymore.
I would offer vastly reduced terms to Whitts, sell Gunnarson (cue outrage) and beg Lambert to retire. We need at least 2 attacking midfielders and 2 championship strikers who can play more than one game a month.
We will see (midfielder) Whitts score his 100th goal !!!!!!!
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:56 pm
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:06 pm
llan bluebird wrote:Because he has no resale value.
He'll be 33 in september and you have to play a certain system to maximize his abilities. My gut feeling is Warnock will want more athleticism in the middle but i wouldn't be surprised if gunnar is sold over the next month though.
Your agent ask for as much money as you can get away with, its supply an demand. He is on the wrong end of the bell curve, but is not a daft lad and must know his value.
How many clubs fans would be happy if your club just acquired a 33 year old Whitts for two years on a million pound a year ?
He is a top player, but as kids coming through only get the big deals when the sharks are circling and they could be off for relatively little, he doesn't necessarily need to be the top earner.
There is no way Gunnarson is worth more than him as a player, but they are assets and need to be treated as assets. One will be 28 the other 33 at the start of the season. Which one would you think the is more interested in signing for another 18 months ? The one who can dictate the terms and conditions, the 27 year old.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:24 pm
polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:32 pm
polo wrote:Who said anything about putting food on the table you whopper?
At the end of the day if he can earn half a million pound a year (10k a week) for another 3 years why take the risk of getting a serious injury when there's a possible million and half on the line?
He's loyal to us it's time the club showed some loyalty back
Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:07 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:55 am
polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Surely it's also in the clubs interest to get one of its (still) best performers tied down to a new deal rather than let in run down and he can get rewarded elsewhere?
The club made a pigs ear of signing replacements for Hudson and Marshall and Whitts will be just as, if not more, difficult to replace.
Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:01 am
Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:18 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Surely it's also in the clubs interest to get one of its (still) best performers tied down to a new deal rather than let in run down and he can get rewarded elsewhere?
The club made a pigs ear of signing replacements for Hudson and Marshall and Whitts will be just as, if not more, difficult to replace.
No you are wrong. It is NOT in club's long term interests to award a contract that doesn't offer value for money. We have been here a million times previously giving contracts which weigh the club down for years. At 33 it is unlikely Whitts will remain as affective in the coming years and his wages could be used elsewhere.
At best I would offer a 1 year contract of £5kpw with high bonus incentives for appearances, goals and assists. Whether PW would accept this is up for debate but that would be my absolute limit.
Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:13 pm
polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Surely it's also in the clubs interest to get one of its (still) best performers tied down to a new deal rather than let in run down and he can get rewarded elsewhere?
The club made a pigs ear of signing replacements for Hudson and Marshall and Whitts will be just as, if not more, difficult to replace.
No you are wrong. It is NOT in club's long term interests to award a contract that doesn't offer value for money. We have been here a million times previously giving contracts which weigh the club down for years. At 33 it is unlikely Whitts will remain as affective in the coming years and his wages could be used elsewhere.
At best I would offer a 1 year contract of £5kpw with high bonus incentives for appearances, goals and assists. Whether PW would accept this is up for debate but that would be my absolute limit.
5k a weekDebate over.
Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:52 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Surely it's also in the clubs interest to get one of its (still) best performers tied down to a new deal rather than let in run down and he can get rewarded elsewhere?
The club made a pigs ear of signing replacements for Hudson and Marshall and Whitts will be just as, if not more, difficult to replace.
No you are wrong. It is NOT in club's long term interests to award a contract that doesn't offer value for money. We have been here a million times previously giving contracts which weigh the club down for years. At 33 it is unlikely Whitts will remain as affective in the coming years and his wages could be used elsewhere.
At best I would offer a 1 year contract of £5kpw with high bonus incentives for appearances, goals and assists. Whether PW would accept this is up for debate but that would be my absolute limit.
Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:41 pm
dogfound wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Surely it's also in the clubs interest to get one of its (still) best performers tied down to a new deal rather than let in run down and he can get rewarded elsewhere?
The club made a pigs ear of signing replacements for Hudson and Marshall and Whitts will be just as, if not more, difficult to replace.
No you are wrong. It is NOT in club's long term interests to award a contract that doesn't offer value for money. We have been here a million times previously giving contracts which weigh the club down for years. At 33 it is unlikely Whitts will remain as affective in the coming years and his wages could be used elsewhere.
At best I would offer a 1 year contract of £5kpw with high bonus incentives for appearances, goals and assists. Whether PW would accept this is up for debate but that would be my absolute limit.
wind up
Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:22 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:dogfound wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Surely it's also in the clubs interest to get one of its (still) best performers tied down to a new deal rather than let in run down and he can get rewarded elsewhere?
The club made a pigs ear of signing replacements for Hudson and Marshall and Whitts will be just as, if not more, difficult to replace.
No you are wrong. It is NOT in club's long term interests to award a contract that doesn't offer value for money. We have been here a million times previously giving contracts which weigh the club down for years. At 33 it is unlikely Whitts will remain as affective in the coming years and his wages could be used elsewhere.
At best I would offer a 1 year contract of £5kpw with high bonus incentives for appearances, goals and assists. Whether PW would accept this is up for debate but that would be my absolute limit.
wind up
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This is written on the last day of the year and easily takes the award of the most stupid post of 2016.
It easily beats wez's - Abdel Tarrat is world class and - we can still make the play offs this season.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:28 pm
wez1927 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:dogfound wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:I agree Whitts is a club legend and should be rewarded with a testimonial for his 10 years service to CCFC.
However, when it comes to offering a new contract the club is right to hold its cards for now. We are 3 places above the relegation spots and it is still a possibility we will go down. If that happens come next May then giving PW a contract of say £10000pw now might suddenly seem like more reckless financial planning.
It is far more sensible to wait until our future is a little more certain before committing to another large contract extension for a player who is now 32 years of age.
You could put a relegation clause in.
Shouldn't be left dangling, it's his livliehood at the end of the day, (not that I think we would) but he could just down tools for the next 5 months in case he gets a serious injury.
If they are going to offer him a new contract in the summer then out of respect for his time served it should be on the table now.
A relegation clause could be added providing Whitts agreed the club can't just impose one. Your reasons are all well and good but the club have to balance the books and agreement would heavily depend on what PW would want in the way of salary and other perks.
I'm sorry but the priority here is the club not Peter Whittingham's lifestyle. He has been well rewarded for his exploits in previous contracts and he shouldn't receive an inflated contract on the back of being a club legend. My original point still stands in that the club must ensure they don't waste money again on a contract which doesn't offer value for money.
Surely it's also in the clubs interest to get one of its (still) best performers tied down to a new deal rather than let in run down and he can get rewarded elsewhere?
The club made a pigs ear of signing replacements for Hudson and Marshall and Whitts will be just as, if not more, difficult to replace.
No you are wrong. It is NOT in club's long term interests to award a contract that doesn't offer value for money. We have been here a million times previously giving contracts which weigh the club down for years. At 33 it is unlikely Whitts will remain as affective in the coming years and his wages could be used elsewhere.
At best I would offer a 1 year contract of £5kpw with high bonus incentives for appearances, goals and assists. Whether PW would accept this is up for debate but that would be my absolute limit.
wind up
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This is written on the last day of the year and easily takes the award of the most stupid post of 2016.
It easily beats wez's - Abdel Tarrat is world class and - we can still make the play offs this season.
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He is world class on his day you don't get to play for access Milan if your shit ffs