VOTE: ' Vincent Tan or Jacks American Shareholders? '

I'm not really qualified to comment but I will say that American owners are generally damp squibs, my own team being the obvious example, along with Sunderland.

What I would say is that I could never imagine an American owner lacking the class and/or respect to change a clubs traditional colours from blue to red. For me, that ranks as one of the most disrespectful actions (probably THE most disrespectful action) that modern day football has bought us.

For that alone, the contempt that Tan showed to your club and it's history and traditions, makes him far worse than the Swansea owners and IMO, worse than any other owners.

As I said, I'm not really qualified but that is how I view Tan.

I'm not really qualified to comment but I will say that American owners are generally damp squibs, my own team being the obvious example, along with Sunderland.

What I would say is that I could never imagine an American owner lacking the class and/or respect to change a clubs traditional colours from blue to red. For me, that ranks as one of the most disrespectful actions (probably THE most disrespectful action) that modern day football has bought us.

For that alone, the contempt that Tan showed to your club and it's history and traditions, makes him far worse than the Swansea owners and IMO, worse than any other owners.

As I said, I'm not really qualified but that is how I view Tan.

You've nailed it mate no class and no respect

I'm not really qualified to comment but I will say that American owners are generally damp squibs, my own team being the obvious example, along with Sunderland.

What I would say is that I could never imagine an American owner lacking the class and/or respect to change a clubs traditional colours from blue to red. For me, that ranks as one of the most disrespectful actions (probably THE most disrespectful action) that modern day football has bought us.

For that alone, the contempt that Tan showed to your club and it's history and traditions, makes him far worse than the Swansea owners and IMO, worse than any other owners.

As I said, I'm not really qualified but that is how I view Tan.

You've nailed it mate no class and no respect

yep yep and even more yep. Adding to another yep what makes it even worse are all those fans who lapped up to him but now are in denial they did.

Us, I'm not sure Cardiff City will ever be the same after the rebrand. It may have been reversed but a lot of damage has been done

Soon as Tan goes and he takes his sheep we will get back to the Cardiff everyone wants.

What Cardiff do you want?

Ever heard of the saying "Like a bad smell you just can't get rid of it"? Well the Cardiff I want is an oblivion of the rebrand or those that caused it.

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Yeah hand me a tampax someone so I can wipe off the suntan nose this guy has gained from licking Tans arse.

Cause we have a crisis. We have gone back 10 years under this regime.

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Yeah hand me a tampax someone so I can wipe off the suntan nose this guy has gained from licking Tans arse.

Cause we have a crisis. We have gone back 10 years under this regime.

What a load of bollox. Put that tampax in you bloody drama queen.

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Yeah hand me a tampax someone so I can wipe off the suntan nose this guy has gained from licking Tans arse.

Cause we have a crisis. We have gone back 10 years under this regime.

What a load of bollox. Put that tampax in you bloody drama queen.

f**k all to do with you.

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Yeah hand me a tampax someone so I can wipe off the suntan nose this guy has gained from licking Tans arse.

Cause we have a crisis. We have gone back 10 years under this regime.

What a load of bollox. Put that tampax in you bloody drama queen.

f**k all to do with you.

Oooh you're hard behind your keyboard you fat mess

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Yeah hand me a tampax someone so I can wipe off the suntan nose this guy has gained from licking Tans arse.

Cause we have a crisis. We have gone back 10 years under this regime.

What a load of bollox. Put that tampax in you bloody drama queen.

f**k all to do with you.

Oooh you're hard behind your keyboard you fat mess

I see we got another mouthy keyboard warrior on here

Big Ken

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Yeah hand me a tampax someone so I can wipe off the suntan nose this guy has gained from licking Tans arse.

Cause we have a crisis. We have gone back 10 years under this regime.

What a load of bollox. Put that tampax in you bloody drama queen.

Mate your talking f*cking bollox mouthing last night and tonight

Ark at Grange End the biggest keyboard warrior on here.

Posting photos of Nils and Jonathan on here like some star struck teenager you sad tw@t.

How old are you ffs.

A grown man star struck by the Soul Crew

Have the Americans split the jacks fan base in two and made people to humiliated to by their kit????

Let's face it, the jacks are only really suffering from a prospect of relegation.

We had our fans blown apart.

They start singing Bradley out at a match and the next day he is sacked.

We got ignored for years.



Stupid thread makes us look like fuckwits

It's about the "Now" not the past.

A-fecking-men to that though sadly some people get off making up a crisis.

Bollocks to that. You do realise we are in a crisis because we are in a relegation fight or is that acceptable to you?

And just on cue one comes along.Someone pass him a tampax.

Yeah hand me a tampax someone so I can wipe off the suntan nose this guy has gained from licking Tans arse.

Cause we have a crisis. We have gone back 10 years under this regime.

What a load of bollox. Put that tampax in you bloody drama queen.

f**k all to do with you.

Oooh you're hard behind your keyboard you fat mess

Less of the fat.

Ok so only a few seasons ago we were primed for the Premier. Got there and looked reasonable good to survive although one or two might not agree. However none of us ever thought we would drop down to the bottom of this league. Most I would say agreed we would be a yo yo club. We now find ourselves in a right mess due to some decisions made from the regime and will be lucky to avoid the drop. Fortunately we now have an experienced manager in who lets be honest has said some decrimental things about some of the players. You can only assume our squad is not that good. More being real than dramatic don't you think?

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

f*cking hell I agree with you

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

You do know not long ago he put in place a manager with no championship experience that was taking us down. You would have thought he had learn't that lesson with OGS. That's not a sign of a good owner.

Would I swop the Americans for Tan? Too damn right I would.

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

You do know not long ago he put in place a manager with no championship experience that was taking us down. You would have thought he had learn't that lesson with OGS. That's not a sign of a good owner.

Would I swop the Americans for Tan? Too damn right I would.

Name another owner in football who has put 180 million into a club and is willing to write it all off?

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

You do know not long ago he put in place a manager with no championship experience that was taking us down. You would have thought he had learn't that lesson with OGS. That's not a sign of a good owner.

Would I swop the Americans for Tan? Too damn right I would.

Name another owner in football who has put 180 million into a club and is willing to write it all off?

hmm difficult one that let me think......Abramovich......those Sheik guys......

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

You do know not long ago he put in place a manager with no championship experience that was taking us down. You would have thought he had learn't that lesson with OGS. That's not a sign of a good owner.

Would I swop the Americans for Tan? Too damn right I would.

Name another owner in football who has put 180 million into a club and is willing to write it all off?

hmm difficult one that let me think......Abramovich......those Sheik guys......

Well you got the first bit right but whenever they come to sell my guess is they'll do ok and will not have fork out for any debt.

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

So the Americans get rid of a bad manager...so what does Tan do?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... n-12378147

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

You do know not long ago he put in place a manager with no championship experience that was taking us down. You would have thought he had learn't that lesson with OGS. That's not a sign of a good owner.

Would I swop the Americans for Tan? Too damn right I would.

Geez I can't really believe you mean that. We understand you have issues with VT but come on let it go.

City are on the right road now and most fans see it that way IMO

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

So the Americans get rid of a bad manager...so what does Tan do?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... n-12378147

Christ thats a bit of a stretch even for you.Tan is not even the majority shareholder,just one of many by the looks of it and who says Bradley is a bad manager.The guy wasn't given one window-smacks of panic by his countrymen.If a manager ability is judged by sackings then the special one must be bad too and shudder to think we might have one of the baddest ever currently incharge of our club according to your wisdom.

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

So the Americans get rid of a bad manager...so what does Tan do?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... n-12378147

Christ thats a bit of a stretch even for you.Tan is not even the majority shareholder,just one of many by the looks of it and who says Bradley is a bad manager.The guy wasn't given one window-smacks of panic by his countrymen.If a manager ability is judged by sackings then the special one must be bad too and shudder to think we might have one of the baddest ever currently incharge of our club according to your wisdom.

Who says Bradley is a bad manager....well all of us Cardiff have been saying what a great job he has done....perhaps that is why Tan wants him at his LA franchise.

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

So the Americans get rid of a bad manager...so what does Tan do?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... n-12378147

Christ thats a bit of a stretch even for you.Tan is not even the majority shareholder,just one of many by the looks of it and who says Bradley is a bad manager.The guy wasn't given one window-smacks of panic by his countrymen.If a manager ability is judged by sackings then the special one must be bad too and shudder to think we might have one of the baddest ever currently incharge of our club according to your wisdom.

Who says Bradley is a bad manager....well all of us Cardiff have been saying what a great job he has done....perhaps that is why Tan wants him at his LA franchise.

Didn't know you were speaking for the whole forum.But like I said by your wisdom Warnock must be one of the worst managers ever.

Depends on if you want hold grudge for ever against tan, or prefer the asset stripping ways of the Americans? They are good at it look at glaziers used other people's money to buy man u put them into 500m of debt and themselves raked in muti millions when sold shares! Maybe neither is better answer!

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

So the Americans get rid of a bad manager...so what does Tan do?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... n-12378147

Christ thats a bit of a stretch even for you.Tan is not even the majority shareholder,just one of many by the looks of it and who says Bradley is a bad manager.The guy wasn't given one window-smacks of panic by his countrymen.If a manager ability is judged by sackings then the special one must be bad too and shudder to think we might have one of the baddest ever currently incharge of our club according to your wisdom.

Who says Bradley is a bad manager....well all of us Cardiff have been saying what a great job he has done....perhaps that is why Tan wants him at his LA franchise.

Always saw yourself as a good sensible poster over the years however your constant need to bring up the rebrand is letting you down.

I was against the rebrand from day one, fell out with family, refused to attend, marched etc however that was then and we are in the Now.

It's as if you believe refusing to move onmakes you some sort of elite Cardiff super fan?

What's done is done time to move on.

Tans a good owner at the moment, he made one major, colossal, f**k up with the rebrand. That aside, he's doing a good job and any new realistic owner would be worse than him.

I think so too.Of course he fecked up but he is putting it right and with his own money too.I suppose this will make good fodder for the drama queens among us but I like many others are looking forward to the day when all the shenanigans and dodgy deals are laid bare and then the said drama queens can move on and pick on something else.

The question in question should be turned on its head.

Would you swap Tan for the Americans?

So the Americans get rid of a bad manager...so what does Tan do?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... n-12378147

Christ thats a bit of a stretch even for you.Tan is not even the majority shareholder,just one of many by the looks of it and who says Bradley is a bad manager.The guy wasn't given one window-smacks of panic by his countrymen.If a manager ability is judged by sackings then the special one must be bad too and shudder to think we might have one of the baddest ever currently incharge of our club according to your wisdom.

Who says Bradley is a bad manager....well all of us Cardiff have been saying what a great job he has done....perhaps that is why Tan wants him at his LA franchise.

Always saw yourself as a good sensible poster over the years however your constant need to bring up the rebrand is letting you down.

I was against the rebrand from day one, fell out with family, refused to attend, marched etc however that was then and we are in the Now.

It's as if you believe refusing to move onmakes you some sort of elite Cardiff super fan?

What's done is done time to move on.

Was asked a question, gave my answer and gave reasons for those who asked.

Ark at Grange End the biggest keyboard warrior on here.

Posting photos of Nils and Jonathan on here like some star struck teenager you sad tw@t.

How old are you ffs.

A grown man star struck by the Soul Crew

ark at big Ken, what was your last name on this forum then Big K?

Both are twats but Tan is our tw*t and I can't wait for him to leave our Club. Couldn't give two twats arses about the Yanks at Swansea just hope they go down.