' AS SWANSEA GO 3 NIL DOWN/THEIR FANS SING '

Seems Ealing has a different view to everyone else on this.

From what I saw lots thought they would kick on and leave us for dust and I don't understand why he's trying to deny this.

Their Trust did make some noises but went very quiet- and there has been lots of talk from Swansea fans I know off sweeteners given out.

There were no serious protests- as there weren't with us.

Fact is they weren't to know it would end up like this, so why would they.

As soon as the yanks came in and started trying to score cheap points by referring to us 'we won't be changing colours, that's one thing for sure', then the alarm bells should have rung.
They didn't and only the poor results have made them wake up.

Same as it did with us in the end.

Yeah it figures

Loads of Jacks on "Call Rob" on BBC Radio Wales last season were ringing up, buzzing about these new American owners, and the prospect of pushing for the top 6. Now though... welcome to our world. Next stop, Swansea Seahawks!

Then they must be a minority of about 10. As stated, its well documented. Look at the forums and what the fans and the fans representatives were saying at the time. They were to a man against this take over and always have been, same as the initial American takeover which they all managed tk stop. There will always be a handful of morons that don't understand but in Swanseas case it must literally be not even 0.1%, thats the obvious truth of the matter.

Give it up roathie your looking daft.

Seems Ealing has a different view to everyone else on this.

From what I saw lots thought they would kick on and leave us for dust and I don't understand why he's trying to deny this.

Their Trust did make some noises but went very quiet- and there has been lots of talk from Swansea fans I know off sweeteners given out.

There were no serious protests- as there weren't with us.

Fact is they weren't to know it would end up like this, so why would they.

As soon as the yanks came in and started trying to score cheap points by referring to us 'we won't be changing colours, that's one thing for sure', then the alarm bells should have rung.
They didn't and only the poor results have made them wake up.

Same as it did with us in the end.

my friend there is no opinion, this is all 100% factual, 100% obvious and 100% documented. It is cringable that a few of the posters here are trying to fly in the face of obvious reality to ease their guilt over the Tan situation.

I would say 99.9% of Swansea fans were against the takeover. The other 0.1% quickly realised why they were in such a minority once the Trust gave their address a week later. That is just simply the state of it.

Give it up roathie your looking daft.

Christine, you are currently arguing that black is white - there is only one side that is looking daft here, and it isnt the one that is obviously correct backed by every documented fact you could have

Had no choice but to listen to the five year fans giving it big,shoe is on the other foot now and it's quite enjoyable to watch,looking forward to the derbies

Seems Ealing has a different view to everyone else on this.

From what I saw lots thought they would kick on and leave us for dust and I don't understand why he's trying to deny this.

Their Trust did make some noises but went very quiet- and there has been lots of talk from Swansea fans I know off sweeteners given out.

There were no serious protests- as there weren't with us.

Fact is they weren't to know it would end up like this, so why would they.

As soon as the yanks came in and started trying to score cheap points by referring to us 'we won't be changing colours, that's one thing for sure', then the alarm bells should have rung.
They didn't and only the poor results have made them wake up.

Same as it did with us in the end.

my friend there is no opinion, this is all 100% factual, 100% obvious and 100% documented. It is cringable that a few of the posters here are trying to fly in the face of obvious reality to ease their guilt over the Tan situation.

I would say 99.9% of Swansea fans were against the takeover. The other 0.1% quickly realised why they were in such a minority once the Trust gave their address a week later. That is just simply the state of it.

In fairness, we all speak to different people and read different things and I can categorically say that you are miles out from my experience of what people have said to me and I have read which is why so many disagree with you.

Am I your friend ? I'm not sure I know you.

In fairness, we all speak to different people and read different things and I can categorically say that you are miles out from my experience of what people have said to me and I have read which is why so many disagree with you.

Am I your friend ? I'm not sure I know you.

Can you link me to the stuff you have read? Would help your side of things.

It is not about speaking to different people. The supporters Trust acts on the wishes of the fans - the Trust opposed the takeover and always have done. Btw about 5 disagree (not with me but with the obvious course of events that is documented everywhere, they all happen to be overly anti jack posters, go figure).

In fairness, we all speak to different people and read different things and I can categorically say that you are miles out from my experience of what people have said to me and I have read which is why so many disagree with you.

Am I your friend ? I'm not sure I know you.

Can you link me to the stuff you have read? Would help your side of things.

It is not about speaking to different people. The supporters Trust acts on the wishes of the fans - the Trust opposed the takeover and always have done.

I think as you are quoting stuff as 100% proof it's up to you to provide evidence.

When were the protests ? Marches etc..
Pretty low profile.

Also, you didn't answer my question? Do I know you or not ?

Why is roathie back on here constantly spouts shite.

In fairness, we all speak to different people and read different things and I can categorically say that you are miles out from my experience of what people have said to me and I have read which is why so many disagree with you.

Am I your friend ? I'm not sure I know you.

Can you link me to the stuff you have read? Would help your side of things.

It is not about speaking to different people. The supporters Trust acts on the wishes of the fans - the Trust opposed the takeover and always have done.

I think as you are quoting stuff as 100% proof it's up to you to provide evidence.

When were the protests ? Marches etc..
Pretty low profile.

Also, you didn't answer my question? Do I know you or not ?

I didn't say there were protests or marches. I said the fanbase were clearly against it. The Trust acting on behalf of the fams made it clear as well as any thread you wish to read on the subject on their fan pages.

All I have asked is to link me to something which backs your minority opinion.

In fairness, we all speak to different people and read different things and I can categorically say that you are miles out from my experience of what people have said to me and I have read which is why so many disagree with you.

Am I your friend ? I'm not sure I know you.

Can you link me to the stuff you have read? Would help your side of things.

It is not about speaking to different people. The supporters Trust acts on the wishes of the fans - the Trust opposed the takeover and always have done.

I think as you are quoting stuff as 100% proof it's up to you to provide evidence.

When were the protests ? Marches etc..
Pretty low profile.

Also, you didn't answer my question? Do I know you or not ?

I didn't say there were protests or marches. I said the fanbase were clearly against it. The Trust acting on behalf of the fams made it clear as well as any thread you wish to read on the subject on their fan pages.

All I have asked is to link me to something which backs your minority opinion.

You appear to be quite an expert on swansea for someone with bluebird in their user name.

You appear to be quite an expert on swansea for someone with bluebird in their user name.

I am very close to the club and made no secret of it. My wife is a jack as is all her family, which is of course now my family. I am a City fan as varified by Annis, but I don't hold the hate for the jacks as many do here which is why I can give fair and actually acurate details of events without fantasy or posturing.

2/3 were in favour on the Wales Online poll http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11641147

So hardly 99% against.

As I said, not surprising as the expectations were new investment into side and facilities - instead the money went to directors and shareholders

In fairness, we all speak to different people and read different things and I can categorically say that you are miles out from my experience of what people have said to me and I have read which is why so many disagree with you.

Am I your friend ? I'm not sure I know you.

Can you link me to the stuff you have read? Would help your side of things.

It is not about speaking to different people. The supporters Trust acts on the wishes of the fans - the Trust opposed the takeover and always have done.

I think as you are quoting stuff as 100% proof it's up to you to provide evidence.

When were the protests ? Marches etc..
Pretty low profile.

Also, you didn't answer my question? Do I know you or not ?

I didn't say there were protests or marches. I said the fanbase were clearly against it. The Trust acting on behalf of the fams made it clear as well as any thread you wish to read on the subject on their fan pages.

All I have asked is to link me to something which backs your minority opinion.

If the feeling was that strong there would have been protests .
There weren't.

Now things are going shit there's anger.

Seems strange to me that anyone would try to spin this out any different as it's so obvious.

2/3 were in favour on the Wales Online poll http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11641147

So hardly 99% against.

As I said, not surprising as the expectations were new investment into side and facilities - instead the money went to directors and shareholders

a Wales Online article? Dont talk wet.

You clearly have no understanding of the situation. At no point was it suggested that money would be spent on the side or on facilities, it was only ever a share sale. There was nothing for the fanbase to believe in or buy into - it was never on the table.

Again, the supporters Trust is elected to act on behalf of the wishes of the fans. THE TRUST OPPOSED IT AND STILL DO. Every single thread on the subject suggests this also. If all you have is a Cardiff based wales online article then you are waving the white flag right here and now

You appear to be quite an expert on swansea for someone with bluebird in their user name.

I am very close to the club and made no secret of it. My wife is a jack as is all her family, which is of course now my family. I am a City fan as varified by Annis, but I don't hold the hate for the jacks as many do here which is why I can give fair and actually acurate details of events without fantasy or posturing.

Fair enough.

If the feeling was that strong there would have been protests .
There weren't.

Now things are going shit there's anger.

Seems strange to me that anyone would try to spin this out any different as it's so obvious.

Rubbish. We were not happy with Trollope. Where were the protests or marches?

The anger was there from the start, the Trust and the supporters were kept in the dark an betrayed and this was known by all well before the takeover was made official. Why on earth would anybody be happy with that. What you are saying makes no sense what so ever. There is nothing to spin, its clear to anyone and everyine the jacks did not want this takeover and anger is understandably growing as they see their club getting worse week in week out. They are also angry that the ones that sold the, out are still acting as directors when many arent, this was brought up in the latest shareholders meeting.

You appear to be quite an expert on swansea for someone with bluebird in their user name.

I am very close to the club and made no secret of it. My wife is a jack as is all her family, which is of course now my family. I am a City fan as varified by Annis, but I don't hold the hate for the jacks as many do here which is why I can give fair and actually acurate details of events without fantasy or posturing.

I grew up in Swansea. My whole family live in Swansea. Some of the first football games I ever went to were at the Vetch (forgive me for my sins, I was merely a young boy!!) I have two separate uncles who are season ticket holders. I have numerous close friends who are Swansea fans.

You're chatting rubbish. Their fans WERE positive about the new ownership, and only showed slight hesitation based on what they'd seen with us up the road, and weren't happy that the deal appeared to be stopping them from doing business in the summer. To claim anything else is rubbish, and you clearly don't know much about the Swansea fanbase despite your attempts to state otherwise.

You appear to be quite an expert on swansea for someone with bluebird in their user name.

I am very close to the club and made no secret of it. My wife is a jack as is all her family, which is of course now my family. I am a City fan as varified by Annis, but I don't hold the hate for the jacks as many do here which is why I can give fair and actually acurate details of events without fantasy or posturing.

I grew up in Swansea. My whole family live in Swansea. Some of the first football games I ever went to were at the Vetch (forgive me for my sins, I was merely a young boy!!) I have two separate uncles who are season ticket holders. I have numerous close friends who are Swansea fans.

You're chatting rubbish. Their fans WERE positive about the new ownership, and only showed slight hesitation based on what they'd seen with us up the road, and weren't happy that the deal appeared to be stopping them from doing business in the summer. To claim anything else is rubbish, and you clearly don't know much about the Swansea fanbase despite your attempts to state otherwise.

Yet another anti jack poster posting absolute tosh. There was no positive feeling towards the takeover what so ever, in fact the very essence if the takeover made that an obvious outcome. The anti takeover feeling was the exact reason they were nit told about it and the supporters trust (the largest single shareholder) was kept out of discussions and kept completely in the dark. Thats all the proof any sane person needs regarding the feeling of the takeover, regardless of sketchy stories of second removed uncles wtc rejoicing at the supporters having less of a say in the club and their power being diminished, yes I am sure they were all over the moon.

2/3 were in favour on the Wales Online poll http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11641147

So hardly 99% against.

As I said, not surprising as the expectations were new investment into side and facilities - instead the money went to directors and shareholders

a Wales Online article? Dont talk wet.

You clearly have no understanding of the situation. At no point was it suggested that money would be spent on the side or on facilities, it was only ever a share sale. There was nothing for the fanbase to believe in or buy into - it was never on the table.

Again, the supporters Trust is elected to act on behalf of the wishes of the fans. THE TRUST OPPOSED IT AND STILL DO. Every single thread on the subject suggests this also. If all you have is a Cardiff based wales online article then you are waving the white flag right here and now

You ask for proof he gives you some and you still shoot it down. How about you show some proof of your claim?

2/3 were in favour on the Wales Online poll http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11641147

So hardly 99% against.

As I said, not surprising as the expectations were new investment into side and facilities - instead the money went to directors and shareholders

a Wales Online article? Dont talk wet.

You clearly have no understanding of the situation. At no point was it suggested that money would be spent on the side or on facilities, it was only ever a share sale. There was nothing for the fanbase to believe in or buy into - it was never on the table.

Again, the supporters Trust is elected to act on behalf of the wishes of the fans. THE TRUST OPPOSED IT AND STILL DO. Every single thread on the subject suggests this also. If all you have is a Cardiff based wales online article then you are waving the white flag right here and now

You ask for proof he gives you some and you still shoot it down. How about you show some proof of your claim?

You are wasting your time arguing with Ealing Bluebird. Noticed in the past under his numerous other names he will argue all night if you have the time to waste. Check out his favourite topics, mostly swansea,

2/3 were in favour on the Wales Online poll http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11641147

So hardly 99% against.

As I said, not surprising as the expectations were new investment into side and facilities - instead the money went to directors and shareholders

a Wales Online article? Dont talk wet.

You clearly have no understanding of the situation. At no point was it suggested that money would be spent on the side or on facilities, it was only ever a share sale. There was nothing for the fanbase to believe in or buy into - it was never on the table.

Again, the supporters Trust is elected to act on behalf of the wishes of the fans. THE TRUST OPPOSED IT AND STILL DO. Every single thread on the subject suggests this also. If all you have is a Cardiff based wales online article then you are waving the white flag right here and now

You ask for proof he gives you some and you still shoot it down. How about you show some proof of your claim?

Some proof? He showed me a Cardiff based Wales online article that could have 4 votes

listen, you clearly do not understand the takeover. This takeover meant that the Swansea supporters lost their voting rights and their say at boardroom level, and you are expecting people to believe that they were perfectly happy with that

The Trust represents the views of the fans and they opposed it. Thats all the proof anyone needs.

2/3 were in favour on the Wales Online poll http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11641147

So hardly 99% against.

As I said, not surprising as the expectations were new investment into side and facilities - instead the money went to directors and shareholders

a Wales Online article? Dont talk wet.

You clearly have no understanding of the situation. At no point was it suggested that money would be spent on the side or on facilities, it was only ever a share sale. There was nothing for the fanbase to believe in or buy into - it was never on the table.

Again, the supporters Trust is elected to act on behalf of the wishes of the fans. THE TRUST OPPOSED IT AND STILL DO. Every single thread on the subject suggests this also. If all you have is a Cardiff based wales online article then you are waving the white flag right here and now

It's a poll, 2/3 were for it.
Show me another which proves this wrong.
You've produced nothing.
Pointless discussing this with you as you clearly aren't interested in any other opinions.

You are wasting your time arguing with Ealing Bluebird. Noticed in the past under his numerous other names he will argue all night if you have the time to waste. Check out his favourite topics, mostly swansea,

There is no arguing going in here fella. I am just telling people who are clearly misinformed at best or pointlessly posturing at worst - how the situation really is.

Swansea is not my favourite topic. In fact if you read my topics you would see me urging people to talk about Cardiff. My most popular topic however is putting certain mistruths and lies right and directing banter down the roght channels where we actually have a leg to stand on.

Bit like calling Brad Pitt ugly, and expecting people to believe it. If you want to have a go at him then get some factual angles like the fact his wife just left him. This whole Swansea fans wanted the takeover nonsense is essentially the Brad Pitt is ugly argument. Its just pointless. They are crap, loads to have a go at them about - why make stuff up.

You are wasting your time arguing with Ealing Bluebird. Noticed in the past under his numerous other names he will argue all night if you have the time to waste. Check out his favourite topics, mostly swansea,

There is no arguing going in here fella. I am just telling people who are clearly misinformed at best or pointlessly posturing at worst - how the situation really is.

Swansea is not my favourite topic. In fact if you read my topics you would see me urging people to talk about Cardiff. My most popular topic however is putting certain mistruths and lies right and directing banter down the roght channels where we actually have a leg to stand on.

Bit like calling Brad Pitt ugly, and expecting people to believe it. If you want to have a go at him then get some factual angles like the fact his wife just left him. This whole Swansea fans wanted the takeover nonsense is essentially the Brad Pitt is ugly argument. Its just pointless. They are crap, loads to have a go at them about - why make stuff up.

Still can't understand why a swansea fan is so obsessed with this forum, and it must be an obsession considering the number of user names you continually use to get on to this forum.

Their owners have managed to make Vincent Tan look like Steve Gibson.

Rebrand aside, Tan is one of the better owners in the footballing world.

We don't live in that reality though, we live in the one where the rebrand actually happened

If the feeling was that strong there would have been protests .
There weren't.

Now things are going shit there's anger.

Seems strange to me that anyone would try to spin this out any different as it's so obvious.

Rubbish. We were not happy with Trollope. Where were the protests or marches?

The anger was there from the start, the Trust and the supporters were kept in the dark an betrayed and this was known by all well before the takeover was made official. Why on earth would anybody be happy with that. What you are saying makes no sense what so ever. There is nothing to spin, its clear to anyone and everyine the jacks did not want this takeover and anger is understandably growing as they see their club getting worse week in week out. They are also angry that the ones that sold the, out are still acting as directors when many arent, this was brought up in the latest shareholders meeting.

Your arguments are getting odder and odder.

Most of us were prepared to give Trollope a chance, why would we protest ?
This isn't about us anyway.
Only thing I saw from the Trust was being put out by a lack of consultation. That same Trusts reps have been the targets themselves of abuse from their own fans since things started going tits up.

You asked me for evidence I gave it to you, but you don't get any and just come up with this crap.

Strange this conversation wasn't taking place in June

2/3 were in favour on the Wales Online poll http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11641147

So hardly 99% against.

As I said, not surprising as the expectations were new investment into side and facilities - instead the money went to directors and shareholders

a Wales Online article? Dont talk wet.

You clearly have no understanding of the situation. At no point was it suggested that money would be spent on the side or on facilities, it was only ever a share sale. There was nothing for the fanbase to believe in or buy into - it was never on the table.

Again, the supporters Trust is elected to act on behalf of the wishes of the fans. THE TRUST OPPOSED IT AND STILL DO. Every single thread on the subject suggests this also. If all you have is a Cardiff based wales online article then you are waving the white flag right here and now

It's a poll, 2/3 were for it.
Show me another which proves this wrong.
You've produced nothing.
Pointless discussing this with you as you clearly aren't interested in any other opinions.

2/3 of people that voted. Not 2/3 of Swansea fans. It is a Welsh article.

My proof is that the supporters Trust were against it. The supporters Trust takes action or states its position due to the views of the fans. Thats all the proof needed to kill this dead.

Why on earth you think Swans fans wanted to lose their voting rights and power at boardroom level for nothing is beyond me, nothing was even promised. Your opinion makes no sense at all, think about it.

Still can't understand why a swansea fan is so obsessed with this forum, and it must be an obsession considering the number of user names you continually use to get on to this forum.

I can, if I were a Swans fan I would love it on here with these sort of views. They are farcical