' Legalise or not ? '

I'm sorry but I disagree with legalising cannabis - thinking in terms of my own business if my staff decide to have a joint whist on break I don't believe they will be able to function In a working environment afterwards, nor do I agree with "drug driving" which of course will be a big issue if/when legalised.

Well there's glaringly obvious answers to that - don't allow your staff to smoke during work as you wouldn't let them drink, and make driving under the influence of cannabis illegal as it is on alcohol.

They are not allowed to drink alcohol whilst on break but if this is legalised on "medical grounds" couldn't someone then argue that they are smoking cannabis in aid of their "medical condition"... Have you ever been to an employment tribunal? I'm sure this will be a debatable case.

Fair point, and yes there would be lots to debate I'm sure.

but there is also medication issued from the gp that it is strongly advised (and banned in many professions) to work whilst taking them? Like anti depressants and strong painkillers.

Cannabis taken at the correct dosage is a powerful medicine and variants like cbd oil and have been found to treat mental disorders and cancer with no phycoactive effect.

The problem is, as with literally anything it can be abused but there's far more chance of people understanding how to use it if it's made legal.

good post the two main chemicals found in cannabis is thc and cbd, thc is a phsycoactive compound that gives the 'high' off the drug and can be used to treat many mental illnesses but also can bring them out if abused or smoked as a adolescent.cbd is the non psychoactive compound that has so many medicinal purposes its unbelievable, so unbelievable that the drug companys pay good money to keep it illegal.

It would seriously hit the underworld that's for sure. But it would just ruin the weak and those that are suffering mental illness. If there was more help for those that go to get proper treatment then that would be a step in the right direction. But if the Liberal types take over then it would just be a free for all.

Duck the weak. to many liberal softies giving them every hand up they can. time these losers learn to stand on they own two feet and think and act For themselves.

losers?

marijuana should be legalised....reason : just look at the impact its on had the states in America which legalised it for recreational use. boost to economy, crime down etc.

other drugs, : when I went to see my gran in hospital, the amount of people in there due to taking hardcore drugs was shocking, now if there was a place where they could go and safely do it, 1. they would probably save money on the NHS from a number of places. also, it could be a good way for the people in charge to indentify the drug issues, whos on drugs etc, and be a good start to helping some of these people recover, by slowly cutting down their drug intake.

Some drugs are terrible. I think pot should be legalised though.

If they legalised smack crime could go down though.

I'm sorry but I disagree with legalising cannabis - thinking in terms of my own business if my staff decide to have a joint whist on break I don't believe they will be able to function In a working environment afterwards, nor do I agree with "drug driving" which of course will be a big issue if/when legalised.

Well there's glaringly obvious answers to that - don't allow your staff to smoke during work as you wouldn't let them drink, and make driving under the influence of cannabis illegal as it is on alcohol.

They are not allowed to drink alcohol whilst on break but if this is legalised on "medical grounds" couldn't someone then argue that they are smoking cannabis in aid of their "medical condition"... Have you ever been to an employment tribunal? I'm sure this will be a debatable case.

Fair point, and yes there would be lots to debate I'm sure.

but there is also medication issued from the gp that it is strongly advised (and banned in many professions) to work whilst taking them? Like anti depressants and strong painkillers.

Cannabis taken at the correct dosage is a powerful medicine and variants like cbd oil and have been found to treat mental disorders and cancer with no phycoactive effect.

The problem is, as with literally anything it can be abused but there's far more chance of people understanding how to use it if it's made legal.

The difference is, if the doctor gives you a laxitive medicine your not going to come out of the toilet high as a kite.

Who said anything about laxatives? of course they don't make you trip that's just a ridiculous and completly irrelevant statement.

Don't you think your coordination and general cognitive functions are effected by the countless list of anti depressants and painkillers like vallium, tremadol and morphine just to name a few? You are not aloud to drive or operate machinery/ work in hazardous environments whilst using these 'medicines'.

Do you think if its legalised for medicinal purposed that your workforce is suddenly going to become stoners? Half of them probably already are.

If they were or are stoners they wouldn't be working for me!

You've clearly avoided the valid points I've made...

Do you mind if I ask what it is that you do?

I'm sorry but I disagree with legalising cannabis - thinking in terms of my own business if my staff decide to have a joint whist on break I don't believe they will be able to function In a working environment afterwards, nor do I agree with "drug driving" which of course will be a big issue if/when legalised.

Well there's glaringly obvious answers to that - don't allow your staff to smoke during work as you wouldn't let them drink, and make driving under the influence of cannabis illegal as it is on alcohol.

They are not allowed to drink alcohol whilst on break but if this is legalised on "medical grounds" couldn't someone then argue that they are smoking cannabis in aid of their "medical condition"... Have you ever been to an employment tribunal? I'm sure this will be a debatable case.

Fair point, and yes there would be lots to debate I'm sure.

but there is also medication issued from the gp that it is strongly advised (and banned in many professions) to work whilst taking them? Like anti depressants and strong painkillers.

Cannabis taken at the correct dosage is a powerful medicine and variants like cbd oil and have been found to treat mental disorders and cancer with no phycoactive effect.

The problem is, as with literally anything it can be abused but there's far more chance of people understanding how to use it if it's made legal.

The difference is, if the doctor gives you a laxitive medicine your not going to come out of the toilet high as a kite.

Who said anything about laxatives? of course they don't make you trip that's just a ridiculous and completly irrelevant statement.

Don't you think your coordination and general cognitive functions are effected by the countless list of anti depressants and painkillers like vallium, tremadol and morphine just to name a few? You are not aloud to drive or operate machinery/ work in hazardous environments whilst using these 'medicines'.

Do you think if its legalised for medicinal purposed that your workforce is suddenly going to become stoners? Half of them probably already are.

If they were or are stoners they wouldn't be working for me!

You've clearly avoided the valid points I've made...

Do you mind if I ask what it is that you do?

I have a small chain of pubs and a fitness centre. If the evidence was so positive and clear why aren't the BMA supporting it? We have enough percentage of uneconomically inactive people in Wales who currently find funds to purchase these illegal drugs, I as a tax payer don't want to give them their fix for free plus additional benefits, and put additional strain on the NHS. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I have mine and respect yours.

I'm sorry but I disagree with legalising cannabis - thinking in terms of my own business if my staff decide to have a joint whist on break I don't believe they will be able to function In a working environment afterwards, nor do I agree with "drug driving" which of course will be a big issue if/when legalised.

Well there's glaringly obvious answers to that - don't allow your staff to smoke during work as you wouldn't let them drink, and make driving under the influence of cannabis illegal as it is on alcohol.

They are not allowed to drink alcohol whilst on break but if this is legalised on "medical grounds" couldn't someone then argue that they are smoking cannabis in aid of their "medical condition"... Have you ever been to an employment tribunal? I'm sure this will be a debatable case.

Fair point, and yes there would be lots to debate I'm sure.

but there is also medication issued from the gp that it is strongly advised (and banned in many professions) to work whilst taking them? Like anti depressants and strong painkillers.

Cannabis taken at the correct dosage is a powerful medicine and variants like cbd oil and have been found to treat mental disorders and cancer with no phycoactive effect.

The problem is, as with literally anything it can be abused but there's far more chance of people understanding how to use it if it's made legal.

The difference is, if the doctor gives you a laxitive medicine your not going to come out of the toilet high as a kite.

Who said anything about laxatives? of course they don't make you trip that's just a ridiculous and completly irrelevant statement.

Don't you think your coordination and general cognitive functions are effected by the countless list of anti depressants and painkillers like vallium, tremadol and morphine just to name a few? You are not aloud to drive or operate machinery/ work in hazardous environments whilst using these 'medicines'.

Do you think if its legalised for medicinal purposed that your workforce is suddenly going to become stoners? Half of them probably already are.

If they were or are stoners they wouldn't be working for me!

You've clearly avoided the valid points I've made...

Do you mind if I ask what it is that you do?

I have a small chain of pubs and a fitness centre. If the evidence was so positive and clear why aren't the BMA supporting it? We have enough percentage of uneconomically inactive people in Wales who currently find funds to purchase these illegal drugs, I as a tax payer don't want to give them their fix for free plus additional benefits, and put additional strain on the NHS. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I have mine and respect yours.

They aren't supporting it for the same reason that the renewable energy industry has faced so much opposition from oil companies, Corruption and money. If they were honestly worried about peoples health then they would instantly ban alcohol and tobacco instantly would they not? The two single biggest drains on the NHS and police in this country. I find it rather ironic that your worried about the strain on the state since 75% of violent incidents in the UK are alcohol related, I'm sure your aware of this as a provider of the drug. If you do some research you'll actually see the positive effect its had on the economy in California, The state is looking at bringing in $1billion in tax on legal cannabis.

I respect that you have an opinion too, I haven't disrespected your opinion just debated it.

lastly, If you don't think that any of your staff smoke, or have ever smoked and would actually sack them on the premise of something they may have done years ago then I think that's a very close minded and judgemental outlook. Even the military accept people that openly admit to trying drugs earlier in life, as long as they don't use any more and of course are tested regularly.

I'm sorry but I disagree with legalising cannabis - thinking in terms of my own business if my staff decide to have a joint whist on break I don't believe they will be able to function In a working environment afterwards, nor do I agree with "drug driving" which of course will be a big issue if/when legalised.

Well there's glaringly obvious answers to that - don't allow your staff to smoke during work as you wouldn't let them drink, and make driving under the influence of cannabis illegal as it is on alcohol.

They are not allowed to drink alcohol whilst on break but if this is legalised on "medical grounds" couldn't someone then argue that they are smoking cannabis in aid of their "medical condition"... Have you ever been to an employment tribunal? I'm sure this will be a debatable case.

Fair point, and yes there would be lots to debate I'm sure.

but there is also medication issued from the gp that it is strongly advised (and banned in many professions) to work whilst taking them? Like anti depressants and strong painkillers.

Cannabis taken at the correct dosage is a powerful medicine and variants like cbd oil and have been found to treat mental disorders and cancer with no phycoactive effect.

The problem is, as with literally anything it can be abused but there's far more chance of people understanding how to use it if it's made legal.

The difference is, if the doctor gives you a laxitive medicine your not going to come out of the toilet high as a kite.

Who said anything about laxatives? of course they don't make you trip that's just a ridiculous and completly irrelevant statement.

Don't you think your coordination and general cognitive functions are effected by the countless list of anti depressants and painkillers like vallium, tremadol and morphine just to name a few? You are not aloud to drive or operate machinery/ work in hazardous environments whilst using these 'medicines'.

Do you think if its legalised for medicinal purposed that your workforce is suddenly going to become stoners? Half of them probably already are.

If they were or are stoners they wouldn't be working for me!

You've clearly avoided the valid points I've made...

Do you mind if I ask what it is that you do?

I have a small chain of pubs and a fitness centre. If the evidence was so positive and clear why aren't the BMA supporting it? We have enough percentage of uneconomically inactive people in Wales who currently find funds to purchase these illegal drugs, I as a tax payer don't want to give them their fix for free plus additional benefits, and put additional strain on the NHS. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I have mine and respect yours.

They aren't supporting it for the same reason that the renewable energy industry has faced so much opposition from oil companies, Corruption and money. If they were honestly worried about peoples health then they would instantly ban alcohol and tobacco instantly would they not? The two single biggest drains on the NHS and police in this country. I find it rather ironic that your worried about the strain on the state since 75% of violent incidents in the UK are alcohol related, I'm sure your aware of this as a provider of the drug. If you do some research you'll actually see the positive effect its had on the economy in California, The state is looking at bringing in $1billion in tax on legal cannabis.

I respect that you have an opinion too, I haven't disrespected your opinion just debated it.

lastly, If you don't think that any of your staff smoke, or have ever smoked and would actually sack them on the premise of something they may have done years ago then I think that's a very close minded and judgemental outlook. Even the military accept people that openly admit to trying drugs earlier in life, as long as they don't use any more and of course are tested regularly.

Alcohol and cigarettes is a licencing activity which generally does not affect the future of people to cope with life. I have had personal experience with a long term cannabis smoker (a family member) who has in my opinion lost the ability to have lasting relationships due to paranoia, which I submit was caused by cannabis. I have also experienced first hand whilst being in Amsterdam a gentleman who went completely bananas and punched his long term girlfriend in the face for no reason. I have no reason to believe that any of my staff smoke cannabis, however should I catch them during my paid time, then it will be their last shift.. I've had to sack an alcoholic for the same reason.

I sympathise with you on that, I know people who've had similar problems. But we're now talking about cannabis ABUSE, not medicinal use.

Cannabis just like alcohol, prescription drugs and even food can be abused and cause mental and physical illness, it doesn't necessarily mean they should be banned all together.

I sympathise with you on that, I know people who've had similar problems. But we're now talking about cannabis ABUSE, not medicinal use.

Cannabis just like alcohol, prescription drugs and even food can be abused and cause mental and physical illness, it doesn't necessarily mean they should be banned all together.

Agree with that, but most doctors will prescribe it "like they give out sick notes" because they get paid for bums on seats. If the patient goes else where they loose money... Hence the whole benefits system being abused, we all know someone who is claiming who shouldn't be, and works in the shadow economy, it's wrong, it makes me sick and that's a different story. Legalising these drugs in my option will just fill up already crowded surgeries and give pharmacists an even bigger golden egg from that perscription free Welsh government.