Fascists' trying to undermine Brexit

A few past statements on the EU.

The currently politically correct approach, I call Europeism ... tries to create a brave new world without nations, without borders, without politics, without a "demos" (which means without authentic citizens) and - as a result of it - without democracy. I see it as a big problem.
Václav Klaus, Czech Republic President, 2007

I don't want my children - and possibly their children - to live in thrall to the EU: a layer of government that, in my view, is not only unnecessary, but lawless, corrupt, mistaken, undemocratic, bureaucratic, over-regulated and, ultimately, unworkable. Even if the EU does not develop into a full, single political entity, what has happened so far is quite bad enough. Its parliament - without powers to propose legislation - is hardly in any real sense a Parliament. Its executive (the Commission) - headed by political appointees - is barely accountable to anyone, apart from the very blunt instrument of its entire dismissal by Parliament, as happened with the Santer Commission in 1999. Is it possible for the EU to change, to reform? Having worked in it, and seen it from the inside, I see no chance of that. I see the institution as not only corrupt but corrupting.
Marta Andreasen, MEP and former Chief Accountant fired by the EU, 2009

Why consider break-up at all? Break-up occurs because the Euro does not work. Member states would be economically better off if they had never joined. European monetary union was generally mis-sold to the population of the Europe.
Stephane Deo, Paul Donovan, and Larry Hatheway of Swiss bank USB, 2011

The most puzzling development in politics during the last decade is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to re-create the Soviet Union in Western Europe.
Mikhail Gorbachev, former Soviet President

We've just managed the great escape thank goodness.

The most interesting and revealing part of this thread is "IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF US WE'LL KICK YOUR f*cking HEAD IN!"

A few past statements on the EU.

The currently politically correct approach, I call Europeism ... tries to create a brave new world without nations, without borders, without politics, without a "demos" (which means without authentic citizens) and - as a result of it - without democracy. I see it as a big problem.
Václav Klaus, Czech Republic President, 2007

I don't want my children - and possibly their children - to live in thrall to the EU: a layer of government that, in my view, is not only unnecessary, but lawless, corrupt, mistaken, undemocratic, bureaucratic, over-regulated and, ultimately, unworkable. Even if the EU does not develop into a full, single political entity, what has happened so far is quite bad enough. Its parliament - without powers to propose legislation - is hardly in any real sense a Parliament. Its executive (the Commission) - headed by political appointees - is barely accountable to anyone, apart from the very blunt instrument of its entire dismissal by Parliament, as happened with the Santer Commission in 1999. Is it possible for the EU to change, to reform? Having worked in it, and seen it from the inside, I see no chance of that. I see the institution as not only corrupt but corrupting.
Marta Andreasen, MEP and former Chief Accountant fired by the EU, 2009

Why consider break-up at all? Break-up occurs because the Euro does not work. Member states would be economically better off if they had never joined. European monetary union was generally mis-sold to the population of the Europe.
Stephane Deo, Paul Donovan, and Larry Hatheway of Swiss bank USB, 2011

The most puzzling development in politics during the last decade is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to re-create the Soviet Union in Western Europe.
Mikhail Gorbachev, former Soviet President

We've just managed the great escape thank goodness.

Well I'm quite interesting in the biblical prophecies of the last book Revelations. In that book it talks about a Beast with 4 heads and 7 horns. One of the 4 heads is Greece according to the historians. The president of Greece today a lot of these historians believe is going to be the anit christ. Out of all this dismay of the EU he will turn it around and become the Leader. Well we know how it ends for him don't we.
We are definitely better off out of it.

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

Not true at all.

Out of all of those that were allowed to vote only 35% voted to remain and 37% voted to leave leaving 28% abstaining.

That's interesting. Even closer than the 52/48% split then. I wonder what might influence the outing of the 28% as this drama unfolds!

Ah HalfbakedAlaska,welcome back.Pedantic as ever I see,grown any pubes yet.

Why are you interested in my pubes?

Below is why we can no longer trust our Judiciary or any governmental department!

We must follow Trumps pledge and Drain the Swamp over here!

The familiar landscape of national governments, parliaments, monarchies, judicial systems has all been left in place. But they have been subtly hollowed out from within, so that as their powers have gradually been transferred to the new system of government above them, most people have remained blissfully unaware of what has happened.
Christopher Booker, columnist and author, 2005

As for the notion that [a] directive can be somehow modified or attenuated by British MPs, in the process of enactment into British law - well, that is a complete joke. I sit on European standing committee B, watching EU legislation come in like a tide, and there is nothing we can do to interrupt or object. We are far less use than the Russian Duma under Lenin. It is a farce, and it is no way to govern a country.
Boris Johnson, British MP, 2004

The Judiciary is our only hope! Boris Johnson and his nutjob mates have the collective brain of a mudskipper!

The Judiciary is our only hope! Boris Johnson and his nutjob mates have the collective brain of a mudskipper!

The Judiciary in this country are by and large puppets of the EU.

Anyway, they won't hold up Brexit for too long (if at all).

All across Europe, there are movements rising up against Brussels rule.

The Judiciary is our only hope! Boris Johnson and his nutjob mates have the collective brain of a mudskipper!

The Judiciary in this country are by and large puppets of the EU.

Anyway, they won't hold up Brexit for too long (if at all).

All across Europe, there are movements rising up against Brussels rule.

Absolutely bang on wrong! The Judiciary have a tradition light years before you were a glint in your father's eye of being impartial and they will continue to be for light years to come. It's one of the British traditions which we should be proud of. Seriously if you think otherwise it massively undermines your argument. If our country should ever be in danger of overthrow by despots the Judiciary will be our saviours

The Judiciary is our only hope! Boris Johnson and his nutjob mates have the collective brain of a mudskipper!

The Judiciary in this country are by and large puppets of the EU.

Anyway, they won't hold up Brexit for too long (if at all).

All across Europe, there are movements rising up against Brussels rule.

Absolutely bang on wrong! The Judiciary have a tradition light years before you were a glint in your father's eye of being impartial and they will continue to be for light years to come. It's one of the British traditions which we should be proud of. Seriously if you think otherwise it massively undermines your argument. If our country should ever be in danger of overthrow by despots the Judiciary will be our saviours

Out of three judges that sat on the recent ruling regarding Brexit, two were linked and are pro-EU. This is not impartial and backs up my argument.

Also, on the up and coming appeal. MPs have demanded Lord Neuberger stands down following the discovery of his wife's tweets which are anti- Brexit.

The despots you talk about are ones like Tony Blair, who want to reverse Brexit and the will of the majority.

How could they be partial just because they were pro EU? Lots of people are, some aren't. Are you suggesting they would only qualify as judges if they were undecided? We've just had a referendum on a binary proposition; having a view on that surely doesn't mean you are unable to give your opinion on a legal issue.

Anyway, the legal issues have been decided. Theresa May is making a fool of herself (and us) taking this to the Supreme Court. Ultimately this will be decided by Parliament.

Also, Judges are just like the rest of the establishment who are doing rather nicely and don't want the boat rocked. Ordinary people don't matter. Democracy is the power of the people and a referendum is only advisory according to the EU. Where were our judges while we were losing our sovereignty?? They should have been sacked for not protecting us from new EU laws without our permission.

We've been lied too for donkeys years, and the people here in the UK, in America, and in other parts of Europe have risen and are rising up.

As Victor Orban, the Hungarian Prime Minister most recently and rightly stated;

The days of Liberal Non-democracy are coming to an end!

Now you're talking of course the Establishment are cunts. Your mate Farage and that Hungarian tw*t included. They got money and they want to keep us servile and penniless because the fat cats want it all to themselves. Do you really think they care about a poor ex squaddie like yourself?

How could they be partial just because they were pro EU? Lots of people are, some aren't. Are you suggesting they would only qualify as judges if they were undecided? We've just had a referendum on a binary proposition; having a view on that surely doesn't mean you are unable to give your opinion on a legal issue.

Anyway, the legal issues have been decided. Theresa May is making a fool of herself (and us) taking this to the Supreme Court. Ultimately this will be decided by Parliament.

Its all a farce. Parliamentarians had their bloody vote like everyone else.

May dithered just like when she was Home Secretary. I was reading that article 50 is not legally binding and we can leave tomorrow if we so wish. its going to be very interesting because if MPs try and block the will of the majority then I believe we are into a situation that this country has not been in since the last english civil war. Very dangerous if they do.

How could they be partial just because they were pro EU? Lots of people are, some aren't. Are you suggesting they would only qualify as judges if they were undecided? We've just had a referendum on a binary proposition; having a view on that surely doesn't mean you are unable to give your opinion on a legal issue.

Anyway, the legal issues have been decided. Theresa May is making a fool of herself (and us) taking this to the Supreme Court. Ultimately this will be decided by Parliament.

Its all a farce. Parliamentarians had their bloody vote like everyone else.

May dithered just like when she was Home Secretary. I was reading that article 50 is not legally binding and we can leave tomorrow if we so wish. its going to be very interesting because if MPs try and block the will of the majority then I believe we are into a situation that this country has not been in since the last english civil war. Very dangerous if they do.

Yes I agree all of us have been shafted by the rich bastards. I think me and you should start a real People's Army and let's flush all the slime out of the system. That obnoxious rich c**t Trump would be first to go. With all your military knowledge I'd make you 5 star General in the war against greed and corruption

How could they be partial just because they were pro EU? Lots of people are, some aren't. Are you suggesting they would only qualify as judges if they were undecided? We've just had a referendum on a binary proposition; having a view on that surely doesn't mean you are unable to give your opinion on a legal issue.

Anyway, the legal issues have been decided. Theresa May is making a fool of herself (and us) taking this to the Supreme Court. Ultimately this will be decided by Parliament.

Its all a farce. Parliamentarians had their bloody vote like everyone else.

May dithered just like when she was Home Secretary. I was reading that article 50 is not legally binding and we can leave tomorrow if we so wish. its going to be very interesting because if MPs try and block the will of the majority then I believe we are into a situation that this country has not been in since the last english civil war. Very dangerous if they do.

Yes I agree all of us have been shafted by the rich bastards. I think me and you should start a real People's Army and let's flush all the slime out of the system. That obnoxious rich c**t Trump would be first to go. With all your military knowledge I'd make you 5 star General in the war against greed and corruption

There a big swamp to drain thats for sure mate. I know I can go on a bit at times, but I just get angry with all the bullshit from all sides of the establishment - always taking ordinary people for a ride. I'm signing off now and not responding - well not for a while anyway. Cheers and good to talk with someone that shows a bit of sense.

How could they be partial just because they were pro EU? Lots of people are, some aren't. Are you suggesting they would only qualify as judges if they were undecided? We've just had a referendum on a binary proposition; having a view on that surely doesn't mean you are unable to give your opinion on a legal issue.

Anyway, the legal issues have been decided. Theresa May is making a fool of herself (and us) taking this to the Supreme Court. Ultimately this will be decided by Parliament.

Its all a farce. Parliamentarians had their bloody vote like everyone else.

May dithered just like when she was Home Secretary. I was reading that article 50 is not legally binding and we can leave tomorrow if we so wish. its going to be very interesting because if MPs try and block the will of the majority then I believe we are into a situation that this country has not been in since the last english civil war. Very dangerous if they do.

Yes I agree all of us have been shafted by the rich bastards. I think me and you should start a real People's Army and let's flush all the slime out of the system. That obnoxious rich c**t Trump would be first to go. With all your military knowledge I'd make you 5 star General in the war against greed and corruption

There a big swamp to drain thats for sure mate. I know I can go on a bit at times, but I just get angry with all the bullshit from all sides of the establishment - always taking ordinary people for a ride. I'm signing off now and not responding - well not for a while anyway. Cheers and good to talk with someone that shows a bit of sense.

No worries mate, good to chat to you, people can agree or disagree but sticking together is the main thing. Take care

May is dithering because nobody knows what to do !!!

The EU establishment dismissed Cameron as a bluffer, nobody thought he would lose the referendum, so he was sitting in the room as the cheerleader for the remainers "negotiating" a deal with an organization he 80% supports. They have had a gutsfull of us always going against their centralised super state to rival the US, so gave us nothing. And they shouldn't have.

What Cameron should have done is try to do a deal with the Germans, French, Spanish and Italians to reformat the role of the EU, but there was little appetite for that only 12 months ago.

Roll on to today, Brexit & Trump. There are no guarantees that Le Pen doesn't run very close in the second round of the french presidential, she may get the centre right candidate to question the role of the EU. Renzi may lose his reform referendum, Wilders is doing well in Holland and will offer nexit.

If the European powers want the EU to continue for another 40 years they need to reform to take the wind out of the sails of change. The European career elites need to go quickly and a new breed brought in.....(This will never happen)

I really can't see what happens. May and Hammond are reluctant remainers who wouldn't want to leave the single market but it would be suicide to accept unfettered free movement in todays climate. Brits don't like to be stitched up.

My guess has always been an associate member and we get a referendum on that. But, its tricky

It's not the Tories don't know how to trigger article 50 and have a full Brexit. They don't want to and now are playing dumb to worm there way out. Stinks to high heaven. Let what happened in America be a warning when you don't listen to the voters.

May is dithering because nobody knows what to do !!!

The EU establishment dismissed Cameron as a bluffer, nobody thought he would lose the referendum, so he was sitting in the room as the cheerleader for the remainers "negotiating" a deal with an organization he 80% supports. They have had a gutsfull of us always going against their centralised super state to rival the US, so gave us nothing. And they shouldn't have.

What Cameron should have done is try to do a deal with the Germans, French, Spanish and Italians to reformat the role of the EU, but there was little appetite for that only 12 months ago.

Roll on to today, Brexit & Trump. There are no guarantees that Le Pen doesn't run very close in the second round of the french presidential, she may get the centre right candidate to question the role of the EU. Renzi may lose his reform referendum, Wilders is doing well in Holland and will offer nexit.

If the European powers want the EU to continue for another 40 years they need to reform to take the wind out of the sails of change. The European career elites need to go quickly and a new breed brought in.....(This will never happen)

I really can't see what happens. May and Hammond are reluctant remainers who wouldn't want to leave the single market but it would be suicide to accept unfettered free movement in todays climate. Brits don't like to be stitched up.

My guess has always been an associate member and we get a referendum on that. But, its tricky

Messy isn't it?

I votes Leave and was delighted and surprised with the result. Then the main leaders of the Leave campaign basically left the subject for the Remain to sort out. I sometimes think that the Government encouraged Boris and Gove to lead the Leave campaign because they all thought the idea of them 2 leading the country if the Leave won would put a lot of those wanting out off. It would not surprise me if those two made a deal to do that with the caveat they would not take ownership of it.

Snap General Election anyone?

The majority of Britain voted out ,Doesn't matter by how small a margin.If we don't leave then we may as well scrap the voting system all together.Lets be like North Korea

Look,Brexit won the day and I accept that and I hope the Tories have got the bollocks to do the right thing and get the best possible deal for us.Its just that gimp Gaz calling everyone that doesn't agree with his point of view a fascist when actually if you read his post he's probably the most overt fascist on this board.Obviously this lad is in dire need of a dictionary.

Wouldn't be so bad if he could rationally argue his position but alas he can't.

Gimp and fascist - I'd like to see you call that to my face pal For the record, I didn't state everyone who didn't have the same opinion as myself a fascist either. I simply believe in democracy and its plain to see that your view of democracy is a long way off from mine.

My view is that everyone has an equal share in the right to reply to anything especially if they don't agree with it.Thats democratic.The irony here is I'm not bothered about your point of view(shared by many on here),infact now that the vote is done and dusted I hope for the best possible resolution for our nation.I just don't like the way you think other people that have a different view shouldn't be able to express them.

Oh,perhaps the gimp bit was over the top but not the rest of it.Just internet talk and you should never bite.

Yours sincerely Amed.

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

Not true at all.

Out of all of those that were allowed to vote only 35% voted to remain and 37% voted to leave leaving 28% abstaining.

That's interesting. Even closer than the 52/48% split then. I wonder what might influence the outing of the 28% as this drama unfolds!

i didnt vote { both sides made good points , neither side convinced me } but feel very strongly against this. I DONT ACCEPT DEMOCRACY BECAUSE THE DOPES ALL VOTED OUT crap.
so much has been said of late about rememberance day and how our armed forces sacrificed so much for democracy and FIFA disrespecting that.yet here we are with a bunch of spoilt brat think they know it alls being totally undemocratic. its THESE people and their ilk that wars were fought against.

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

I don't know what part of the result you don't understand?? The result was final - Brexit was the decision of the majority - thats how democracy works.Tell me then how something that was only advisory(The referendum)is binding in law.I understand the result for what it is but could you tell me honestly if the result had gone the other way you would have accepted it without comment.

As for the remainers being entitled to representation - NO. The deal was In or OUT - not halfway in or halfway out - it was OUT!So at the next election your saying nomatter who wins theres no point having another election ever again.

Remain lost and the Leave won! It doesn't matter even if it was 50.1% voted leave - its irrelevant!In the context of that vote I agree but It doesn't mean people can't disagree and lawfully try to change/influence to the contrary.

I stand by the view that politicians who are calling for a rerun - Fascists!!! They are dangerous people who are anti-democratic!This is your silliest statement-they are infact exercising their democratic right.

Don't worry, I understand there are also people out there who believe the same and once again in my opinion these people are also fascists! Accept the will of the majority or piss off!!!

Only works like that in your world.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the referendum was purely advisory. It has no force in law.

does this mean the 1997 welsh assembly referendum was also only advisory we ended up with an assembley only 25% of those eligable to vote wanted, can we all call those 25% thickos and have another election?

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

I don't know what part of the result you don't understand?? The result was final - Brexit was the decision of the majority - thats how democracy works.Tell me then how something that was only advisory(The referendum)is binding in law.I understand the result for what it is but could you tell me honestly if the result had gone the other way you would have accepted it without comment.

As for the remainers being entitled to representation - NO. The deal was In or OUT - not halfway in or halfway out - it was OUT!So at the next election your saying nomatter who wins theres no point having another election ever again.

Remain lost and the Leave won! It doesn't matter even if it was 50.1% voted leave - its irrelevant!In the context of that vote I agree but It doesn't mean people can't disagree and lawfully try to change/influence to the contrary.

I stand by the view that politicians who are calling for a rerun - Fascists!!! They are dangerous people who are anti-democratic!This is your silliest statement-they are infact exercising their democratic right.

Don't worry, I understand there are also people out there who believe the same and once again in my opinion these people are also fascists! Accept the will of the majority or piss off!!!

Only works like that in your world.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the referendum was purely advisory. It has no force in law.

does this mean the 1997 welsh assembly referendum was also only advisory we ended up with an assembley only 25% of those eligable to vote wanted, can we all call those 25% thickos and have another election?

I don't know. You'd better ask the Supreme Court and since we are already fully paid up members of the EU it might be referred to the EU Court. One wonders what they would make of it

The supreme court is just a pantomime appeasing those who are still in the denial or anger phase of the process ( 5 stages of grief denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance). The UK parliament will ratify the referendum, labour have already testified to that.

Parliaments debating this outcome will go on for weeks, all those MP's need to make their mark on the debate. All will be pointless. Merkel,May and whoever the French leader will be will decide this.

I believe a new relationship will beckon that we'll vote on (call it soft Brexit if you like) and well vote it in 60%/40%

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

I don't know what part of the result you don't understand?? The result was final - Brexit was the decision of the majority - thats how democracy works.Tell me then how something that was only advisory(The referendum)is binding in law.I understand the result for what it is but could you tell me honestly if the result had gone the other way you would have accepted it without comment.

As for the remainers being entitled to representation - NO. The deal was In or OUT - not halfway in or halfway out - it was OUT!So at the next election your saying nomatter who wins theres no point having another election ever again.

Remain lost and the Leave won! It doesn't matter even if it was 50.1% voted leave - its irrelevant!In the context of that vote I agree but It doesn't mean people can't disagree and lawfully try to change/influence to the contrary.

I stand by the view that politicians who are calling for a rerun - Fascists!!! They are dangerous people who are anti-democratic!This is your silliest statement-they are infact exercising their democratic right.

Don't worry, I understand there are also people out there who believe the same and once again in my opinion these people are also fascists! Accept the will of the majority or piss off!!!

Only works like that in your world.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the referendum was purely advisory. It has no force in law.

does this mean the 1997 welsh assembly referendum was also only advisory we ended up with an assembley only 25% of those eligable to vote wanted, can we all call those 25% thickos and have another election?

I don't know. You'd better ask the Supreme Court and since we are already fully paid up members of the EU it might be referred to the EU Court. One wonders what they would make of it

my point is we all had the chance to vote.all accepted the democratic result, all be it only a quarter of the eligable voters wanted it.so what is so different this time? we accepted the welsh assembley vote with a measley 25% voting for it and a less than 7k majority of actual votes.why dont pple accept a majority of 1.3 million this time?

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

I don't know what part of the result you don't understand?? The result was final - Brexit was the decision of the majority - thats how democracy works.Tell me then how something that was only advisory(The referendum)is binding in law.I understand the result for what it is but could you tell me honestly if the result had gone the other way you would have accepted it without comment.

As for the remainers being entitled to representation - NO. The deal was In or OUT - not halfway in or halfway out - it was OUT!So at the next election your saying nomatter who wins theres no point having another election ever again.

Remain lost and the Leave won! It doesn't matter even if it was 50.1% voted leave - its irrelevant!In the context of that vote I agree but It doesn't mean people can't disagree and lawfully try to change/influence to the contrary.

I stand by the view that politicians who are calling for a rerun - Fascists!!! They are dangerous people who are anti-democratic!This is your silliest statement-they are infact exercising their democratic right.

Don't worry, I understand there are also people out there who believe the same and once again in my opinion these people are also fascists! Accept the will of the majority or piss off!!!

Only works like that in your world.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the referendum was purely advisory. It has no force in law.

does this mean the 1997 welsh assembly referendum was also only advisory we ended up with an assembley only 25% of those eligable to vote wanted, can we all call those 25% thickos and have another election?

Be great if we could for all the good they've done.And I had a great idea,we could tell the welsh public that all the money we'd save by ditching the WAG could be spent on the welsh NHS..............oh wait a minute

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

I don't know what part of the result you don't understand?? The result was final - Brexit was the decision of the majority - thats how democracy works.Tell me then how something that was only advisory(The referendum)is binding in law.I understand the result for what it is but could you tell me honestly if the result had gone the other way you would have accepted it without comment.

As for the remainers being entitled to representation - NO. The deal was In or OUT - not halfway in or halfway out - it was OUT!So at the next election your saying nomatter who wins theres no point having another election ever again.

Remain lost and the Leave won! It doesn't matter even if it was 50.1% voted leave - its irrelevant!In the context of that vote I agree but It doesn't mean people can't disagree and lawfully try to change/influence to the contrary.

I stand by the view that politicians who are calling for a rerun - Fascists!!! They are dangerous people who are anti-democratic!This is your silliest statement-they are infact exercising their democratic right.

Don't worry, I understand there are also people out there who believe the same and once again in my opinion these people are also fascists! Accept the will of the majority or piss off!!!

Only works like that in your world.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the referendum was purely advisory. It has no force in law.

does this mean the 1997 welsh assembly referendum was also only advisory we ended up with an assembley only 25% of those eligable to vote wanted, can we all call those 25% thickos and have another election?

Be great if we could for all the good they've done.And I had a great idea,we could tell the welsh public that all the money we'd save by ditching the WAG could be spent on the welsh NHS..............oh wait a minute

im not really anti assembley or pro brexit. just pro democracy

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

I don't know what part of the result you don't understand?? The result was final - Brexit was the decision of the majority - thats how democracy works.Tell me then how something that was only advisory(The referendum)is binding in law.I understand the result for what it is but could you tell me honestly if the result had gone the other way you would have accepted it without comment.

As for the remainers being entitled to representation - NO. The deal was In or OUT - not halfway in or halfway out - it was OUT!So at the next election your saying nomatter who wins theres no point having another election ever again.

Remain lost and the Leave won! It doesn't matter even if it was 50.1% voted leave - its irrelevant!In the context of that vote I agree but It doesn't mean people can't disagree and lawfully try to change/influence to the contrary.

I stand by the view that politicians who are calling for a rerun - Fascists!!! They are dangerous people who are anti-democratic!This is your silliest statement-they are infact exercising their democratic right.

Don't worry, I understand there are also people out there who believe the same and once again in my opinion these people are also fascists! Accept the will of the majority or piss off!!!

Only works like that in your world.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the referendum was purely advisory. It has no force in law.

does this mean the 1997 welsh assembly referendum was also only advisory we ended up with an assembley only 25% of those eligable to vote wanted, can we all call those 25% thickos and have another election?

Be great if we could for all the good they've done.And I had a great idea,we could tell the welsh public that all the money we'd save by ditching the WAG could be spent on the welsh NHS..............oh wait a minute

im not really anti assembley or pro brexit. just pro democracy

Democracy has many guises.

You must remember that 48% voted to remain,not an insignificant number,and these people are entitled to representation.I don't think this subject is done and dusted by a long chalk.The Tory exit strategists have no clue what to do to get the best deal and the longer this goes on the more difficult its gonna get.And calling these people fascists just because you don't agree with their opinions adds no weight to your argument at all.

I don't know what part of the result you don't understand?? The result was final - Brexit was the decision of the majority - thats how democracy works.Tell me then how something that was only advisory(The referendum)is binding in law.I understand the result for what it is but could you tell me honestly if the result had gone the other way you would have accepted it without comment.

As for the remainers being entitled to representation - NO. The deal was In or OUT - not halfway in or halfway out - it was OUT!So at the next election your saying nomatter who wins theres no point having another election ever again.

Remain lost and the Leave won! It doesn't matter even if it was 50.1% voted leave - its irrelevant!In the context of that vote I agree but It doesn't mean people can't disagree and lawfully try to change/influence to the contrary.

I stand by the view that politicians who are calling for a rerun - Fascists!!! They are dangerous people who are anti-democratic!This is your silliest statement-they are infact exercising their democratic right.

Don't worry, I understand there are also people out there who believe the same and once again in my opinion these people are also fascists! Accept the will of the majority or piss off!!!

Only works like that in your world.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the referendum was purely advisory. It has no force in law.

does this mean the 1997 welsh assembly referendum was also only advisory we ended up with an assembley only 25% of those eligable to vote wanted, can we all call those 25% thickos and have another election?

Be great if we could for all the good they've done.And I had a great idea,we could tell the welsh public that all the money we'd save by ditching the WAG could be spent on the welsh NHS..............oh wait a minute

I tend to agree; I didn't vote for the thing. To me we had a pretty good system of National and Local Government in the first place and never saw any reason for interpolating an additional third tier.

Well Done Snegg - another one you've failed to answer, shan't waste time asking again.

The MP's voted 6-1 to have the referendum, the electorate voted to leave.

What Blair and Tiny are up to is quite wrong.