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Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:09 pm

Could a FAW official not phoned someone at Serbia association and just ask if they had any objections.....and if not then f**k FIFA.....and if Serbia had said they were not happy then f**k them too... :ayatollah:

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:10 pm

Chris Coleman says he wants his players to wear the poppies :thumbright: :thumbright: but has to be guided by his FAW employers.

Jonathan Ford, Chief Executive of the Football Association of Wales, said: “The FAW naturally wishes to respect and honour those who fought and lost their lives fighting for their country.

“As an Association we also have to respect the rules of FIFA and following long discussions with members of the FAW Council, staff, management and players, a decision has been made not to wear the poppy against Serbia.

“We felt unable to take the risk of a financial penalty or point deduction, however, as we always have done at this time of year, we will be paying our respects in other ways.”




England and Scotland say they will defy FIFA and wear poppies on armbands for their clash at Wembley on Friday night :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:13 pm

Thanks to Phil, Alfie Sherwoods post :thumbright:





"I felt then, as I feel now, that the politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to go and settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder."

Harry Patch - Britains last Tommy 1898-2009

Let the words of Harry Patch sink in.

The poppy is not meant to be something used as a political football by football associations, newspapers, populist politicians or anyone else. Whether a poppy is on a football shirt or not, whether you choose to wear one or not (and, remember, our forefathers fought for the freedom to be able to choose..) it really doesn't matter. Nor does it matter how each of us chooses to pay our respects. Put some money in the collection box or provide some support to an ex serviceman or woman struggling to cope with their experiences.

The poppy appeal is not about who can shout the loudest. Very often, empty vessels make the most noise..

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:13 pm

Fact is, this whole sorry saga has convinced me of one thing.

The poppy has been turned into a Brit nat symbol. I will never wear it again.

I will pay my respects my own way without making a big song and dance about it. Much more dignity that way

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:15 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Nickdav140 wrote:England and Scotland will both defy the ban meaning no teams in that game will complain whereas if Wales wear the poppy, Serbia could complain meaning FIFA would have to take action


Serbia fans have been saying 100% their Country would not object,only respect us for it :thumbright:


Not up to their fans. Up to the Serbian FA.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:16 pm

Newport County fans on Facebook :thumbright: :thumbright:

WHAT A BUNCH OF SHITE HOUSES THE WELSH FA TURNED OUT TOO BE
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Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:23 pm

sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:I don't see what the big fuss is about.

It's a game of football FFS. Players and fans will all do their own things to remember the fallen before and after the game.

Let's keep football about football.

I even think club kits should not have a poppy on them



But you can buy a lovely Welsh jersey with a poppy on it ................ are the FAW trying to take the p*ss


And all proceeds will go to the royal British legion. How is that taking the piss?



If you're going to do something do it properly, if you can have a replica shirt with it on why not have the real one .

Don't get me wrong the sentiment for the RBL is great but I'm sure fans will want to see the players wearing them to .

FAW should of bitten the bullet and got on with it .

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:29 pm

Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:I don't see what the big fuss is about.

It's a game of football FFS. Players and fans will all do their own things to remember the fallen before and after the game.

Let's keep football about football.

I even think club kits should not have a poppy on them



But you can buy a lovely Welsh jersey with a poppy on it ................ are the FAW trying to take the p*ss


And all proceeds will go to the royal British legion. How is that taking the piss?



If you're going to do something do it properly, if you can have a replica shirt with it on why not have the real one .

Don't get me wrong the sentiment for the RBL is great but I'm sure fans will want to see the players wearing them to .

FAW should of bitten the bullet and got on with it .


Why play a game and risk losing the points?

I'm sure the players who choose to will have the poppy on their suits before and after the game.

It really doesn't make a difference

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:33 pm

Hopefully we can bag the 3 points and pay our respects to the fallen by playing some scintillating football . :D

Sad state of affairs in world football that this is an issue to begin with .

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:48 pm

Nickdav140 wrote:England and Scotland will both defy the ban meaning no teams in that game will complain whereas if Wales wear the poppy, Serbia could complain meaning FIFA would have to take action


Serbia would almost certainly complain in the hope of a points deduction for Wales and bettering their own chances of making the World Cup. IMO.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:49 pm

sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:I don't see what the big fuss is about.

It's a game of football FFS. Players and fans will all do their own things to remember the fallen before and after the game.

Let's keep football about football.

I even think club kits should not have a poppy on them



But you can buy a lovely Welsh jersey with a poppy on it ................ are the FAW trying to take the p*ss


And all proceeds will go to the royal British legion. How is that taking the piss?


If you're going to do something do it properly, if you can have a replica shirt with it on why not have the real one .

Don't get me wrong the sentiment for the RBL is great but I'm sure fans will want to see the players wearing them to .

FAW should of bitten the bullet and got on with it .


Why play a game and risk losing the points?

I'm sure the players who choose to will have the poppy on their suits before and after the game.

It really doesn't make a difference

But it's ok to go to war and die...just not lose 3 points...class..... stand up and be counted.....the FAW are shit houses

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:50 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Simon,
Will Cardiff City players wear poppies next week?


Good question Annis, as if as a club we don't, then we will be one of the only if not the only PL or Championship team in the whole of the UK that doesn't. It will be very interesting. A total discrace by the club if we don't :bluebird:



Simon,
Lower Division Clubs like Bradford City(they get nearly 20,000 crowds) :thumbright: :thumbright:


The Bantams(Bradford City) to remember fallen heroes this Saturday

Sky Bet League One and League Two clubs will honour those that lost their lives at war over the weekend of the 12-13 November, whilst the 24 Sky Bet Championship teams will pay their respects the following weekend on Saturday 19 November to mark the Centenary of the Battle of the Somme which ended 100 years earlier on 18 November 1916.

This Saturday, there will be a minute’s silence and an EFL wreath will be laid on the pitch prior to kick-off of City's game with Rochdale at the Northern Commercials...


I really hope Cardiff wear poppies on their shirts against Huddersfield, very embarrassing if we don't and totally disrespectful :bluebird:

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:51 pm

tcblue wrote:Fact is, this whole sorry saga has convinced me of one thing.

The poppy has been turned into a Brit nat symbol. I will never wear it again.

I will pay my respects my own way without making a big song and dance about it. Much more dignity that way


No-one makes a 'song and dance' during the 2 minute silence :roll: that is the whole idea of paying respect.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:56 pm

After we win it will all be forgotten ! In fact as soon as ball is kicked it will be . :thumbup:
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Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:57 pm

krabb wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:I don't see what the big fuss is about.

It's a game of football FFS. Players and fans will all do their own things to remember the fallen before and after the game.

Let's keep football about football.

I even think club kits should not have a poppy on them



But you can buy a lovely Welsh jersey with a poppy on it ................ are the FAW trying to take the p*ss


And all proceeds will go to the royal British legion. How is that taking the piss?


If you're going to do something do it properly, if you can have a replica shirt with it on why not have the real one .

Don't get me wrong the sentiment for the RBL is great but I'm sure fans will want to see the players wearing them to .

FAW should of bitten the bullet and got on with it .


Why play a game and risk losing the points?

I'm sure the players who choose to will have the poppy on their suits before and after the game.

It really doesn't make a difference

But it's ok to go to war and die...just not lose 3 points...class..... stand up and be counted.....the FAW are shit houses


I didn't say that did I?

I totally understand what the poppy symbolises and agree with what it represents.

But many people may not have the same feeling towards the poppy. Even the players on the pitch.

If they were not professional footballers with celebrity status being told to wear a poppy, would they go out and buy one themselves?

To commercialise something that has a lot of meaning for a lot of people is a joke

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:58 pm

krabb wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:I don't see what the big fuss is about.

It's a game of football FFS. Players and fans will all do their own things to remember the fallen before and after the game.

Let's keep football about football.

I even think club kits should not have a poppy on them



But you can buy a lovely Welsh jersey with a poppy on it ................ are the FAW trying to take the p*ss


And all proceeds will go to the royal British legion. How is that taking the piss?


If you're going to do something do it properly, if you can have a replica shirt with it on why not have the real one .

Don't get me wrong the sentiment for the RBL is great but I'm sure fans will want to see the players wearing them to .

FAW should of bitten the bullet and got on with it .


Why play a game and risk losing the points?

I'm sure the players who choose to will have the poppy on their suits before and after the game.

It really doesn't make a difference

But it's ok to go to war and die...just not lose 3 points...class..... stand up and be counted.....the FAW are shit houses


It's a stupid rule imposed by a stupid organisation (FIFA).

However, Servicemen both current and ex along with the relatives of the fallen appreciate the 2 minute silences and the proud wearing of the Poppy where allowed. The Welsh & N. Irish FA's have been put in an impossible position and have done their best in the circumstances. Shame the fixture list didn't have a Wales vs. N. Ireland game this week that way we could have done the same as England & Scotland.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:21 pm

sid61284 wrote:
krabb wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:I don't see what the big fuss is about.

It's a game of football FFS. Players and fans will all do their own things to remember the fallen before and after the game.

Let's keep football about football.

I even think club kits should not have a poppy on them



But you can buy a lovely Welsh jersey with a poppy on it ................ are the FAW trying to take the p*ss


And all proceeds will go to the royal British legion. How is that taking the piss?


If you're going to do something do it properly, if you can have a replica shirt with it on why not have the real one .

Don't get me wrong the sentiment for the RBL is great but I'm sure fans will want to see the players wearing them to .

FAW should of bitten the bullet and got on with it .


Why play a game and risk losing the points?

I'm sure the players who choose to will have the poppy on their suits before and after the game.

It really doesn't make a difference

But it's ok to go to war and die...just not lose 3 points...class..... stand up and be counted.....the FAW are shit houses


I didn't say that did I?

I totally understand what the poppy symbolises and agree with what it represents.

But many people may not have the same feeling towards the poppy. Even the players on the pitch.

If they were not professional footballers with celebrity status being told to wear a poppy, would they go out and buy one themselves?

To commercialise something that has a lot of meaning for a lot of people is a joke

It raises awareness and raises an awful lot of money...and as for the players not wanting to wear a poppy.....how many are missing from the photo shoot at the stadium.....FAW should have done what was right.....but that's just my humble opinion.....maybe the fact my 17 year old son wants to join the Marines is slightly swaying me here.... :ayatollah:

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Nickdav140 wrote:England and Scotland will both defy the ban meaning no teams in that game will complain whereas if Wales wear the poppy, Serbia could complain meaning FIFA would have to take action


Serbia fans have been saying 100% their Country would not object,only respect us for it :thumbright:


Of course they wouldn't they were on our side in world war I and got absolutely hammered by Austria-Hungary losing 25% of their population they were occupied by the Nazi's during WWII. Absolutely pathetic by FIFA to ban it in the first place but then its no surprise considering how much of a corrupt farce they are.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:29 pm

I'm so confused by everyone from this. Why does it mean any more importance to people if we do wear poppies on our shirt or if we make a display in a stand? As long as we do remember those who fought and lost their lives I don't see why it matters in which way we remember them. A poppy on the shirt or a poppy in the stand, one does not mean more than the other and they both represent the same thing. Maybe people will not agree but that's my thought and I do not mean to be disrespectful.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:33 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:are we?



Oh no, some plastic chair thrower thinks we are a disgrace...bang goes my night's sleep tonight!

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:40 pm

Maybe when someone off the FAW pops his clogs then no mention should be made to it in anyway at the next Int match as they are such an insignificant bunch simples.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:51 pm

We are a disgrace. Even worse when people on here try to justify it. Probably calling us scabs.......

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:53 pm

I still think the players will defy the wales fa though.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:01 pm

Question:

How many of you moaners will be out there commemorating alongside the veterans and other genuinely interested parties when the real ceremonies are going on at 11am on Sunday morning? :?

I will be, as will many others on this Forum; whilst many of you will still be in bed nursing your (hopefully celebratory) headaches after Saturday night!

Where will your new found principles and concern for remembering the fallen heroes be then?? :?

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:25 pm

Sven wrote:Question:

How many of you moaners will be out there commemorating alongside the veterans and other genuinely interested parties when the real ceremonies are going on at 11am on Sunday morning? :?

I will be, as will many others on this Forum; whilst many of you will still be in bed nursing your (hopefully celebratory) headaches after Saturday night!

Where will your new found principles and concern for remembering the fallen heroes be then?? :?

Hi Sven, I will be attending the service in Llantrisant on the 13th. Far more important than a couple of points from a football game in my eyes.

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:27 pm

[quote="Sven"]Question:

How many of you moaners will be out there commemorating alongside the veterans and other genuinely interested parties when the real ceremonies are going on at 11am on Sunday morning? :?

I will be, as will many others on this Forum; whilst many of you will still be in bed nursing your (hopefully celebratory) headaches after Saturday night!

Where will your new found principles and concern for remembering the fallen heroes be then?? :?[/quote

Embarrassing to defend it. Wales fa scabs. Simples

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:17 pm

blue lagoon wrote:
Sven wrote:Question:

How many of you moaners will be out there commemorating alongside the veterans and other genuinely interested parties when the real ceremonies are going on at 11am on Sunday morning? :?

I will be, as will many others on this Forum; whilst many of you will still be in bed nursing your (hopefully celebratory) headaches after Saturday night!

Where will your new found principles and concern for remembering the fallen heroes be then?? :?[/quote

Embarrassing to defend it. Wales fa scabs. Simples




So coleman is a disgrace because he defended faw? players could easily say up yours we are doing it anyway! After all its players who could lose out if sanctions done by fifa? :thumbup:

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:37 pm

blue lagoon wrote:We are a disgrace. Even worse when people on here try to justify it. Probably calling us scabs.......


Were you this angry and vociferous last year when we didn't wear the poppy?? Or is it because the London based media have pointed it out to you this year??

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:37 pm

krabb wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
krabb wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Flyingpostman wrote:
sid61284 wrote:I don't see what the big fuss is about.

It's a game of football FFS. Players and fans will all do their own things to remember the fallen before and after the game.

Let's keep football about football.

I even think club kits should not have a poppy on them



But you can buy a lovely Welsh jersey with a poppy on it ................ are the FAW trying to take the p*ss


And all proceeds will go to the royal British legion. How is that taking the piss?


If you're going to do something do it properly, if you can have a replica shirt with it on why not have the real one .

Don't get me wrong the sentiment for the RBL is great but I'm sure fans will want to see the players wearing them to .

FAW should of bitten the bullet and got on with it .


Why play a game and risk losing the points?

I'm sure the players who choose to will have the poppy on their suits before and after the game.

It really doesn't make a difference

But it's ok to go to war and die...just not lose 3 points...class..... stand up and be counted.....the FAW are shit houses


I didn't say that did I?

I totally understand what the poppy symbolises and agree with what it represents.

But many people may not have the same feeling towards the poppy. Even the players on the pitch.

If they were not professional footballers with celebrity status being told to wear a poppy, would they go out and buy one themselves?

To commercialise something that has a lot of meaning for a lot of people is a joke

It raises awareness and raises an awful lot of money...and as for the players not wanting to wear a poppy.....how many are missing from the photo shoot at the stadium.....FAW should have done what was right.....but that's just my humble opinion.....maybe the fact my 17 year old son wants to join the Marines is slightly swaying me here.... :ayatollah:


That's what I'm saying they are in the photo because they were told to be there.

How many would wear the poppy if they weren't told to?

I'll be honest I'm the same age as a lot of these lads and I'll be honest I don't wear a poppy. Does not mean that I do not respect and honour the fallen though

Re: They are saying we are a disgrace

Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:41 pm

Sven wrote:Question:

How many of you moaners will be out there commemorating alongside the veterans and other genuinely interested parties when the real ceremonies are going on at 11am on Sunday morning? :?

Exactly this....I will be marching Sunday morning along with I imagine a huge percentage of Wales.

I will be, as will many others on this Forum; whilst many of you will still be in bed nursing your (hopefully celebratory) headaches after Saturday night!

Where will your new found principles and concern for remembering the fallen heroes be then?? :?