a wigan fans view on malkay hmmmmm

Malky wasn't very good with Watford most of us didn't want him when he signed he had 1 good season with us in the Championship then things fell apart in the premiere league before he even got sacked there will always be the groans that he's good because he got us to the prem but his record that second season speaks for itself then he had a strong team at Wigan an got them relegated from the Championship his record speaks for itself really 1 good season don't make him good same with players a good manager needs consistency Malky is out of work for a reason he wasn't a good manager we finally have a good manager now

Malky wasn't very good with Watford most of us didn't want him when he signed he had 1 good season with us in the Championship then things fell apart in the premiere league before he even got sacked there will always be the groans that he's good because he got us to the prem but his record that second season speaks for itself then he had a strong team at Wigan an got them relegated from the Championship his record speaks for itself really 1 good season don't make him good same with players a good manager needs consistency Malky is out of work for a reason he wasn't a good manager we finally have a good manager now

Malky wasn't very good with Watford most of us didn't want him when he signed he had 1 good season with us in the Championship then things fell apart in the premiere league before he even got sacked there will always be the groans that he's good because he got us to the prem but his record that second season speaks for itself then he had a strong team at Wigan an got them relegated from the Championship his record speaks for itself really 1 good season don't make him good same with players a good manager needs consistency Malky is out of work for a reason he wasn't a good manager we finally have a good manager now

Malky wasn't very good with Watford most of us didn't want him when he signed he had 1 good season with us in the Championship then things fell apart in the premiere league before he even got sacked there will always be the groans that he's good because he got us to the prem but his record that second season speaks for itself then he had a strong team at Wigan an got them relegated from the Championship his record speaks for itself really 1 good season don't make him good same with players a good manager needs consistency Malky is out of work for a reason he wasn't a good manager we finally have a good manager now

If anyone was given the money Malky was people like DJ would have taken us up, his first season will live in the memory but to have the players disposal in the promotion season and play the football we did was atrocious, we was flying top of the league and still played negative football.. 'oh he taken us up' yes spending 20 million in total with fees and wages.

The funny part is how people actually believe he would have kept us up when he won 3 home games and 1 away in half the season.. he was never keeping us up.

20 million? And the rest. 33 million we spent the year we went up.

We barely scored a goal away to all these sides we were going to apparently beat at home 2nd half of the season. Laughable.

Makes me laugh when people play the Malky didn't spend any money first season card. He inherited a very good spine of a team from Jones. Yes we'd lost Chopra, Bellers and Bothroyd but he inherited Marshall, Hudson, Whitts, Mcphail, Superkev, Conway and then was given plenty of money in wages to sign the likes of Gunnarson, Cowie, Taylor, Turner, Miller, Mason. etc

They like to make it sound like we were Blackool 2014/15 but we were anything but.

If anyone was given the money Malky was people like DJ would have taken us up, his first season will live in the memory but to have the players disposal in the promotion season and play the football we did was atrocious, we was flying top of the league and still played negative football.. 'oh he taken us up' yes spending 20 million in total with fees and wages.

The funny part is how people actually believe he would have kept us up when he won 3 home games and 1 away in half the season.. he was never keeping us up.

20 million? And the rest. 33 million we spent the year we went up.

We barely scored a goal away to all these sides we were going to apparently beat at home 2nd half of the season. Laughable.

Makes me laugh when people play the Malky didn't spend any money first season card. He inherited a very good spine of a team from Jones. Yes we'd lost Chopra, Bellers and Bothroyd but he inherited Marshall, Hudson, Whitts, Mcphail, Superkev, Conway and then was given plenty of money in wages to sign the likes of Gunnarson, Cowie, Taylor, Turner, Miller, Mason. etc

They like to make it sound like we were Blackool 2014/15 but we were anything but.

Didn't know the exact amount but knew it was over 20 million on top of the summer when we got promoted to the Prem he spent.

Did inherit a good team but can't take away the achievements in the process though, especially the amount of games we played that season he first came in.

I don't know where the idea came from he would keep us up.. we were dreadful.. scrapping 0-0 draw v Norwich away etc.. for the amount of money we spent the position we was in was laughable when you look at Hull and Palace that season.

Milky was on the rob, football was shit, remember being at Palace away in the Prem, one of those teams away from home you have got to go and take points off, we are 1 down playing one up front twenty to go every City fan in the ground shouting begging for him to throw another striker on and go 2 up front, no he puts a striker on but takes one off.
Twenty to go chasing the game God knows what he was thinking.

Oh and it wasn't his fault Wigan went down it was Tans, even Annis couldn't come out with that shit cracker!!!!

It's obvious Malky's disaster at Wigan was because of one man. Tan couldn't allow Malky to concentrate on his job and Tan's disruption had a negative effect on everyone at Wigan; from Malky, to Dave Whelan, to the players, Tan turned Wigan into a complete circus full of uncertainty. Wigan was anything but a settled football club and it was impossible for Malky to turn Wigan's fortunes around under those circumstances.

How anyone can say Malky only succeeded with backing with us is laughable though. Malky took us to the Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first season where he spent very little. He took over a squad of 10 professionals and assembled our squad with mostly free transfers. Malky's work in his first season enabled us to walk the Championship by 8 points second season with a bit of financial backing.

We were also well on course to surviving our first season in the Premiership until Tan interfered. Liverpool and Chelsea were the only top half Premiership teams left to play at home in the second half of the season and I have no doubt Malky would have got us at least a few more wins at home than Ole managed, which would have been enough for survival.

There is still no evidence of Malky milking our club dry, Cornelius was obviously a bad signing but Malky had no control over the transfer fee and wages. Cornelius had just won the Danish young player of the year award and had just broken into the Danish national team when we signed him. Unfortunately it didn't work out, but to say the transfer fee and wages was all Malky's doing is nonsense.

If Malky was really a racist, would Kim have signed for him a second time? Would Caulker and Fraizer Campbell stick up for him? The amount of bitterness towards Malky is astonishing considering there isn't a shred of evidence. Unfortunately, some of us have been manipulated by Tan. I will always remember Malky as our greatest manager during my life time and if it's proven in the future that Malky was out of order, I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

This first paragraph has to be a wind up??? either that or you need to change your medication.

It's obvious Malky's disaster at Wigan was because of one man. Tan couldn't allow Malky to concentrate on his job and Tan's disruption had a negative effect on everyone at Wigan; from Malky, to Dave Whelan, to the players, Tan turned Wigan into a complete circus full of uncertainty. Wigan was anything but a settled football club and it was impossible for Malky to turn Wigan's fortunes around under those circumstances.

How anyone can say Malky only succeeded with backing with us is laughable though. Malky took us to the Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first season where he spent very little. He took over a squad of 10 professionals and assembled our squad with mostly free transfers. Malky's work in his first season enabled us to walk the Championship by 8 points second season with a bit of financial backing.

We were also well on course to surviving our first season in the Premiership until Tan interfered. Liverpool and Chelsea were the only top half Premiership teams left to play at home in the second half of the season and I have no doubt Malky would have got us at least a few more wins at home than Ole managed, which would have been enough for survival.

There is still no evidence of Malky milking our club dry, Cornelius was obviously a bad signing but Malky had no control over the transfer fee and wages. Cornelius had just won the Danish young player of the year award and had just broken into the Danish national team when we signed him. Unfortunately it didn't work out, but to say the transfer fee and wages was all Malky's doing is nonsense.

If Malky was really a racist, would Kim have signed for him a second time? Would Caulker and Fraizer Campbell stick up for him? The amount of bitterness towards Malky is astonishing considering there isn't a shred of evidence. Unfortunately, some of us have been manipulated by Tan. I will always remember Malky as our greatest manager during my life time and if it's proven in the future that Malky was out of order, I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

This first paragraph has to be a wind up??? either that or you need to change your medication.

Thought exactly the same until I saw who the poster was.

It's obvious Malky's disaster at Wigan was because of one man. Tan couldn't allow Malky to concentrate on his job and Tan's disruption had a negative effect on everyone at Wigan; from Malky, to Dave Whelan, to the players, Tan turned Wigan into a complete circus full of uncertainty. Wigan was anything but a settled football club and it was impossible for Malky to turn Wigan's fortunes around under those circumstances.

How anyone can say Malky only succeeded with backing with us is laughable though. Malky took us to the Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first season where he spent very little. He took over a squad of 10 professionals and assembled our squad with mostly free transfers. Malky's work in his first season enabled us to walk the Championship by 8 points second season with a bit of financial backing.

We were also well on course to surviving our first season in the Premiership until Tan interfered. Liverpool and Chelsea were the only top half Premiership teams left to play at home in the second half of the season and I have no doubt Malky would have got us at least a few more wins at home than Ole managed, which would have been enough for survival.

There is still no evidence of Malky milking our club dry, Cornelius was obviously a bad signing but Malky had no control over the transfer fee and wages. Cornelius had just won the Danish young player of the year award and had just broken into the Danish national team when we signed him. Unfortunately it didn't work out, but to say the transfer fee and wages was all Malky's doing is nonsense.

If Malky was really a racist, would Kim have signed for him a second time? Would Caulker and Fraizer Campbell stick up for him? The amount of bitterness towards Malky is astonishing considering there isn't a shred of evidence. Unfortunately, some of us have been manipulated by Tan. I will always remember Malky as our greatest manager during my life time and if it's proven in the future that Malky was out of order, I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

This first paragraph has to be a wind up??? either that or you need to change your medication.

Thought exactly the same until I saw who the poster was.

So you're all saying you think players in an unhappy, uncertain environment are going to perform just as well as in a happy, stable environment. You're all crazy!

It's obvious Malky's disaster at Wigan was because of one man. Tan couldn't allow Malky to concentrate on his job and Tan's disruption had a negative effect on everyone at Wigan; from Malky, to Dave Whelan, to the players, Tan turned Wigan into a complete circus full of uncertainty. Wigan was anything but a settled football club and it was impossible for Malky to turn Wigan's fortunes around under those circumstances.

How anyone can say Malky only succeeded with backing with us is laughable though. Malky took us to the Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first season where he spent very little. He took over a squad of 10 professionals and assembled our squad with mostly free transfers. Malky's work in his first season enabled us to walk the Championship by 8 points second season with a bit of financial backing.

We were also well on course to surviving our first season in the Premiership until Tan interfered. Liverpool and Chelsea were the only top half Premiership teams left to play at home in the second half of the season and I have no doubt Malky would have got us at least a few more wins at home than Ole managed, which would have been enough for survival.

There is still no evidence of Malky milking our club dry, Cornelius was obviously a bad signing but Malky had no control over the transfer fee and wages. Cornelius had just won the Danish young player of the year award and had just broken into the Danish national team when we signed him. Unfortunately it didn't work out, but to say the transfer fee and wages was all Malky's doing is nonsense.

If Malky was really a racist, would Kim have signed for him a second time? Would Caulker and Fraizer Campbell stick up for him? The amount of bitterness towards Malky is astonishing considering there isn't a shred of evidence. Unfortunately, some of us have been manipulated by Tan. I will always remember Malky as our greatest manager during my life time and if it's proven in the future that Malky was out of order, I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

This first paragraph has to be a wind up??? either that or you need to change your medication.

Thought exactly the same until I saw who the poster was.

So you're all saying you think players in an unhappy, uncertain environment are going to perform just as well as in a happy, stable environment. You're all crazy!

You are spot on. It's all Tan's fault that Wigan are struggling, I'm sure Tan affected everyone at Wigan. I should think most of their players were losing sleep because of old Vinnie. I expect he is behind Sunderland's problems as well.

It's obvious Malky's disaster at Wigan was because of one man. Tan couldn't allow Malky to concentrate on his job and Tan's disruption had a negative effect on everyone at Wigan; from Malky, to Dave Whelan, to the players, Tan turned Wigan into a complete circus full of uncertainty. Wigan was anything but a settled football club and it was impossible for Malky to turn Wigan's fortunes around under those circumstances.

How anyone can say Malky only succeeded with backing with us is laughable though. Malky took us to the Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first season where he spent very little. He took over a squad of 10 professionals and assembled our squad with mostly free transfers. Malky's work in his first season enabled us to walk the Championship by 8 points second season with a bit of financial backing.

We were also well on course to surviving our first season in the Premiership until Tan interfered. Liverpool and Chelsea were the only top half Premiership teams left to play at home in the second half of the season and I have no doubt Malky would have got us at least a few more wins at home than Ole managed, which would have been enough for survival.

There is still no evidence of Malky milking our club dry, Cornelius was obviously a bad signing but Malky had no control over the transfer fee and wages. Cornelius had just won the Danish young player of the year award and had just broken into the Danish national team when we signed him. Unfortunately it didn't work out, but to say the transfer fee and wages was all Malky's doing is nonsense.

If Malky was really a racist, would Kim have signed for him a second time? Would Caulker and Fraizer Campbell stick up for him? The amount of bitterness towards Malky is astonishing considering there isn't a shred of evidence. Unfortunately, some of us have been manipulated by Tan. I will always remember Malky as our greatest manager during my life time and if it's proven in the future that Malky was out of order, I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

This first paragraph has to be a wind up??? either that or you need to change your medication.

Thought exactly the same until I saw who the poster was.

So you're all saying you think players in an unhappy, uncertain environment are going to perform just as well as in a happy, stable environment. You're all crazy!

Why was it uncertain? Malky was nowhere near Cardiff and Wigan employed him despite what was happening at Cardiff. You are just assuming this and just clutching at straws as to find another way to blame Tan for something. It's quite pathetic really.

You've got form for writing silly posts on here and other posters can agree with that but, this is by far one of the silliest by a mile. You've basically made it up.

Tan has had his faults but to blame him for another mans failure at another club is mental.

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

Took over us with 8 players and got us to a Cup Final and the Play Offs, then with money got us to the Premier League , never in the bottom 3 sacked and we go down!!!

So yes that makes him a shit Manager !!!!!

If anyone was given the money Malky was people like DJ would have taken us up, his first season will live in the memory but to have the players disposal in the promotion season and play the football we did was atrocious, we was flying top of the league and still played negative football.. 'oh he taken us up' yes spending 20 million in total with fees and wages.

The funny part is how people actually believe he would have kept us up when he won 3 home games and 1 away in half the season.. he was never keeping us up.

20 million? And the rest. 33 million we spent the year we went up.

We barely scored a goal away to all these sides we were going to apparently beat at home 2nd half of the season. Laughable.

Makes me laugh when people play the Malky didn't spend any money first season card. He inherited a very good spine of a team from Jones. Yes we'd lost Chopra, Bellers and Bothroyd but he inherited Marshall, Hudson, Whitts, Mcphail, Superkev, Conway and then was given plenty of money in wages to sign the likes of Gunnarson, Cowie, Taylor, Turner, Miller, Mason. etc

They like to make it sound like we were Blackool 2014/15 but we were anything but.

No he didn't for a start he bought Conway and before that he was left with about 8 players

Has for his spending look atthe players that got sold that he bought most of them we got our money back except for AC who everyone agrees was a bad buy, Joe Maseon bought for 350K sold for 3.5 million

If anyone was given the money Malky was people like DJ would have taken us up, his first season will live in the memory but to have the players disposal in the promotion season and play the football we did was atrocious, we was flying top of the league and still played negative football.. 'oh he taken us up' yes spending 20 million in total with fees and wages.

The funny part is how people actually believe he would have kept us up when he won 3 home games and 1 away in half the season.. he was never keeping us up.

20 million? And the rest. 33 million we spent the year we went up.

We barely scored a goal away to all these sides we were going to apparently beat at home 2nd half of the season. Laughable.

Makes me laugh when people play the Malky didn't spend any money first season card. He inherited a very good spine of a team from Jones. Yes we'd lost Chopra, Bellers and Bothroyd but he inherited Marshall, Hudson, Whitts, Mcphail, Superkev, Conway and then was given plenty of money in wages to sign the likes of Gunnarson, Cowie, Taylor, Turner, Miller, Mason. etc

They like to make it sound like we were Blackool 2014/15 but we were anything but.

No he didn't for a start he bought Conway and before that he was left with about 8 players

Has for his spending look atthe players that got sold that he bought most of them we got our money back except for AC who everyone agrees was a bad buy, Joe Maseon bought for 350K sold for 3.5 million

My mistake on Conway however the players he inherited were the nucleus of a team that finished in the play offs the two previous seasons including the best keeper and one of the best centre halfs and midfielders in the league. He was also given a decent budget including wages to bring in the likes of Turner, Gunnarson, Taylor, Cowie, Conway, Miller.etc therefore play offs should have been expected seeing as we were a club that had been knocking around them for 3 / 4 seasons.

Did well to get us to the cup final although we didn't exactly have the most difficult of routes playing against championship clubs at home.

Please stop talking nonsense on the players he bought and sold. The fact we got our money back on Caulker and Medel doesn't deserve any praise as the money should have been spent more wisely in the first place. Hull and Palce spent a fraction of what we did and got much better squads.

So we made some money on Mutch and Mason. What about the money wasted on AC? Did we get our money back on Maynard? KTC? Kiss? Kimbo? Tommy Smith?

If anyone was given the money Malky was people like DJ would have taken us up, his first season will live in the memory but to have the players disposal in the promotion season and play the football we did was atrocious, we was flying top of the league and still played negative football.. 'oh he taken us up' yes spending 20 million in total with fees and wages.

The funny part is how people actually believe he would have kept us up when he won 3 home games and 1 away in half the season.. he was never keeping us up.

20 million? And the rest. 33 million we spent the year we went up.

We barely scored a goal away to all these sides we were going to apparently beat at home 2nd half of the season. Laughable.

Makes me laugh when people play the Malky didn't spend any money first season card. He inherited a very good spine of a team from Jones. Yes we'd lost Chopra, Bellers and Bothroyd but he inherited Marshall, Hudson, Whitts, Mcphail, Superkev, Conway and then was given plenty of money in wages to sign the likes of Gunnarson, Cowie, Taylor, Turner, Miller, Mason. etc

They like to make it sound like we were Blackool 2014/15 but we were anything but.

No he didn't for a start he bought Conway and before that he was left with about 8 players

Has for his spending look atthe players that got sold that he bought most of them we got our money back except for AC who everyone agrees was a bad buy, Joe Maseon bought for 350K sold for 3.5 million

My mistake on Conway however the players he inherited were the nucleus of a team that finished in the play offs the two previous seasons including the best keeper and one of the best centre halfs and midfielders in the league. He was also given a decent budget including wages to bring in the likes of Turner, Gunnarson, Taylor, Cowie, Conway, Miller.etc therefore play offs should have been expected seeing as we were a club that had been knocking around them for 3 / 4 seasons.

Did well to get us to the cup final although we didn't exactly have the most difficult of routes playing against championship clubs at home.

Please stop talking nonsense on the players he bought and sold. The fact we got our money back on Caulker and Medel doesn't deserve any praise as the money should have been spent more wisely in the first place. Hull and Palce spent a fraction of what we did and got much better squads.

So we made some money on Mutch and Mason. What about the money wasted on AC? Did we get our money back on Maynard? KTC? Kiss? Kimbo? Tommy Smith?

No we didn't get our back on said players because Malky was sacked by then and Tan wanted the decks cleared, not Malky's fault

dave jones was giving plenty of money and failed he spent loads on wages for loan deals he was giving money where all this he had no money is from I don't know.

Argue all you like but the fact is and it will be down in our history

The first and only time for now Cardiff City was promoted to the top league was by manager Malky Mackay

dave jones was giving plenty of money and failed he spent loads on wages for loan deals he was giving money where all this he had no money is from I don't know.

Argue all you like but the fact is and it will be down in our history

The first and only time for now Cardiff City was promoted to the top league was by manager Malky Mackay

I think if you check our history you will find that was not the first and only time we have been promoted to the top league.

What happened at Wigan was already well underway when they took on Malky.

Comparing his time at Cardiff to his time at Wigan is laughable.

How much did he spend to get us promoted? Other clubs spent alot more and never went up with us. Some of the football was awful to watch but there was also some cracking performances, a cup run and a Championship title.

He did spend obscene cash once we went up, some of it very badly. That lies with the board who allowed it to happen. Give managers money and they will spend it, esepcially if the cheque signers don't supervise goings on.

Football fans can be so fickle, as threads like this can sometimes show. Dave Jones sides played some smashing stuff and fans wanted him out too.

Never happy.

What happened at Wigan was already well underway when they took on Malky.

Comparing his time at Cardiff to his time at Wigan is laughable.

How much did he spend to get us promoted? Other clubs spent alot more and never went up with us. Some of the football was awful to watch but there was also some cracking performances, a cup run and a Championship title.

He did spend obscene cash once we went up, some of it very badly. That lies with the board who allowed it to happen. Give managers money and they will spend it, esepcially if the cheque signers don't supervise goings on.

Football fans can be so fickle, as threads like this can sometimes show. Dave Jones sides played some smashing stuff and fans wanted him out too.

Never happy.

100% SPOT ON Paul

I've always felt he was over rated he had success with us because he was given the right to spend alot of money both transfers and wages but still only got the 1 good season we was heading for relegation in the prem if we sacked him or not and we was around the 6th highest spenders in that time and the finances gone out on them wages and transfer fees made a big impact on our bad finances now and we all knew the football wasn't great but we didn't care in the Championship as we where getting results alot of fans still love him but in my View Warnock is the best manager we have had since we harshly sacked Dave Jones who got us results whilst selling our best players and bringing in players free or loans if Dave Jones was given the backing Malky got I feel we would be in a much better position than we are but the feel good factor is finally returning under Warnock

Malky spent what he was given and we got money back on virtually all of his signings. Wages might have cost serious money but he didn't negotiate those. Home games against Hull, West Ham, Norwich, Sunderland, Palace, Villa all still to play before his sacking, I think we might have done it.

Well said.

I second that and I have to say there's some utter crap in this topic, Malky got given a job to do and without a doubt more than succeeded in what he was asked to do, the Dictator had to take responsibility for the down fall of our club

Yep agree when Malky took over he didn't have enough players to make up a side, the fact he got CCFC into the Premier was marvellous, and in my 50 odd years of supporting the club only Jimmy Scoular can match him, with wins against Real Madrid, and reaching the semi finals of the European cup winners cup, I would have either off these managers back tomoz, we must realise that Warnock is only a short term fix, and Scouler of course is sitting in the Grangetown End of innian in the sky !