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Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:24 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:I absolutely would be blue and league 2 than PL and red.

This is the reason I walked away in 2012 and Cardiff City was my life, home and away. I know City are back to blue, which is great, but I just have not the passion to return right now. its gone but I hope that one day it will return as its in my heart and will never leave.


And I know hundreds like yourself who I highly Respect you for it as what they did to our club was the worst ever you could do, I nearly walked away but stayed on to fight for our identity, but I respect both,BUT NEVER A RED :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluescarf:

I keep telling Wez,Allan etc this is the reason why our club is still hurt/broken and has No real Passion.


That is so true Annis. I never thought I could live without my fix of City but the rebrand made me walk away. I had a season ticket since 1993 and watched City home and away did not want to be theresince 1969.
It was so hard not to return when City were storming the league and going on a 10 win run at home. But they were red not blue so it stuck in my pit of my stomach.
I will confess that I did attend the Newcastle game at home in the PL as my wife is Asian and she wanted to go so I gave in, but the minute I ordered my tickets I knew it was wrong. The walk to the stadium seeing people dressed in red made me feel sick and I did not want to be there.
When I got home I vowed I would never return if City were red. I know they are now blue but I have not returned yet as I have lost the passion I once had. I still look at the results and hope City win every time but when they lose, it does not hurt as much as it once did.
But once a bluebird always a bluebird :ayatollah:



I wish I would have done the same to be honest looking back. But I found it too hard to walk away and thought I'd be more use staying and protesting for a return to blue unless a mass boycott was organised. I think the moment it was announced a mass boycott should have been organised but we were lacking the organisation between fans and the divide split the fanbase.



Well it was not easy and at the time I wanted everyone to walk away, though I knew that would never happen. I wanted to take part in the marches but I knew if I did I probably would be too vocal for some so decided not to attend. City has a split fan base and it will take time to rebuild, but it will be rebuilt one day of that im sure. Football goes in circles and one day City will be as it once was, loyal, proud and vocal.
Right now I have forgiven Tan as I see him trying to do the right thing, although its at a cost I guess.

So as the OP says, its league 2 and blue for me even though I don't go anymore so maybe its a little rich of me to say.

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:26 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:I absolutely would be blue and league 2 than PL and red.

This is the reason I walked away in 2012 and Cardiff City was my life, home and away. I know City are back to blue, which is great, but I just have not the passion to return right now. its gone but I hope that one day it will return as its in my heart and will never leave.


And I know hundreds like yourself who I highly Respect you for it as what they did to our club was the worst ever you could do, I nearly walked away but stayed on to fight for our identity, but I respect both,BUT NEVER A RED :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluescarf:

I keep telling Wez,Allan etc this is the reason why our club is still hurt/broken and has No real Passion.


That is so true Annis. I never thought I could live without my fix of City but the rebrand made me walk away. I had a season ticket since 1993 and watched City home and away did not want to be theresince 1969.
It was so hard not to return when City were storming the league and going on a 10 win run at home. But they were red not blue so it stuck in my pit of my stomach.
I will confess that I did attend the Newcastle game at home in the PL as my wife is Asian and she wanted to go so I gave in, but the minute I ordered my tickets I knew it was wrong. The walk to the stadium seeing people dressed in red made me feel sick and I did not want to be there.
When I got home I vowed I would never return if City were red. I know they are now blue but I have not returned yet as I have lost the passion I once had. I still look at the results and hope City win every time but when they lose, it does not hurt as much as it once did.
But once a bluebird always a bluebird :ayatollah:



I honestly feel for good/diehard fans like yourself and fans like yourself are why I am so Bitter against Tan and Co and his Red followers and as time goes on fans like yourself find new things in life to do,but at heart are always Bluebirds :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:36 pm

I honestly feel for good/diehard fans like yourself and fans like yourself are why I am so Bitter against Tan and Co and his Red followers and as time goes on fans like yourself find new things in life to do,but at heart are always Bluebirds :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:[/quote]


It was awful but this is modern football. We as fans should stick together as this club and any other club in the land is nothing without its fans. This is our identity and even though its broken right now, things will return to normal one day, probably when Tan has gone.

As I say I will return one day when the passion is there and so will many more, although if City were top of the league then there would be 25k easily as its a club with a big fan base. :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:38 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:I honestly feel for good/diehard fans like yourself and fans like yourself are why I am so Bitter against Tan and Co and his Red followers and as time goes on fans like yourself find new things in life to do,but at heart are always Bluebirds :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:



It was awful but this is modern football. We as fans should stick together as this club and any other club in the land is nothing without its fans. This is our identity and even though its broken right now, things will return to normal one day, probably when Tan has gone.

As I say I will return one day when the passion is there and so will many more, although if City were top of the league then there would be 25k easily as its a club with a big fan base. :bluescarf: :bluebird:[/quote]


Its really sad as many diehards like yourself that I know will still not return and they are the ones who generated a lot of passion.
One day We will be back :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:42 pm

yes we will be back one day :bluebird:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:44 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:yes we will be back one day :bluebird:


We certainly will :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: Rather be Blue in League Two

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:26 pm

polo wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
polo wrote:
wayne wrote:It’s obvious the mass majority have voted with there feet. The majority wants to see a successful team and didn't care about the colour. but in the end the minority won the day


If thats the case why are the minority, well some of the vocal minority, talking about protesting just because the team isnt winning!?!?!?!



Wasn't that just one idiot on this forum?


No, several on the Bluebirds Unite Facebook page. Not Sian may I add, members of the page.

You cant have the mantra "Rather be Blue in League Two" then stage protests because we are doing shit in the Championship. Not in my book anyway.

agree

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:29 pm

The two and a half seasons in red were the worst ever. There was success in 2012/13, but let's not forget that 2013/14 was a relegation season, and a pretty miserable one at that. Can't say I'm thrilled to be bottom of the Championship, but it's better than playing in an alien colour at home. Having said that, the rebrand has come and gone. Those of us who stuck supporting the City throughout, and protesting at the same time, can be proud of our role. The rebrand was worse than anything that happens on the pitch. Now it's time to move on. It's not either, or. We're Cardiff City, we'll always be blue! If some people don't want to support the City because we're not doing well, then fair enough, but using the rebrand as an excuse is pretty feeble. It's gone! :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:37 pm

It's a very sad state of affairs that I think at best cannot be healed in the next 20 years. I feel if we as supporters were more assertive. And the owner more assertive things would have worked out a lot better for all.

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:19 pm

I said back then before all this red crap come about and false promises of ££3 id rather take a points deduction and drop a league and I still stick by that. :thumbup: :thumbup:

The passions dead at the ccs, go when I feel like or when it suits me and work its as simple as that. There was times when I would go short years ago to make a home or away game now I got better things to do if I'm not at the ccs. We are all customers now like tan says. I can not wait for him to f**k off. Modern football as a whole is like a trip to asda. I cant not even bring myself to watch match of the day anymore :lol:

When it suits me now that's my motto :old:

Re: Rather be Blue in League Two

Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:18 pm

polo wrote:I look on the Bluebirds Unite Facebook page now and again and the double standards are astounding. Truly astounding.

Only last week someone wanted to protest becausde Tan wouldnt put his hand in his pocket, this the same guy who they wanted out!!!
.


I looked on this messageboard once and someone said they supported Swansea, does that mean Annis does as well because this is his messageboard?

For your information Bluebirds Unite was only ever set up to campaign for 1 issue, the restoration of our identity. We haven't met up since the rebrand was reversed and we returned to blue on the 10th Jan 2015. The Bluebirds Unite facebook page may still be running, but that is only because we haven't shut the page down. There are certainly no plans that I'm aware of to start a campaign on any other issue.

Re: Rather be Blue in League Two

Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:22 pm

joncandy wrote:
polo wrote:I look on the Bluebirds Unite Facebook page now and again and the double standards are astounding. Truly astounding.

Only last week someone wanted to protest becausde Tan wouldnt put his hand in his pocket, this the same guy who they wanted out!!!
.


I looked on this messageboard once and someone said they supported Swansea, does that mean Annis does as well because this is his messageboard?

For your information Bluebirds Unite was only ever set up to campaign for 1 issue, the restoration of our identity. We haven't met up since the rebrand was reversed and we returned to blue on the 10th Jan 2015. The Bluebirds Unite facebook page may still be running, but that is only because we haven't shut the page down. There are certainly no plans that I'm aware of to start a campaign on any other issue.


Pipe down muggles. I never said Bluebirds United were planning a protest I said members who post on their page and also pointed out it wasn't Sian.

Read the whole thread before getting your frillies in a twist.
Last edited by polo on Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:23 pm

I'm the same looking back I maybe would have made a point and walked. At the time I found it too difficult too. I always thought we would return to Blue but didn't think it would last so long. Premiership had the say in it continuing

Re: Rather be Blue in League Two

Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:47 pm

polo wrote:
joncandy wrote:
polo wrote:I look on the Bluebirds Unite Facebook page now and again and the double standards are astounding. Truly astounding.

Only last week someone wanted to protest becausde Tan wouldnt put his hand in his pocket, this the same guy who they wanted out!!!
.


I looked on this messageboard once and someone said they supported Swansea, does that mean Annis does as well because this is his messageboard?

For your information Bluebirds Unite was only ever set up to campaign for 1 issue, the restoration of our identity. We haven't met up since the rebrand was reversed and we returned to blue on the 10th Jan 2015. The Bluebirds Unite facebook page may still be running, but that is only because we haven't shut the page down. There are certainly no plans that I'm aware of to start a campaign on any other issue.


Pipe down muggles. I never said Bluebirds United were planning a protest I said members who post on their page and also pointed out it wasn't Sian.

Read the whole thread before getting your frillies in a twist.

:lol: having a bad day today my friend :lol:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:45 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:I absolutely would be blue and league 2 than PL and red.

This is the reason I walked away in 2012 and Cardiff City was my life, home and away. I know City are back to blue, which is great, but I just have not the passion to return right now. its gone but I hope that one day it will return as its in my heart and will never leave.


You summed it up for me. Haven't been since the rebrand. It's not about winning for me, it's about the passion and it's somehow gone, maybe league two and blue would reignite it, small crowds but it will be like before, only vocal crowds and no prawns. Cheaper tickets .

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:57 pm

polo wrote:Come on. Own up.

How many of you said this are now crying because we are having a difficult time in the Championship?

How many crying when Tan was getting us furthetr in debt are now crying cos he wont put his hand in his pocket anymore?

Any takers?

I said it and I mean it. Lower league grounds ? Bring it on :D

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:53 pm

I followed the city before the success, during the success and now I'll continue after successful years and may there be more success on the horizon for us. I'd rather be in blue AND YELLOW in the premier league if I had a choice, but never red. It's almost like that season in red wasn't us in the premier league, almost like its void ...I'm not saying I'm ungrateful for it, Just that when one day we are promoted to the premier league in blue....it'll be the first time we've ever been up there, because we will have our identity. Cardiff City Fc, like when we won the FA cup in 1927, our identity was in tact then!

Every 10 years it seems our promotion occurs, 93,2003,2013....those glory fans come back in 2023!

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:38 am

It seems strange looking over history of many of the bigger clubs that a Huge amount of them changed kit colour and club badges. Most of them when football clubs really were part of the community made up of mostly local players. It shocks me that even in the good old days fans stuck by they club when they changed colour and club badge and a load of them moved on to much bigger and greater things, as one unified group. Maybe we could have learnt lessons from the past when football clubs really were the heart of the community that changes are part of life. Chelsea have about 4
Different badges we changed our god knows how many times since I've been alive. So really I ask what made this change so much worse than what's happened to all the other clubs in the past?
Are that insecure as a group of fans? Maybe we are maybe not is there more to it than a simple answer like that? I think so.
Playing in div 4 and 3 was great fun at the time, but that will never get recreated it's a family game now even down in those leagues. None of us will ever recapture those days and experiences. The closest we could get is getting into Europe now and then won't happen in league 2 no matter what colour we are.

I like everyone one to pull together forget the nightmare few years and forgive and forget and move forward as
One unified team.

Re: Rather be Blue in League Two

Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:43 am

Forever Blue wrote:Chris,
I stand by it and would rather have been in Blue and in Division Two(Old 4th Division) than go through what we have under Tan :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

I watched City for 9 years in Division 4 and never missed a game home or away and our fans were small in number but together/united and a bond with our players etc :bluebird: :bluebird:



1 & half seasons away from it ...if it happens, I still be there my only fear is could it be sooner & worse as if it goes big time tits up, winding up order, as No one knows what Debt we in & Tans walks and no one comes in !!!!!... We do it the Swansea way and start from a quid :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluebird: :bluebird: :digging2: :digging2:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:53 am

in the past, it's gone, hope we pick up but if we go down who knows ..could be a god send
llangainbluebird wrote:The two and a half seasons in red were the worst ever. There was success in 2012/13, but let's not forget that 2013/14 was a relegation season, and a pretty miserable one at that. Can't say I'm thrilled to be bottom of the Championship, but it's better than playing in an alien colour at home. Having said that, the rebrand has come and gone. Those of us who stuck supporting the City throughout, and protesting at the same time, can be proud of our role. The rebrand was worse than anything that happens on the pitch. Now it's time to move on. It's not either, or. We're Cardiff City, we'll always be blue! If some people don't want to support the City because we're not doing well, then fair enough, but using the rebrand as an excuse is pretty feeble. It's gone! :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:02 am

Interesting to read -

I wonder if this is why fans of other clubs have decided to start newco clubs - Wimbledon, FC United, and although not in protest, the new City of Liverpool FC.

I guess they get disillusioned with owners, and the style of football on offer? With the location of the clubs I guess geographically they can do it, as they are much bigger areas?

It's also an interesting idea fan ownership - check out on BBC I player Reggie Yates touchdown USA - it's a doc on the Green Bay Packers as its a relatively small area but the club is one of the most successful AND fan owned!

Was really good and I think fans should be apart of the ownership process perhaps even have a ruling where only a certain % can be bought by a company and the remaining has to be held within a fan base???

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:44 pm

If we were still in Premiership and playing in Red we would be playing to full houses with brilliant atmospheres,FACT,look at Welsh games,they play in Red?

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:51 pm

Look forward to seeing you in the first division. It wont be that difficult to meet up, there will only be about five thousand in the ground.

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:08 am

I'd rather be blue in league 2. Tan has failed at being a football club owner. He really blew it getting us relegated by hiring OGS instead of an experienced manager. He failed by turning into a red team too as it has put off many of his "customers".

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:05 am

Fergy1927 wrote:I'd rather be blue in league 2. Tan has failed at being a football club owner. He really blew it getting us relegated by hiring OGS instead of an experienced manager. He failed by turning into a red team too as it has put off many of his "customers".

did he failed when we got promoted and had our biggest average attendances for many years ?

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:06 am

Fergy1927 wrote:I'd rather be blue in league 2. Tan has failed at being a football club owner. He really blew it getting us relegated by hiring OGS instead of an experienced manager. He failed by turning into a red team too as it has put off many of his "customers".

did he failed when we got promoted and had our biggest average attendances for many years ?

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:22 am

wez1927 wrote:
Fergy1927 wrote:I'd rather be blue in league 2. Tan has failed at being a football club owner. He really blew it getting us relegated by hiring OGS instead of an experienced manager. He failed by turning into a red team too as it has put off many of his "customers".

did he failed when we got promoted and had our biggest average attendances for many years ?

Think we'll be in a better position to judge at the end of his reign here. We know the financial position with regards to how much debt we were in when he took over, and we know where we were in the league. We will be able to compare easily enough when he eventually sells up.

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:25 am

dont get this sentiment personally.

You be someone who would rather see us in blue in league two than red in the prem AND still be unhappy at the way things are going right now.

Just because you will always support the club no matter what division they are in doesnt mean you cant be pissed off with being bottom of the championship

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:45 am

How anybody could argue red in the Premier League versus blue in League Two is beyond me. It's not even an argument right now. I'm appalled at us being bottom of the Championship but just because I'd rather see us playing in blue in any division as opposed to red in the Premier League doesn't mean I can't give a shit about our progress. How's this for an idea? Blue in the Premier League. Now there's a f*cking plan.

Re: " Rather be Blue in League Two "

Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:15 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Fergy1927 wrote:I'd rather be blue in league 2. Tan has failed at being a football club owner. He really blew it getting us relegated by hiring OGS instead of an experienced manager. He failed by turning into a red team too as it has put off many of his "customers".

did he failed when we got promoted and had our biggest average attendances for many years ?

Think we'll be in a better position to judge at the end of his reign here. We know the financial position with regards to how much debt we were in when he took over, and we know where we were in the league. We will be able to compare easily enough when he eventually sells up.

very true 63 million when he took over down to 40 million maybe now ?