Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:07 pm
Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:04 pm
angelis1949 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Deal with it!
That dreaded word "transition" has reared it's ugly head once again,I seem to recall Slade using the word transition to explain away poor performances and now I see apologists for poor performances using the same word again
Genuine question for you Angelis - how far back do we have to go for you to have been moderately happy as a City fan?
I'm pretty sure I can recall you moaning about the management back to at least the Dave Jones era. You've definitely been anti Malky, Ole, Slade and now Trollope - so who was the last city manager your thought was worth his salt?
What about Schoular, Ashurst or even Eddie May? Has there ever been a point with the City where you were not generally pissed off?
I will always be true to my opinions on all things Cardiff City,what anyone thinks of those opinions I care little,I will never walk around with rose tinted spectacles planted over my eyes nor will I carry a bucket of sand for me to occasional bury my head in and being a supporter for over 50 years entitles me to voice my opinions without having to justify them to the likes of you
Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:28 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Deal with it!
That dreaded word "transition" has reared it's ugly head once again,I seem to recall Slade using the word transition to explain away poor performances and now I see apologists for poor performances using the same word again
Genuine question for you Angelis - how far back do we have to go for you to have been moderately happy as a City fan?
I'm pretty sure I can recall you moaning about the management back to at least the Dave Jones era. You've definitely been anti Malky, Ole, Slade and now Trollope - so who was the last city manager your thought was worth his salt?
What about Schoular, Ashurst or even Eddie May? Has there ever been a point with the City where you were not generally pissed off?
I will always be true to my opinions on all things Cardiff City,what anyone thinks of those opinions I care little,I will never walk around with rose tinted spectacles planted over my eyes nor will I carry a bucket of sand for me to occasional bury my head in and being a supporter for over 50 years entitles me to voice my opinions without having to justify them to the likes of you
You still haven't answered the guys question have you ever been happy as a city fan? or even close?
Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:34 pm
angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Deal with it!
That dreaded word "transition" has reared it's ugly head once again,I seem to recall Slade using the word transition to explain away poor performances and now I see apologists for poor performances using the same word again
Genuine question for you Angelis - how far back do we have to go for you to have been moderately happy as a City fan?
I'm pretty sure I can recall you moaning about the management back to at least the Dave Jones era. You've definitely been anti Malky, Ole, Slade and now Trollope - so who was the last city manager your thought was worth his salt?
What about Schoular, Ashurst or even Eddie May? Has there ever been a point with the City where you were not generally pissed off?
I will always be true to my opinions on all things Cardiff City,what anyone thinks of those opinions I care little,I will never walk around with rose tinted spectacles planted over my eyes nor will I carry a bucket of sand for me to occasional bury my head in and being a supporter for over 50 years entitles me to voice my opinions without having to justify them to the likes of you
You still haven't answered the guys question have you ever been happy as a city fan? or even close?
Read the last segment of my posting again,what part of "not having to justify my comments"do you not understand
Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:05 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Deal with it!
That dreaded word "transition" has reared it's ugly head once again,I seem to recall Slade using the word transition to explain away poor performances and now I see apologists for poor performances using the same word again
Genuine question for you Angelis - how far back do we have to go for you to have been moderately happy as a City fan?
I'm pretty sure I can recall you moaning about the management back to at least the Dave Jones era. You've definitely been anti Malky, Ole, Slade and now Trollope - so who was the last city manager your thought was worth his salt?
What about Schoular, Ashurst or even Eddie May? Has there ever been a point with the City where you were not generally pissed off?
I will always be true to my opinions on all things Cardiff City,what anyone thinks of those opinions I care little,I will never walk around with rose tinted spectacles planted over my eyes nor will I carry a bucket of sand for me to occasional bury my head in and being a supporter for over 50 years entitles me to voice my opinions without having to justify them to the likes of you
You still haven't answered the guys question have you ever been happy as a city fan? or even close?
Read the last segment of my posting again,what part of "not having to justify my comments"do you not understand
Still haven't answered the question?
Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:04 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:Sven wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Deal with it!
That dreaded word "transition" has reared it's ugly head once again,I seem to recall Slade using the word transition to explain away poor performances and now I see apologists for poor performances using the same word again
Genuine question for you Angelis - how far back do we have to go for you to have been moderately happy as a City fan?
I'm pretty sure I can recall you moaning about the management back to at least the Dave Jones era. You've definitely been anti Malky, Ole, Slade and now Trollope - so who was the last city manager your thought was worth his salt?
What about Schoular, Ashurst or even Eddie May? Has there ever been a point with the City where you were not generally pissed off?
I will always be true to my opinions on all things Cardiff City,what anyone thinks of those opinions I care little,I will never walk around with rose tinted spectacles planted over my eyes nor will I carry a bucket of sand for me to occasional bury my head in and being a supporter for over 50 years entitles me to voice my opinions without having to justify them to the likes of you
You still haven't answered the guys question have you ever been happy as a city fan? or even close?
Read the last segment of my posting again,what part of "not having to justify my comments"do you not understand
Still haven't answered the question?
Silly me!![]()
I opened this thread in the false hope that you would actually put something up that backed up your thread headline "We are in a transitional period" with something of substance in your OP but all we got was (quote) "Deal with it!"![]()
Now you are demanding people respond to you for doing the EXACT same thing you decline to do to most sensible challenges to your daft posts, i.e. answer glibly or not at all!![]()
Was there actually a point you were trying to make in starting the thread or in your OP that has value?
Oh dear you really are getting boring you just can't help yourself but being condescending I and no one else cares Mr Self Important.![]()
Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:14 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Sven wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:angelis1949 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:angelis1949 wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:Deal with it!
That dreaded word "transition" has reared it's ugly head once again,I seem to recall Slade using the word transition to explain away poor performances and now I see apologists for poor performances using the same word again
Genuine question for you Angelis - how far back do we have to go for you to have been moderately happy as a City fan?
I'm pretty sure I can recall you moaning about the management back to at least the Dave Jones era. You've definitely been anti Malky, Ole, Slade and now Trollope - so who was the last city manager your thought was worth his salt?
What about Schoular, Ashurst or even Eddie May? Has there ever been a point with the City where you were not generally pissed off?
I will always be true to my opinions on all things Cardiff City,what anyone thinks of those opinions I care little,I will never walk around with rose tinted spectacles planted over my eyes nor will I carry a bucket of sand for me to occasional bury my head in and being a supporter for over 50 years entitles me to voice my opinions without having to justify them to the likes of you
You still haven't answered the guys question have you ever been happy as a city fan? or even close?
Read the last segment of my posting again,what part of "not having to justify my comments"do you not understand
Still haven't answered the question?
Silly me!![]()
I opened this thread in the false hope that you would actually put something up that backed up your thread headline "We are in a transitional period" with something of substance in your OP but all we got was (quote) "Deal with it!"![]()
Now you are demanding people respond to you for doing the EXACT same thing you decline to do to most sensible challenges to your daft posts, i.e. answer glibly or not at all!![]()
Was there actually a point you were trying to make in starting the thread or in your OP that has value?
Oh dear you really are getting boring you just can't help yourself but being condescending I and no one else cares Mr Self Important.![]()
I have to say nobody on this forum talks as much nonsense as Rydogs. I may be wrong, but he comes across as someone who has never played a game of football in his life, and gets most, if not everything concerning the game wrong. On the plus side, I enjoy reading his posts because most of them are so ridiculous. Harmless enough, and brightens up my day.
Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:30 pm
Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:54 pm
Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:10 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:The reason why are in a transitional period and why we should back Trollope is because we can't just sack managers and bring in ones that have different styles of play we need to a style of play all the way through the academy to the first team like Swansea , Bournemouth and Southampton and when we bring through some youth they are familiar with the style the first team is playing what we are doing at the moment with 352 will take time and give Trollope the chance to make it work and we will reap the rewards when it will click but chopping and changing will just make us go around in circles and will never progress.![]()
Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:15 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:The reason why are in a transitional period and why we should back Trollope is because we can't just sack managers and bring in ones that have different styles of play we need to a style of play all the way through the academy to the first team like Swansea , Bournemouth and Southampton and when we bring through some youth they are familiar with the style the first team is playing what we are doing at the moment with 352 will take time and give Trollope the chance to make it work and we will reap the rewards when it will click but chopping and changing will just make us go around in circles and will never progress.![]()
Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:16 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:The reason why are in a transitional period and why we should back Trollope is because we can't just sack managers and bring in ones that have different styles of play we need to a style of play all the way through the academy to the first team like Swansea , Bournemouth and Southampton and when we bring through some youth they are familiar with the style the first team is playing what we are doing at the moment with 352 will take time and give Trollope the chance to make it work and we will reap the rewards when it will click but chopping and changing will just make us go around in circles and will never progress.![]()
Why didn't you say that in the first place?
While I agree with your sentiments, let's not forget that all football clubs are competing in a results driven, financial business world. Time is not a guarantee of success, and PT & Co have to deliver positive results, sooner rather than later. That's the harsh reality of it all, and if this "new model", or system of play continues to underwhelm, and not deliver,, then changes will enevitably have to be made.
Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:25 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:The reason why are in a transitional period and why we should back Trollope is because we can't just sack managers and bring in ones that have different styles of play we need to a style of play all the way through the academy to the first team like Swansea , Bournemouth and Southampton and when we bring through some youth they are familiar with the style the first team is playing what we are doing at the moment with 352 will take time and give Trollope the chance to make it work and we will reap the rewards when it will click but chopping and changing will just make us go around in circles and will never progress.![]()
Being in a transitional period should not put us at a disadvantage to most other clubs in our division. They are nearly all in the same boat, and will be next season and the season after etc. Most have signed new players who have to fit into a particular system. I don't know how many Championship managers have had two full season at their clubs, but at a guess I would'nt think the number is high, although I stand to be corrected on this. Every time a new manager is appointed, most fans agree that it may take at least half a season before his approach starts to pay dividends. This means that a lot of clubs, not just us, are in a transitional period. You could argue that most clubs are almost always in a transitional period.