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Re: Bristol Airport

Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:20 pm

I support my local airport and always fly from Cardiff.Coming home from Tenerife last Friday I sat next to a couple from Swindon who said they prefer to fly from Cardiff rather than Bristol? Use it or lose it,if it did close watch Bristol fares go thro roof?

Re: Bristol Airport

Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:31 pm

im lucky enough to go away twice a year, long hall in april. may, gatwick. heathrow, then a october . november holiday to the canary islands, must be at least 7 years ago since i found a cheaper holiday flying from cardiff, its a 7,14, 21 day holiday, cardiff dont do . 8 days, 10, 12 day holidays like bristol. thet get all confused, shit airport, sad to say. bristol is much. much better, and cheaper :roll:

Re: Bristol Airport

Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:38 pm

heres your homework for the weekend, try to get a price for an 8 day holiday to majorca , from cardiff airport in september, then try bristol :roll:

Re: Bristol Airport

Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:24 pm

ianto13 wrote:I support my local airport and always fly from Cardiff.Coming home from Tenerife last Friday I sat next to a couple from Swindon who said they prefer to fly from Cardiff rather than Bristol? Use it or lose it,if it did close watch Bristol fares go thro roof?


It's not your local pub or the village shop you plank. I want to support my local airport but I am not paying extortionate prices for the pleasure of doing so. I can get cheaper flights from Brum and Manchester than I can from Cardiff and that includes travel and more often than not a night in a hotel in those cities!

Also why would Bristol put their fares up because Cardiffs gone? They know most people in their catchment area would bugger off and fly from London airports or the Midlands if they did that just like people in Wales don't bother with Cardiff. Wales needs an airport so it won't be lost but the more people that stop using the quicker the message will get through to the people running it to make the changes necessary to bring passengers back.

Re: Bristol Airport

Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:48 pm

ninianblue wrote:heres your homework for the weekend, try to get a price for an 8 day holiday to majorca , from cardiff airport in september, then try bristol :roll:
8 day ? not 7

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:31 am

ninianblue wrote:i love the advertisement, from cardiff airport, basically you can fly any where in the world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, from amsterdam,shit airport , to expensive, cheaper from other airports, going away in, november. to lanzarote, £80 per person cheaper flying from bristol :lol:



Do Cardiff fly to lanzarote direct like Bristol? If not you can hardly go from Cardiff can you? So cannot compare or perhaps you can!!!!! Like said take budget airlines out of Bristol and it will be crap as well. :old:

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:22 am

pembroke allan wrote:
ninianblue wrote:i love the advertisement, from cardiff airport, basically you can fly any where in the world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, from amsterdam,shit airport , to expensive, cheaper from other airports, going away in, november. to lanzarote, £80 per person cheaper flying from bristol :lol:



Do Cardiff fly to lanzarote direct like Bristol? If not you can hardly go from Cardiff can you? So cannot compare or perhaps you can!!!!! Like said take budget airlines out of Bristol and it will be crap as well. :old:

Why are the budget airlines choosing Bristol over Cardiff?

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:18 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ninianblue wrote:i love the advertisement, from cardiff airport, basically you can fly any where in the world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, from amsterdam,shit airport , to expensive, cheaper from other airports, going away in, november. to lanzarote, £80 per person cheaper flying from bristol :lol:



Do Cardiff fly to lanzarote direct like Bristol? If not you can hardly go from Cardiff can you? So cannot compare or perhaps you can!!!!! Like said take budget airlines out of Bristol and it will be crap as well. :old:

Why are the budget airlines choosing Bristol over Cardiff?

they used to coz of landing fees and fuel is cheaper there but since the assembly took over things are changing cardiff is no longer pricing itself out

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:46 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ninianblue wrote:i love the advertisement, from cardiff airport, basically you can fly any where in the world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, from amsterdam,shit airport , to expensive, cheaper from other airports, going away in, november. to lanzarote, £80 per person cheaper flying from bristol :lol:



Do Cardiff fly to lanzarote direct like Bristol? If not you can hardly go from Cardiff can you? So cannot compare or perhaps you can!!!!! Like said take budget airlines out of Bristol and it will be crap as well. :old:

Why are the budget airlines choosing Bristol over Cardiff?



Probably cost but also the larger geographical area that Bristol covers compared to Cardiff, don't forget Cardiff as Been run abysmally by previous owners! at least love or hate them wag is trying to redress the past failings but will take time. :old:

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:08 pm

Cant remember the last time I flew into Cardiff when I've been back home. Always Bristol.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:14 pm

Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:51 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:13 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.



Cannot expand runway nothing stopping them expanding buildings! Also because runway is short very few if any long haul flights can go direct fully loaded. I travel on hols twice a year to Europe and never used Bristol off to turkey in ten days , Cardiff has had problems but past year it's being addressed time will tell if successful or not, And Bristol is as hard if not harder to get to than Cardiff .

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:15 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.


This is nonsense regarding Bristol being at its capacity.
I was there a couple of weeks ago and work is already in progress. As far I know there is a huge amount planned including expansion of terminals, arrivals, car parking, etc.
I was also told an onsite hotel is to be built.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:19 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.


This is nonsense regarding Bristol being at its capacity.
I was there a couple of weeks ago and work is already in progress. As far I know there is a huge amount planned including expansion of terminals, arrivals, car parking, etc.
I was also told an onsite hotel is to be built.



Can expand passenger numbers in terminals but no mention of expanding runway? ( believe they can't ) at some point they will run out of runway capacity then what?

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:22 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.



Cannot expand runway nothing stopping them expanding buildings! Also because runway is short very few if any long haul flights can go direct fully loaded. I travel on hols twice a year to Europe and never used Bristol off to turkey in ten days , Cardiff has had problems but past year it's being addressed time will tell if successful or not, And Bristol is as hard if not harder to get to than Cardiff .


I've flown from Bristol three times this year and find it simple to get to from Cardiff and easy to park.
Obviously, depends where the individual wants to fly to as regards which airport he can use. I would prefer to use Cardiff airport if they flew to where I go and matched the Ryanair/Easyjet prices but that is not the case so Bristol is fine.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:25 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.



Cannot expand runway nothing stopping them expanding buildings! Also because runway is short very few if any long haul flights can go direct fully loaded. I travel on hols twice a year to Europe and never used Bristol off to turkey in ten days , Cardiff has had problems but past year it's being addressed time will tell if successful or not, And Bristol is as hard if not harder to get to than Cardiff .


I've flown from Bristol three times this year and find it simple to get to from Cardiff and easy to park.
Obviously, depends where the individual wants to fly to as regards which airport he can use. I would prefer to use Cardiff airport if they flew to where I go and matched the Ryanair/Easyjet prices but that is not the case so Bristol is fine.[/quote


Shame we only have couple of mickey mouse budget ailines instead of ryanair/easyjet then we wouldn't be having this conversation? :old:

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:40 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.


This is nonsense regarding Bristol being at its capacity.
I was there a couple of weeks ago and work is already in progress. As far I know there is a huge amount planned including expansion of terminals, arrivals, car parking, etc.
I was also told an onsite hotel is to be built.



Can expand passenger numbers in terminals but no mention of expanding runway? ( believe they can't ) at some point they will run out of runway capacity then what?

runway is not so important any more. The modern aircraft are designed to fly further using less fuel. Bristol are hoping to have direct flights to Florida and parts of the Caribbean in 2017.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:49 pm

the problem is it may be slighty cheaper flights but people are forgetting ,car parking charges ,petrol seven bridge tolls and convenience especially as I live in 3 miles down the road from cardiff airport

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:01 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Bristol airport is just about to under take a massive expansion to the whole airport which will make it one of the largest in the UK, which will be brilliant for traveller from South Wales and the South West :bluebird:

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Bristol were at capacity and could not expand any more. I thought that they already had planning permission for a mega expansion that included hotel, terminal improvements etc. that would increase it's capacity to between 10 and 12 million passengers per year. I would imagine that would almost signal the end of cardiff other than for small aircraft and maybe a few short haul flights. Certainly be better for S Wales than Gatwick.


This is nonsense regarding Bristol being at its capacity.
I was there a couple of weeks ago and work is already in progress. As far I know there is a huge amount planned including expansion of terminals, arrivals, car parking, etc.
I was also told an onsite hotel is to be built.



Can expand passenger numbers in terminals but no mention of expanding runway? ( believe they can't ) at some point they will run out of runway capacity then what?

runway is not so important any more. The modern aircraft are designed to fly further using less fuel. Bristol are hoping to have direct flights to Florida and parts of the Caribbean in 2017.



That's not so good but hoping and being able to is another matter,, time will tell if Cardiff can survive personally think it will given right backing and airlines at airport

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:02 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Years ago when the place was a small local airport it flew mostly 2 and 4 seater planes privately owned or owned by the local flying club, with the odd Cambrian Airways passenger planesusing it as well. It appears to be going back to those days, and I can't see how it can survive as a regional airport for much longer.
It would be my preferred airport to fly from, but unfortunately they either don't fly to the destination I regularly travel to, and on the odd occasion I am going somewhere different, it is nearly always cheaper to go from Bristol. Use to fly from Cardiff regularly years back, but can't remember the last time I used it now.

cardiff is having a record year this year and growing with more routes planned for next year bristol is nearly full to capacity so things will get better for Cardiff in the next few years

And how many times over how many years have I heard that. Yet still more and more people are flying from Bristol, and still they don't fly to the destination that I and thousands of other Brits fly to each year.




I'm one of the lucky ones never had to use Bristol used roose twice already this year ! And if went to USA use air lingus easier than going to London , only been once to bristol (dropping off) and check in area is as small as Roose , Bristol will get full and cannot expand so in future there's room for Roose to expand routes bmi already back and more people using it this year and last, it's not all gloom and doom as being portrade by some :old:


Bristol actually has plans for massive expansion. Bristol currently gets 4 million customers a year. When their expansion plans are completed, they will be looking to get 10 million customers a year. Bristol will blow Cardiff out of the water and I fear for the future of Cardiff airport.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:06 pm

wez1927 wrote:the problem is it may be slighty cheaper flights but people are forgetting ,car parking charges ,petrol seven bridge tolls and convenience especially as I live in 3 miles down the road from cardiff airport


Wez, unfortunately adding the additional fuel costs, toll and car parking fee to fly from Bristol still doesn't come close to the drastically overpriced Cardiff prices.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:14 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:the problem is it may be slighty cheaper flights but people are forgetting ,car parking charges ,petrol seven bridge tolls and convenience especially as I live in 3 miles down the road from cardiff airport


Wez, unfortunately adding the additional fuel costs, toll and car parking fee to fly from Bristol still doesn't come close to the drastically overpriced Cardiff prices.

it does for me as a single traveler your talking 60-70 pound a ticket extra to go to bristol I'm flying from cardiff to tenerife for 80 in January the flights from Cardiff are mainly package holidays at the moment the low budget airl8nes haven't got many routes only Ryanair and veiling are tuning regularly

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:18 pm

Bristol recently annoucned long haul flights to a number of destinations, coupled with the major hotel being built it's leaving Cardiff behind more than it already has.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:19 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:the problem is it may be slighty cheaper flights but people are forgetting ,car parking charges ,petrol seven bridge tolls and convenience especially as I live in 3 miles down the road from cardiff airport


Wez, unfortunately adding the additional fuel costs, toll and car parking fee to fly from Bristol still doesn't come close to the drastically overpriced Cardiff prices.


I travel abroad 3 times a year from Cardiffand as a lorry driver the last thing I want to do is having to drive a hour to bristol airport

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:46 pm

BEAKERBLUE wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:the problem is it may be slighty cheaper flights but people are forgetting ,car parking charges ,petrol seven bridge tolls and convenience especially as I live in 3 miles down the road from cardiff airport


Wez, unfortunately adding the additional fuel costs, toll and car parking fee to fly from Bristol still doesn't come close to the drastically overpriced Cardiff prices.


I travel abroad 3 times a year from Cardiffand as a lorry driver the last thing I want to do is having to drive a hour to bristol airport

I suppose a lot depends on where you live. If you travel for example from the city centre, it takes around half an hourto get to Rhoose, and and just over an hour to Bristol. For me living near Pontypridd, it takes me around an extra half hour to Bristol rather than Rhoose. Being part of a family of four on a recent trip, our total savings on flights were approx £350. I would have happily paid an extra £100 to £150 for the convenience of Cardiff, but £350 was pushing it a bit, even taking into account travel to and from Bristol.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:54 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Years ago when the place was a small local airport it flew mostly 2 and 4 seater planes privately owned or owned by the local flying club, with the odd Cambrian Airways passenger planesusing it as well. It appears to be going back to those days, and I can't see how it can survive as a regional airport for much longer.
It would be my preferred airport to fly from, but unfortunately they either don't fly to the destination I regularly travel to, and on the odd occasion I am going somewhere different, it is nearly always cheaper to go from Bristol. Use to fly from Cardiff regularly years back, but can't remember the last time I used it now.

cardiff is having a record year this year and growing with more routes planned for next year bristol is nearly full to capacity so things will get better for Cardiff in the next few years

And how many times over how many years have I heard that. Yet still more and more people are flying from Bristol, and still they don't fly to the destination that I and thousands of other Brits fly to each year.




I'm one of the lucky ones never had to use Bristol used roose twice already this year ! And if went to USA use air lingus easier than going to London , only been once to bristol (dropping off) and check in area is as small as Roose , Bristol will get full and cannot expand so in future there's room for Roose to expand routes bmi already back and more people using it this year and last, it's not all gloom and doom as being portrade by some :old:


Bristol actually has plans for massive expansion. Bristol currently gets 4 million customers a year. When their expansion plans are completed, they will be looking to get 10 million customers a year. Bristol will blow Cardiff out of the water and I fear for the future of Cardiff airport.



Can expand to hearts content but at some point runway capacity will get in way and unless they demolish couple of villages there's nothing they can do to change that fact What then? Haven't had need to use Bristol and can't see myself ever using it Cardiff provides me with what I require twice a year!
At a reasonable price ! :thumbup:

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:31 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Years ago when the place was a small local airport it flew mostly 2 and 4 seater planes privately owned or owned by the local flying club, with the odd Cambrian Airways passenger planesusing it as well. It appears to be going back to those days, and I can't see how it can survive as a regional airport for much longer.
It would be my preferred airport to fly from, but unfortunately they either don't fly to the destination I regularly travel to, and on the odd occasion I am going somewhere different, it is nearly always cheaper to go from Bristol. Use to fly from Cardiff regularly years back, but can't remember the last time I used it now.

cardiff is having a record year this year and growing with more routes planned for next year bristol is nearly full to capacity so things will get better for Cardiff in the next few years

And how many times over how many years have I heard that. Yet still more and more people are flying from Bristol, and still they don't fly to the destination that I and thousands of other Brits fly to each year.




I'm one of the lucky ones never had to use Bristol used roose twice already this year ! And if went to USA use air lingus easier than going to London , only been once to bristol (dropping off) and check in area is as small as Roose , Bristol will get full and cannot expand so in future there's room for Roose to expand routes bmi already back and more people using it this year and last, it's not all gloom and doom as being portrade by some :old:


Bristol actually has plans for massive expansion. Bristol currently gets 4 million customers a year. When their expansion plans are completed, they will be looking to get 10 million customers a year. Bristol will blow Cardiff out of the water and I fear for the future of Cardiff airport.



Can expand to hearts content but at some point runway capacity will get in way and unless they demolish couple of villages there's nothing they can do to change that fact What then? Haven't had need to use Bristol and can't see myself ever using it Cardiff provides me with what I require twice a year!
At a reasonable price ! :thumbup:


As others have said, Bristol have already started their expansion plans, I recently flew from Bristol and they're planning on expanding from dealing with 4 million customers a year to 10 million customers a year. Whether Bristol gets 10 million customers a year in the future remains to be seen, but Bristol will continually outgrow Cardiff. If Cardiff don't get competitive soon, Bristol will simply leave Cardiff behind.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:00 pm

To suggest Cardiff will ever be able to compete with Bristol again is unrealistic. There is simply not enough of a demand to service two large airports so close to eachother. Cardiff need to concentrate on getting together some good domestic routes and then a few busy ones to resorts in Europe and make them as cheap as possible. No point chasing long haul flights, they can't make it viable.

"Bristol can expand all it wants but what happens when it can't?" You can say this about anything.Another own goal by cluedos.

Re: Bristol Airport

Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:34 pm

wez1927 wrote:
ninianblue wrote:heres your homework for the weekend, try to get a price for an 8 day holiday to majorca , from cardiff airport in september, then try bristol :roll:
8 day ? not 7

wez this was one of my points, cardiff do 7, 14, 21, days, a thompsons plane for example goes to spain on a wednesday, and it comes back a week later on the wednesday, or 14 days,,, you ask for a 8 day, 9, day, 10, day 13 days, cant be done, bristol do uneven days, because, they got more flights :roll: