Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:04 pm
AHERNE wrote:Hahaha god i dont know Wez .... Corbyn is a man of peace looking for solutions. What do you really want to be supporting governments that support Israeli terror over the last 70 years or our own governments terror in the middle east over the last 13 years? because like it or not there is no bigger terrorist organizations than the israeli, american and british governments. I`ll get called a traitor for that i expect but i honestly couldnt give a toss .... anyway you`ve obviously been brainwashed into believing we are the good guys so i`ll wish you goodnightand leave you with this, just another example that Corbyn is just looking for solutions to end all this crap our children have now got to deal with. NIGHT! http://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-jewish- ... criticism/
Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:47 pm
AHERNE wrote:Hahaha god i dont know Wez .... Corbyn is a man of peace looking for solutions. What do you really want to be supporting governments that support Israeli terror over the last 70 years or our own governments terror in the middle east over the last 13 years? because like it or not there is no bigger terrorist organizations than the israeli, american and british governments. I`ll get called a traitor for that i expect but i honestly couldnt give a toss .... anyway you`ve obviously been brainwashed into believing we are the good guys so i`ll wish you goodnightand leave you with this, just another example that Corbyn is just looking for solutions to end all this crap our children have now got to deal with. NIGHT! http://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-jewish- ... criticism/
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Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:37 am
Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:45 am
AfanBluebird wrote:Morning Wez, can I just reason a question I asked last night?
Would UKIP renationalise everything so that these "people councils" that they plan to implement, would have something to do? Otherwise, wouldn't it be pretty silly for a group of people to sat around the table drinking tea and eating biscuits, having nothing to do because the stuff they are meant to be debating, is run privately?
Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:52 am
AHERNE wrote:FORGET WHAT MURDOCH AND THE BLARITES TELL YOU ... CORBYN IS THE MAN OF THE PEOPLE AND HE`S IN MERTHYR TOMORROW .... THE REVOLUTION AS STARTED1.30 pm in the square. https://www.facebook.com/events/292092531141874/
Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:06 am
Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:07 am
wez1927 wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Morning Wez, can I just reason a question I asked last night?
Would UKIP renationalise everything so that these "people councils" that they plan to implement, would have something to do? Otherwise, wouldn't it be pretty silly for a group of people to sat around the table drinking tea and eating biscuits, having nothing to do because the stuff they are meant to be debating, is run privately?
is everything renationalised now ? why would that need to be done less power to Westminster and more locally
Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:21 am
AfanBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Morning Wez, can I just reason a question I asked last night?
Would UKIP renationalise everything so that these "people councils" that they plan to implement, would have something to do? Otherwise, wouldn't it be pretty silly for a group of people to sat around the table drinking tea and eating biscuits, having nothing to do because the stuff they are meant to be debating, is run privately?
is everything renationalised now ? why would that need to be done less power to Westminster and more locally
I'm just asking a basic question that has failed to be answered by yourself. The reason I ask, would UKIP renationalise services that have been sold off is because, you state about these "people councils", that in my mind would be irrelevant as they will not be able to control anything or have a say about anything anyway, as they will not be under public control. So renationalising services, they will then be under public control.
Seeing as UKIP is the fall back party for a lot of failed Tory politicians, I can't see how these "people councils" would work? I stated yesterday, that councils would become more irrelevant by 2020, due to privatisation. So I ask you again, would UKIP nationalise services that have been sold off?
Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:26 am
wez1927 wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Morning Wez, can I just reason a question I asked last night?
Would UKIP renationalise everything so that these "people councils" that they plan to implement, would have something to do? Otherwise, wouldn't it be pretty silly for a group of people to sat around the table drinking tea and eating biscuits, having nothing to do because the stuff they are meant to be debating, is run privately?
is everything renationalised now ? why would that need to be done less power to Westminster and more locally
I'm just asking a basic question that has failed to be answered by yourself. The reason I ask, would UKIP renationalise services that have been sold off is because, you state about these "people councils", that in my mind would be irrelevant as they will not be able to control anything or have a say about anything anyway, as they will not be under public control. So renationalising services, they will then be under public control.
Seeing as UKIP is the fall back party for a lot of failed Tory politicians, I can't see how these "people councils" would work? I stated yesterday, that councils would become more irrelevant by 2020, due to privatisation. So I ask you again, would UKIP nationalise services that have been sold off?
I've answered you but it's not getting through to you less power to Westminster and more power locally ,what can't you understand about that renationalising has got bog all to do with it
Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:28 am
wez1927 wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Morning Wez, can I just reason a question I asked last night?
Would UKIP renationalise everything so that these "people councils" that they plan to implement, would have something to do? Otherwise, wouldn't it be pretty silly for a group of people to sat around the table drinking tea and eating biscuits, having nothing to do because the stuff they are meant to be debating, is run privately?
is everything renationalised now ? why would that need to be done less power to Westminster and more locally
I'm just asking a basic question that has failed to be answered by yourself. The reason I ask, would UKIP renationalise services that have been sold off is because, you state about these "people councils", that in my mind would be irrelevant as they will not be able to control anything or have a say about anything anyway, as they will not be under public control. So renationalising services, they will then be under public control.
Seeing as UKIP is the fall back party for a lot of failed Tory politicians, I can't see how these "people councils" would work? I stated yesterday, that councils would become more irrelevant by 2020, due to privatisation. So I ask you again, would UKIP nationalise services that have been sold off?
I've answered you but it's not getting through to you less power to Westminster and more power locally ,what can't you understand about that renationalising has got bog all to do with it
Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:13 am
Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:18 pm
spike ferndale wrote:What do you mean Wez?
More power to the Welsh Assembly or more power to County councils or both?
Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:10 pm
Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:51 pm
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:20 pm
spike ferndale wrote:Wez,
What are you are saying ?
Make all politicians redundant and have un-elected regional people's councils rule by referendums?
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:27 pm
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:35 pm
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:40 pm
spike ferndale wrote:Wez,
With all due respect, you are not making a lot of sense here.
I follow you as far as having less MP's (fair enough)
Where are you going to next, are you talking about AM's,
New regional assemblies (elected or otherwise)
Referendums for what?
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:41 pm
wez1927 wrote:spike ferndale wrote:Wez,
With all due respect, you are not making a lot of sense here.
I follow you as far as having less MP's (fair enough)
Where are you going to next, are you talking about AM's,
New regional assemblies (elected or otherwise)
Referendums for what?
new regional assembly across the whole UK
also say for instance the new m4 bypass in Newport the local people word vote if they wanted to spend tax payers money on it by having a vote any big project which uses this type of monies should be put to the people but local day south Wales? I'm not saying ukip are wanting to do that but they want more local government which I agree with
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:48 pm
spike ferndale wrote:Wez,
With all due respect, you are not making a lot of sense here.
I follow you as far as having less MP's (fair enough)
Where are you going to next, are you talking about AM's,
New regional assemblies (elected or otherwise)
Referendums for what?
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:52 pm
wez1927 wrote:spike ferndale wrote:Wez,
With all due respect, you are not making a lot of sense here.
I follow you as far as having less MP's (fair enough)
Where are you going to next, are you talking about AM's,
New regional assemblies (elected or otherwise)
Referendums for what?
new regional assembly across the whole UK
also say for instance the new m4 bypass in Newport the local people word vote if they wanted to spend tax payers money on it by having a vote any big project which uses this type of monies should be put to the people but local day south Wales? I'm not saying ukip are wanting to do that but they want more local government which I agree with
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:55 pm
it does at the moment but It would take a whole change of the way we run government at every levelAfanBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:spike ferndale wrote:Wez,
With all due respect, you are not making a lot of sense here.
I follow you as far as having less MP's (fair enough)
Where are you going to next, are you talking about AM's,
New regional assemblies (elected or otherwise)
Referendums for what?
new regional assembly across the whole UK
also say for instance the new m4 bypass in Newport the local people word vote if they wanted to spend tax payers money on it by having a vote any big project which uses this type of monies should be put to the people but local day south Wales? I'm not saying ukip are wanting to do that but they want more local government which I agree with
The M4 Newport tunnel doesn't come under Local funding though? As its a national project that links London to West Wales. So even though it's in the Newport area, it comes under the Department of Transport at the Welsh Assembly & Whitehall. A project in Newport (Brynglas Tunnel and Newport Bypass) could effect the future growth of Cardiff, Llanelli or Swansea, and that's why it comes under National spending.
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:59 pm
Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:08 pm
wez1927 wrote:it does at the moment but It would take a whole change of the way we run government at every levelAfanBluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:spike ferndale wrote:Wez,
With all due respect, you are not making a lot of sense here.
I follow you as far as having less MP's (fair enough)
Where are you going to next, are you talking about AM's,
New regional assemblies (elected or otherwise)
Referendums for what?
new regional assembly across the whole UK
also say for instance the new m4 bypass in Newport the local people word vote if they wanted to spend tax payers money on it by having a vote any big project which uses this type of monies should be put to the people but local day south Wales? I'm not saying ukip are wanting to do that but they want more local government which I agree with
The M4 Newport tunnel doesn't come under Local funding though? As its a national project that links London to West Wales. So even though it's in the Newport area, it comes under the Department of Transport at the Welsh Assembly & Whitehall. A project in Newport (Brynglas Tunnel and Newport Bypass) could effect the future growth of Cardiff, Llanelli or Swansea, and that's why it comes under National spending.
Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:15 pm
wez1927 wrote:we the people should of had votes on key issues like all the treaties in the past about Europe that took our sovereignty away ,replacing trident ,going to war it shouldn't be left just to mps the people should decide just like the eu referendum,the mps tend to forget it's our will they should be serving the majority not the minority
Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:15 pm