Broken promises already

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


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re the NHS, the statement was made by the leave campaign, which farage was not a part of. he never made such a claim.

about the poster in question, it states: 'we send the eu £350m a week - lets fund our NHS instead'. it does not state all the money will go on the NHS. this is a classic case of 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'. if they bothered to do their research they would know this.

we will save significant sums on the NHS on not having an open door for hundreds of thousands of EU workers who don't earn enough to cover what they get back in the form of NHS, schooling and the like.

The trouble with that argument is that we won't have enough, indigenous people, qualified to staff the NHS at current levels let alone put more in. We can't attract enough to get qualified and we are massively dependant on EU and non-EU immigration to plug the gaps.

And please don't say that it will open opportunities for "British" people to get those jobs !! We can't attract them now and there are vacancies on nursing degree courses so why would coming out of the EU change that ? You could argue that we could use the £350m to pay them more and make it more attractive but that money won't go far given the numbers involved and leave nothing for all the other gaps in the money from the EU.

there will still be immigration from europe after we leave the EU. only a fool would think otherwise. i would suggest the vast majority of out voters, recognise the huge benefits of skilled immigration. for many people, this was a vote to stop open door immigration.

skilled workers will still be welcome and with the continuing economic stagnation of most EU states, they will be queuing up to join.

why is the NHS overstretched? there are a number of reasons. one is the ageing population, there is not much we can do about that. another, whether or not you choose to ignore it, is hundreds of thousands of low skilled EU migrants who enjoy full access to such services but don't earn enough to contribute to its running. we simply cannot afford to keep going on like this. over 17m british citizens agree with that sentiment.

Be interesting to see if we implement a points system for immigration similar to Australia. I would award bonus points to anyone coming over to open a Tandoori or a Cantonese, and deduct points for an Italian, don't like pasta.

Don't get this farage bashing at all

Yes the guy is a stupendous prick

But

He never ever said the whole £350m we save a week would be invested in the NHS, he doesn't have that authority as he is not even an MP and has no say in Westminster whatsoever let alone influencing a post EU chancellors budget

The person that mentioned this most was Boris Johnson in his bus which had the words 'COULD' correct me if I'm wrong but when has could in the history of the English language ever meant 'WILL' or 'DEFINITELY'

so if you are now claiming this nonsense you are factually incorrect

If you voted for leave purely on those statements then you probably shouldn't have voted at all, I am a staunch leave supporter and yes the thought of not paying the EU £6.5bn a year is part of my decision but I was never naive enough to believe the whole amount would ever go into the NHS, what about Welsh funding shortfalls for a starters?

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

I agree !

I wasn't surprised that England voted out, I might well have done too if I lived in England because I believe that the English economy will be OK.

However I was amazed that places like Blaenau Gwent/RCT/North Wales think that Out will be better for Wales. Even the Brexit campaign accepted that Wales gets more out of the EU than it contributes so leaving the EU basically ensures that we will be tied to England and at their behest for subsidies for the forseeable future. Is everyone confident that a Westminster Tory government will be happy to subsidise to the same level as the EU ?

Interesting that the city with the biggest numbers of "immigrants" (still less than 8%), Cardiff, voted overwhelmingly to Remain. Maybe because now they've met those "pesky foreigners" they realised they ain't so bad They probably also remember what Cardiff was like before the inward investment, a lot of it from the EU, that paved the way for the Bay redevelopment.

Scotland will almost certainly vote for independance at the next possible opportunity but for Wales I think we're too far from being self sustaining for us to even consider that for another 5-6 years so it's going to be a painful time for us !!

I voted to remain, so my conscience is clear. Welsh people who voted to leave are cowards.

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

I agree !

I wasn't surprised that England voted out, I might well have done too if I lived in England because I believe that the English economy will be OK.

However I was amazed that places like Blaenau Gwent/RCT/North Wales think that Out will be better for Wales. Even the Brexit campaign accepted that Wales gets more out of the EU than it contributes so leaving the EU basically ensures that we will be tied to England and at their behest for subsidies for the forseeable future. Is everyone confident that a Westminster Tory government will be happy to subsidise to the same level as the EU ?

Interesting that the city with the biggest numbers of "immigrants" (still less than 8%), Cardiff, voted overwhelmingly to Remain. Maybe because now they've met those "pesky foreigners" they realised they ain't so bad They probably also remember what Cardiff was like before the inward investment, a lot of it from the EU, that paved the way for the Bay redevelopment.

Scotland will almost certainly vote for independance at the next possible opportunity but for Wales I think we're too far from being self sustaining for us to even consider that for another 5-6 years so it's going to be a painful time for us !!

I voted to remain, so my conscience is clear. Welsh people who voted to leave are cowards.[/quote

And how do you work that out?

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

You do realise with the 355 million given to the EU, it worked out as an average of for every £1 the EU "invested" in us, we had already given them £2.20? The spare £1.20 leftover no doubt contributes to over 10,000 EU members being on a higher wage than our British Prime Minister and we don't even know who these people are, none of us voted these people in.

I believe our economy will be much better off in the future, being able to freely trade with America, China, India and the rest of the biggest trading countries out there that the EU is not currently apart of. We are finally free from the restricted EU and can now freely trade across the world. This will create more income and more opportunities.

Since we have entered the EU, every economy has doubled in size, apart from the EU and Antartica. We were getting left behind trapped in the EU and we now have the freedom and democratic right to govern our own country to prosperity! I optimistically look at today as an exciting new chapter for our futures!

totally agree

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

I agree !

I wasn't surprised that England voted out, I might well have done too if I lived in England because I believe that the English economy will be OK.

However I was amazed that places like Blaenau Gwent/RCT/North Wales think that Out will be better for Wales. Even the Brexit campaign accepted that Wales gets more out of the EU than it contributes so leaving the EU basically ensures that we will be tied to England and at their behest for subsidies for the forseeable future. Is everyone confident that a Westminster Tory government will be happy to subsidise to the same level as the EU ?

Interesting that the city with the biggest numbers of "immigrants" (still less than 8%), Cardiff, voted overwhelmingly to Remain. Maybe because now they've met those "pesky foreigners" they realised they ain't so bad They probably also remember what Cardiff was like before the inward investment, a lot of it from the EU, that paved the way for the Bay redevelopment.

Scotland will almost certainly vote for independance at the next possible opportunity but for Wales I think we're too far from being self sustaining for us to even consider that for another 5-6 years so it's going to be a painful time for us !!

I voted to remain, so my conscience is clear. Welsh people who voted to leave are cowards.

what a plank you are no wonder your lot lost

terrific - now the leave camp has stated that they have never promised a radical immigration decline...

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

They also said the £ and financial markets wouldn't crash ........................ anyone seen the exchange rates and/or FT Index overnight

I've got some shares and they went up 70p each to £15 a share today. The biggest rise since i've owned them.

There has been no financial crash (ftse down about 3%). A knee jerk reaction which will level out in no time at all.

A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months. President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong. The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place. The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU. A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas. The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt. Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately. If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.
Dont look too bad from where im sitting.

They also said the £ and financial markets wouldn't crash ........................ anyone seen the exchange rates and/or FT Index overnight

I've got some shares and they went up 70p each to £15 a share today. The biggest rise since i've owned them.

There has been no financial crash (ftse down about 3%). A knee jerk reaction which will level out in no time at all.

What shares are they?

A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months. President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong. The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place. The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU. A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas. The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt. Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately. If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.
Dont look too bad from where im sitting.

Wez, some pretty entrenched views prior to the vote are now changing and even our outgoing Prime Minister (wrong to 'leg it' so quickly IMHO) re-stated his previous comments that the UK will do well if things are negotiated in the right way!

As they say, 24 hours is a long time in politics!

Quick question for those with all the answers though:

Given that the vote was a 'whole of UK' ballot that had the simplest of conclusions (i.e. the side with the most votes won the day) how can Ms Sturgeon and her Scottish followers suddenly be declaring they will look for another referendum to detach themselves from the rest of the UK?

Surely, that's a pretty undemocratic reaction to a nationwide ballot where most other politicians and regions in England, Wales and Northern Ireland appear to have accepted the situation with a certain grace?

A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £ rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best performance in 4 months. President Obama decided we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and that our 'special relationship' was still strong. The French President confirmed the Le Touquet agreement would stay in place. The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be a 'close partner' of the EU. A big bank denied reports it would shift 2,000 staff overseas. The CBI, vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum campaign, stated British business was resilient and would adapt. Several countries outside the EU stated they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK immediately. If this was the predicted apocalypse, well, it was a very British one. It was all over by teatime. Not a bad first day of freedom.
Dont look too bad from where im sitting.

You've copied and pasted that, haven't you?

One overarching phenomenon has emerged from this debacle. The refusal of 'ordinary' people to accept 'expert' advice. Never before has the situation arisen so manifestly where any Tom, Dick or Harry vehemently refuses to change their opinions for anyone. It seems this referendum, and the selective use of the internet has reinforced everyone's agenda.

Welsh people who voted to leave are cowards.

Wow. That's a big call.

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

The line ' I am not racist, but'....says it all.

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Just remind the dear girl that "some " had everything

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Thing is we have to deal with the scared (old) and the stupid, summed up nicely by a bloke they interviewed in Caerphilly on TV yesterday. He was asked how he voted, he said I voted out what have the EU ever done for us?? The journal told him they the regeneration of his town centre was funded by EU grants mainly, he didn't know, he was clueless, like so many.......

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Just remind the dear girl that "some " had everything

and "some" will continue to have everything. I have a small business that totally relies on being able to trade freely within the EU that I have worked hard for 20 years to establish. Now - I face having to negotiate 27 different sets of regulations, costing god knows what. Money I could have spent on my children's and grand children's future. Thanks so much leave - I hope you still think it was worth when it all unravels.

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Thing is we have to deal with the scared (old) and the stupid, summed up nicely by a bloke they interviewed in Caerphilly on TV yesterday. He was asked how he voted, he said I voted out what have the EU ever done for us?? The journal told him they the regeneration of his town centre was funded by EU grants mainly, he didn't know, he was clueless, like so many.......

Good post and that is where the problem truly lies (I wrote it elsewhere) in that UK voters should NOT have been given this opportunity at this time with the immense lack of genuine information provided by BOTH sides

I am not saying the population got the actual vote right or wrong. Only time will tell on that one, but a fair number of British people ON BOTH SIDES have now proven themselves to be truly ignorant and truly bigoted beyond reason

Accept the decision and move on, people. All you can do is move forward or move backwards. You won't wake up in the shower on Monday morning and find yourself in Southfork where it was all a dream

The vote was real, the result was clear and now it is YOUR choice for YOU to decide if your glass is half full or half empty

Bigotry, racism and self-interest are rife in this country at the moment. It was started by Margaret Thatcher and has slowly increased through the years

It is now time to take stock, realise that only the people of the UK (including its welcome legal immigrants) can shape our future and that we can be part of it by working and pulling together to make sure it works as we know it can

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Thing is we have to deal with the scared (old) and the stupid, summed up nicely by a bloke they interviewed in Caerphilly on TV yesterday. He was asked how he voted, he said I voted out what have the EU ever done for us?? The journal told him they the regeneration of his town centre was funded by EU grants mainly, he didn't know, he was clueless, like so many.......

There was a similar interview on TV yesterday with an unkempt woman in Barnsley. When asked which way she voted, she enthusiastically slurred OUT, having obviously celebrated with a passion on the street overnight, her can of lager still in hand. Her bedraggled state suggested she'd had a long night. When asked by the interviewer why she had voted to leave the EU when Barnsley had received huge amounts of regeneration money to fund new business projects, she replied " I don't know nothing 'bout that, I don't know politics" and uncovering a tee shirt under her coat emblazoned with a Union Jack, she proudly cried out " I just want my country back" She could easily have been in France cheering on her football team.

There is a far more important narrative in all this and touches upon the real reason so many desperate people voted for a chimera. What exactly has anything achieved to improve this woman's life? And who cares? That is entirely for a right-wing capitalist agenda to answer and nothing to do with the EU.

And you were all dull enough to vote for it. The uneducated vote won this for the leave campaign. You all just tanked the country.

I find a lot of the "Remain" quite bitter today , seen a petition already online from the Remain Camp for another referendum just because they didn't get the vote they wanted , don't think some people know how Democracy works .

I'd urge everyone to sign it too.

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Thing is we have to deal with the scared (old) and the stupid, summed up nicely by a bloke they interviewed in Caerphilly on TV yesterday. He was asked how he voted, he said I voted out what have the EU ever done for us?? The journal told him they the regeneration of his town centre was funded by EU grants mainly, he didn't know, he was clueless, like so many.......

Good post and that is where the problem truly lies (I wrote it elsewhere) in that UK voters should NOT have been given this opportunity at this time with the immense lack of genuine information provided by BOTH sides

I am not saying the population got the actual vote right or wrong. Only time will tell on that one, but a fair number of British people ON BOTH SIDES have now proven themselves to be truly ignorant and truly bigoted beyond reason

Accept the decision and move on, people. All you can do is move forward or move backwards. You won't wake up in the shower on Monday morning and find yourself in Southfork where it was all a dream

The vote was real, the result was clear and now it is YOUR choice for YOU to decide if your glass is half full or half empty

Bigotry, racism and self-interest are rife in this country at the moment. It was started by Margaret Thatcher and has slowly increased through the years

It is now time to take stock, realise that only the people of the UK (including its welcome legal immigrants) can shape our future and that we can be part of it by working and pulling together to make sure it works as we know it can

The problem for some is how to move on mate. I have a business that depends on the de-regulation in Europe to be able to trade, I have a partner who it going to get much more difficult to have a relationship with and my children are denied the rights that their counter parts have in the jobs market. Its devastating and some people saw it as a chance to posture and flag wave like it was a football match. You are of course right about the need for a referendum at all at this point; Cameron had to try and appease those of his party who were going to defect to UKIP, gambled an lost in a mistake that will go down in history as one of the greatest ever in its magnitude.

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Thing is we have to deal with the scared (old) and the stupid, summed up nicely by a bloke they interviewed in Caerphilly on TV yesterday. He was asked how he voted, he said I voted out what have the EU ever done for us?? The journal told him they the regeneration of his town centre was funded by EU grants mainly, he didn't know, he was clueless, like so many.......

Yes EU grants given in mostly from money UK gave! Regeneration is all well and good but if got no money to spend in posh town centre what good is it,? And thats part problem people see these projects but doesn't help them.

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Thing is we have to deal with the scared (old) and the stupid, summed up nicely by a bloke they interviewed in Caerphilly on TV yesterday. He was asked how he voted, he said I voted out what have the EU ever done for us?? The journal told him they the regeneration of his town centre was funded by EU grants mainly, he didn't know, he was clueless, like so many.......

Yes EU grants given in mostly from money UK gave! Regeneration is all well and good but if got no money to spend in posh town centre what good is it,? And thats part problem people see these projects but doesn't help them.

Your point is entirely true but it's the rich elite to blame, not the EU. If our country had chosen to make positive changes to EU policies the EU itself would have ensured the cash wouldn't have ended up in the pockets of rich toffs.

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Just remind the dear girl that "some " had everything

and "some" will continue to have everything. I have a small business that totally relies on being able to trade freely within the EU that I have worked hard for 20 years to establish. Now - I face having to negotiate 27 different sets of regulations, costing god knows what. Money I could have spent on my children's and grand children's future. Thanks so much leave - I hope you still think it was worth when it all unravels.

Why do you rely totally on the EU , if what you produce is good enough for an Albanian peasant why not a Canadian and by the way you have two years not two minutes to establish your self outside the EU

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Just remind the dear girl that "some " had everything

and "some" will continue to have everything. I have a small business that totally relies on being able to trade freely within the EU that I have worked hard for 20 years to establish. Now - I face having to negotiate 27 different sets of regulations, costing god knows what. Money I could have spent on my children's and grand children's future. Thanks so much leave - I hope you still think it was worth when it all unravels.

Why do you rely totally on the EU , if what you produce is good enough for an Albanian peasant why not a Canadian and by the way you have two years not two minutes to establish your self outside the EU

because I am a tour operator that offers holidays in Europe...

All this we are now free to trade with India, China, the USA, like what the f**k do we trade? We dint make anything anymore do we? It's all gone hasn't it?? This country is shafted.

they shafted us good and proper yesterday mate - it really has all gone. I just spoke to my partner for the first time since the vote who is still in Poland and she said - what is wrong with the people in the UK; you had everything...

Thing is we have to deal with the scared (old) and the stupid, summed up nicely by a bloke they interviewed in Caerphilly on TV yesterday. He was asked how he voted, he said I voted out what have the EU ever done for us?? The journal told him they the regeneration of his town centre was funded by EU grants mainly, he didn't know, he was clueless, like so many.......

Good post and that is where the problem truly lies (I wrote it elsewhere) in that UK voters should NOT have been given this opportunity at this time with the immense lack of genuine information provided by BOTH sides

I am not saying the population got the actual vote right or wrong. Only time will tell on that one, but a fair number of British people ON BOTH SIDES have now proven themselves to be truly ignorant and truly bigoted beyond reason

Accept the decision and move on, people. All you can do is move forward or move backwards. You won't wake up in the shower on Monday morning and find yourself in Southfork where it was all a dream

The vote was real, the result was clear and now it is YOUR choice for YOU to decide if your glass is half full or half empty

Bigotry, racism and self-interest are rife in this country at the moment. It was started by Margaret Thatcher and has slowly increased through the years

It is now time to take stock, realise that only the people of the UK (including its welcome legal immigrants) can shape our future and that we can be part of it by working and pulling together to make sure it works as we know it can

The problem for some is how to move on mate. I have a business that depends on the de-regulation in Europe to be able to trade, I have a partner who it going to get much more difficult to have a relationship with and my children are denied the rights that their counter parts have in the jobs market. Its devastating and some people saw it as a chance to posture and flag wave like it was a football match. You are of course right about the need for a referendum at all at this point; Cameron had to try and appease those of his party who were going to defect to UKIP, gambled an lost in a mistake that will go down in history as one of the greatest ever in its magnitude.

Your business and your relationship is vitally important to you and I hope that nothing changes too much

I see your points, but the problem is that we won't know the true impact (beneficial or otherwise) for some time to come and the early impression is that the UK Government (whether it be Conservative or Labour in the months to come) have no real appetite to move too far from the EU doctrine

Remember, the UK political parties (in the main) didn't want Brexit and for so many reasons it is not in their interests to set themselves adrift in a rapidly deflating dinghy. What is important though is that as a nation we are able to set our own rules rather than have them imposed on us. It could actually be a good move in the medium to long-term

Neither is it in the EU's interests, despite the current "Get out!" rhetoric and I was very interested in the wording used by Angela Merckl earlier today, which were pretty conciliatory given what has happened

I was also impressed with Jeremy carbon's speech this lunchtime and (I can't believe I am saying this) he may well be just the man to softly pull all this together in a calm and considered manner

Watching this whole avoidable debacle with interest

They also said the £ and financial markets wouldn't crash ........................ anyone seen the exchange rates and/or FT Index overnight

I've got some shares and they went up 70p each to £15 a share today. The biggest rise since i've owned them.

There has been no financial crash (ftse down about 3%). A knee jerk reaction which will level out in no time at all.

What shares are they?

GlaxoSmithKlein