Why don't they settle in France?

I am happy to take in refugees from Syria itself, I think we should take in way more than 20k, i'd like us to take in a lot of orphans because they are our future. However anyone in Europe right now whether it be on the latest migrant boat landing in Greece or those twats in Calais should never be allowed to set foot in this country. These people have shown no respect for our laws or rules, they refuse to sign in anywhere and are now rioting at border posts with police.

You want a better life? Work hard, study hard get a good education or skill and keep out of trouble. Once you've done that apply to come and live here and you will be welcome with open arms. I love the Indians in this country because they all get it, they feel Indian and British and are very proud to live here. They abide by our values as well as celebrate their own in an inclusive way. Compare that to other communities and it's a joke.

Cardiff needs more Indians and less muslims.

Most people who post on here have very little "factual" info but do have information put out by the tabloid press.
I spent last Friday taking an unaccompanied child to one of the major cities to be processed for asylum. For the next two years or so till his case is heared he CANNOT work, he CANNOT claim benefits and CANNOT leave the country. It's nonsense to claim the asylum seekers are economic migrants as they aren't entitled to receive wages or benefits. I suggest until people are aware of the "Facts" they offer an opinion not a statement of fact.

Most people who post on here have very little "factual" info but do have information put out by the tabloid press.
I spent last Friday taking an unaccompanied child to one of the major cities to be processed for asylum. For the next two years or so till his case is heared he CANNOT work, he CANNOT claim benefits and CANNOT leave the country. It's nonsense to claim the asylum seekers are economic migrants as they aren't entitled to receive wages or benefits. I suggest until people are aware of the "Facts" they offer an opinion not a statement of fact.

How does he get health care or education, how does he eat? Didn't know child could work full Time or claim benefits ?

The BBC really think we are stupid, "think of the children" wailed the reporter just as they show young men throw rocks at border police who return with tear gas. Well done Macedonia for taking a stand, just like Hungary did last year and guess what happened in Hungary? People travelling through came to a virtual stand still. If every country made the brave decisions Hungary, Macedonia, Slovenia and Croatia have made this come to a stop.

The BBC really think we are stupid, "think of the children" wailed the reporter just as they show young men throw rocks at border police who return with tear gas. Well done Macedonia for taking a stand, just like Hungary did last year and guess what happened in Hungary? People travelling through came to a virtual stand still. If every country made the brave decisions Hungary, Macedonia, Slovenia and Croatia have made this come to a stop.

Totally agree

Most people who post on here have very little "factual" info but do have information put out by the tabloid press.
I spent last Friday taking an unaccompanied child to one of the major cities to be processed for asylum. For the next two years or so till his case is heared he CANNOT work, he CANNOT claim benefits and CANNOT leave the country. It's nonsense to claim the asylum seekers are economic migrants as they aren't entitled to receive wages or benefits. I suggest until people are aware of the "Facts" they offer an opinion not a statement of fact.

Was'nt aware that any children could work or claim benefits.

I have always tried to stand up to bullys - too late to change now.
Time to support Purple in Cwmbran. I agree with much of what he has said. If we were in their situation we would probably be in the camps ourselves.............
.On the other hand,obviously refugees in these camps do need to be controlled and that is never going to be easy/ popular.Equally obvious is that we are dealing, rather badly across the EEC, with the symptoms not the cause of the problems. All the previous interventions have been disastrous but the politicians / people desperately need to resolve the issue at source - in the Middle East. In the meantime this country of Great Britain needs to play its part in taking a fair number of refugees. They are a group of people and like all groups whatever their narionality many will be hard working and some will not.
By showing human regard and kindness towards the plight of the Refugees P in C is branded a soft leftie. Put down your Daily Mail and Daily Express and smell the coffee. Yes there need to be controls BUT ....All the little Englanders getting upset at the threat these migrants pose. DO ME A FAVOUR!
God forbid that they take advantage of job opportunities, threaten the English culture and way of life -they might even not make much effort to learn the language. Oops...hang on a minute...... what has happened in Wales due to the huge influx of English, not all but most of whom, wanted to make Wales into an extension of England. .... Came here for the work opportunities, did not wish to learn Welsh nor have Welsh taught to their kids (they now complain if it is spoken in their presence) trample over our culture etc. And what is happening in parts of the Costa's - English (British) "culture" replacing Spanish culture and language. Etc

Gwyl Dewi Sant hapus i chi i gyd

Why you all fretting? Who wants to live in wales;Scotland or Ireland?.check the population figures .most immigrants gravitate to the bright lights of London.

Most people who post on here have very little "factual" info but do have information put out by the tabloid press.
I spent last Friday taking an unaccompanied child to one of the major cities to be processed for asylum. For the next two years or so till his case is heared he CANNOT work, he CANNOT claim benefits and CANNOT leave the country. It's nonsense to claim the asylum seekers are economic migrants as they aren't entitled to receive wages or benefits. I suggest until people are aware of the "Facts" they offer an opinion not a statement of fact.

How does he get health care or education, how does he eat? Didn't know child could work full Time or claim benefits ?

A child is Under 18 as regards being an unaccompanied asylum seekers. If a UK born child was estranged from parents they can claim income support or get a job. UAS CANNOT. The process to register as a UAS is degrading and not what I would wish to put any person through irrespective of age, gender or capacity. As I implied knowledge attained from the Mail is sensationalist and factually incorrect.

"A child is Under 18 as regards being an unaccompanied asylum seekers. If a UK born child was estranged from parents they can claim income support or get a job. UAS CANNOT. The process to register as a UAS is degrading and not what I would wish to put any person through irrespective of age, gender or capacity. As I implied knowledge attained from the Mail is sensationalist and factually incorrect."

Thank you NGB.........which was my original point. And on this subject, it is dangerous. FACTS tell you that far from being bombarded with AS, the UK is by FAR underperforming in terms of helping these people compared to almost any other country in Europe.

I have always tried to stand up to bullys - too late to change now.
Time to support Purple in Cwmbran. I agree with much of what he has said. If we were in their situation we would probably be in the camps ourselves.............
.On the other hand,obviously refugees in these camps do need to be controlled and that is never going to be easy/ popular.Equally obvious is that we are dealing, rather badly across the EEC, with the symptoms not the cause of the problems. All the previous interventions have been disastrous but the politicians / people desperately need to resolve the issue at source - in the Middle East. In the meantime this country of Great Britain needs to play its part in taking a fair number of refugees. They are a group of people and like all groups whatever their narionality many will be hard working and some will not.
By showing human regard and kindness towards the plight of the Refugees P in C is branded a soft leftie. Put down your Daily Mail and Daily Express and smell the coffee. Yes there need to be controls BUT ....All the little Englanders getting upset at the threat these migrants pose. DO ME A FAVOUR!
God forbid that they take advantage of job opportunities, threaten the English culture and way of life -they might even not make much effort to learn the language. Oops...hang on a minute...... what has happened in Wales due to the huge influx of English, not all but most of whom, wanted to make Wales into an extension of England. .... Came here for the work opportunities, did not wish to learn Welsh nor have Welsh taught to their kids (they now complain if it is spoken in their presence) trample over our culture etc. And what is happening in parts of the Costa's - English (British) "culture" replacing Spanish culture and language. Etc

Gwyl Dewi Sant hapus i chi i gyd

I don't particularly care about it I have had to work hard to bring all my Children up and they are all working hard. They will never have to accept benefits but if they did they have paid into it.

This lot in the camps look rough, dodgy and totally untrustworthy

Keep them over there I say, it's law that as soon as they reach a neutral country they can remain and be safe, so they have abused it straight away.

There is no way of checking if they are murders, abusers or anything else as most have deliberately got shot of their documents.

The way it's going the White mans Oscars will have turned to a Black mans Oscars to a Asylum seekers Oscars

All these do gooders should move out themselves and go and live in these Countries to help them out if they are worried instead of taking the high moral ground.

Keep them out unless they can bring something to the table

"A child is Under 18 as regards being an unaccompanied asylum seekers. If a UK born child was estranged from parents they can claim income support or get a job. UAS CANNOT. The process to register as a UAS is degrading and not what I would wish to put any person through irrespective of age, gender or capacity. As I implied knowledge attained from the Mail is sensationalist and factually incorrect."

Thank you NGB.........which was my original point. And on this subject, it is dangerous. FACTS tell you that far from being bombarded with AS, the UK is by FAR underperforming in terms of helping these people compared to almost any other country in Europe.

On the upside though our country has one of the biggest foreign aid budgets in the world and although you could be forgiven for thinking our country is not doing enough to help the AS's we put alot of the developed nations to shame with the size of our FA budget.I do subscribe to fixing the problem where it exists rather than moving it here.We all know the Syrian problem has been made worse by the superpowers so I think letting hundreds of thousands of migrants into Europe is just treating the symptoms and not fixing the problem.

Pullis, Sense at last, totally agree

I have always tried to stand up to bullys - too late to change now.
Time to support Purple in Cwmbran. I agree with much of what he has said. If we were in their situation we would probably be in the camps ourselves.............
.On the other hand,obviously refugees in these camps do need to be controlled and that is never going to be easy/ popular.Equally obvious is that we are dealing, rather badly across the EEC, with the symptoms not the cause of the problems. All the previous interventions have been disastrous but the politicians / people desperately need to resolve the issue at source - in the Middle East. In the meantime this country of Great Britain needs to play its part in taking a fair number of refugees. They are a group of people and like all groups whatever their narionality many will be hard working and some will not.
By showing human regard and kindness towards the plight of the Refugees P in C is branded a soft leftie. Put down your Daily Mail and Daily Express and smell the coffee. Yes there need to be controls BUT ....All the little Englanders getting upset at the threat these migrants pose. DO ME A FAVOUR!
God forbid that they take advantage of job opportunities, threaten the English culture and way of life -they might even not make much effort to learn the language. Oops...hang on a minute...... what has happened in Wales due to the huge influx of English, not all but most of whom, wanted to make Wales into an extension of England. .... Came here for the work opportunities, did not wish to learn Welsh nor have Welsh taught to their kids (they now complain if it is spoken in their presence) trample over our culture etc. And what is happening in parts of the Costa's - English (British) "culture" replacing Spanish culture and language. Etc

Gwyl Dewi Sant hapus i chi i gyd

I don't particularly care about it I have had to work hard to bring all my Children up and they are all working hard. They will never have to accept benefits but if they did they have paid into it.

This lot in the camps look rough, dodgy and totally untrustworthy

Keep them over there I say, it's law that as soon as they reach a neutral country they can remain and be safe, so they have abused it straight away.

There is no way of checking if they are murders, abusers or anything else as most have deliberately got shot of their documents.

The way it's going the White mans Oscars will have turned to a Black mans Oscars to a Asylum seekers Oscars

All these do gooders should move out themselves and go and live in these Countries to help them out if they are worried instead of taking the high moral ground.

Keep them out unless they can bring something to the table

This^^

I am happy to take in refugees from Syria itself, I think we should take in way more than 20k, i'd like us to take in a lot of orphans because they are our future. However anyone in Europe right now whether it be on the latest migrant boat landing in Greece or those twats in Calais should never be allowed to set foot in this country. These people have shown no respect for our laws or rules, they refuse to sign in anywhere and are now rioting at border posts with police.

You want a better life? Work hard, study hard get a good education or skill and keep out of trouble. Once you've done that apply to come and live here and you will be welcome with open arms. I love the Indians in this country because they all get it, they feel Indian and British and are very proud to live here. They abide by our values as well as celebrate their own in an inclusive way. Compare that to other communities and it's a joke.

Cardiff needs more Indians and less muslims.

Out of interest , what is your opinion on Indian Muslims? And how do you rate Bangladeshis or Sri Lankans?

I am happy to take in refugees from Syria itself, I think we should take in way more than 20k, i'd like us to take in a lot of orphans because they are our future. However anyone in Europe right now whether it be on the latest migrant boat landing in Greece or those twats in Calais should never be allowed to set foot in this country. These people have shown no respect for our laws or rules, they refuse to sign in anywhere and are now rioting at border posts with police.

You want a better life? Work hard, study hard get a good education or skill and keep out of trouble. Once you've done that apply to come and live here and you will be welcome with open arms. I love the Indians in this country because they all get it, they feel Indian and British and are very proud to live here. They abide by our values as well as celebrate their own in an inclusive way. Compare that to other communities and it's a joke.

Cardiff needs more Indians and less muslims.

Out of interest , what is your opinion on Indian Muslims? And how do you rate Bangladeshis or Sri Lankans?

Most of the curry houses are Bangladesh s in south Wales we need more Indian restaurant s

"A child is Under 18 as regards being an unaccompanied asylum seekers. If a UK born child was estranged from parents they can claim income support or get a job. UAS CANNOT. The process to register as a UAS is degrading and not what I would wish to put any person through irrespective of age, gender or capacity. As I implied knowledge attained from the Mail is sensationalist and factually incorrect."

Thank you NGB.........which was my original point. And on this subject, it is dangerous. FACTS tell you that far from being bombarded with AS, the UK is by FAR underperforming in terms of helping these people compared to almost any other country in Europe.

On the upside though our country has one of the biggest foreign aid budgets in the world and although you could be forgiven for thinking our country is not doing enough to help the AS's we put alot of the developed nations to shame with the size of our FA budget.I do subscribe to fixing the problem where it exists rather than moving it here.We all know the Syrian problem has been made worse by the superpowers so I think letting hundreds of thousands of migrants into Europe is just treating the symptoms and not fixing the problem.

Sneggy, in fairness you are right about UK ODA contributions. FACT. UK is bang on UN target of 0.7% GDP and in %age terms at least, puts many (inc USA by a million miles) to shame. Sweden, Luxembourg, Norway, Denmark all contribute more as a percentage of their GDP

I'll say it again. FACT's are out there. Don't simply believe the peddled bollox of the likes of Daily Mail...... or dare I say, UKIP.

PROPAGANDA

"Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea, while the organisors achieves victory by the persistent, organic, and militant union of those supporters who seem willing and able to carry on the fight for victory."

"The first task of propaganda is to win people for subsequent organisation; the first task of organisation is to win men for the continuation of propaganda.

The second task of propaganda is the disruption of the existing state of affairs and the permeation of this state of affairs with the new doctrine, while the second task of organisation must be the struggle for power, thus to achieve the final success of the doctrine."

Don't fall for it........

PROPAGANDA

"Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea, while the organisors achieves victory by the persistent, organic, and militant union of those supporters who seem willing and able to carry on the fight for victory."

"The first task of propaganda is to win people for subsequent organisation; the first task of organisation is to win men for the continuation of propaganda.

The second task of propaganda is the disruption of the existing state of affairs and the permeation of this state of affairs with the new doctrine, while the second task of organisation must be the struggle for power, thus to achieve the final success of the doctrine."

Don't fall for it........

getting a little boring now

I agree Paul............I'm outa here.

For the record, the quotes were from Mein Kampf. Just a thought.

Adios.

I agree Paul............I'm outa here.

For the record, the quotes were from Mein Kampf. Just a thought.

Adios.

not a thought at all

why dont you tell us all to stop reading the daily mail again?

I agree Paul............I'm outa here.

For the record, the quotes were from Mein Kampf. Just a thought.

Adios.

not a thought at all

why dont you tell us all to stop reading the daily mail again?

Not telling anyone to stop reading the Daily Mail. Just suggesting we look at facts before following misleading lines....

Most people who post on here have very little "factual" info but do have information put out by the tabloid press.
I spent last Friday taking an unaccompanied child to one of the major cities to be processed for asylum. For the next two years or so till his case is heared he CANNOT work, he CANNOT claim benefits and CANNOT leave the country. It's nonsense to claim the asylum seekers are economic migrants as they aren't entitled to receive wages or benefits. I suggest until people are aware of the "Facts" they offer an opinion not a statement of fact.

NorthGwentBlues, here's another fact.
A personal friend of mine, who is a fully qualified immigration solicitor and worked for the UKIAS (United Kingdom Immigration Advisory Service) (Government funded Agency)in Cardiff and Birmingham, Resigned on a matter of personal principal from his position due to the fact that so many Asylum cases that he was dealing with were quite obviously bogus claims and were being allowed.
Now works as a part-time Independent Immigration consultant and will not take on any bogus cases out of principal.

Clearly, most are Economic migrants or Economic Asylum seekers, especially at Calais, etc - the genuine families are the ones who I feel sorry for and most of them are still in Syria, etc.

Blooobirds Forever !!!

PROPAGANDA

"Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea, while the organisors achieves victory by the persistent, organic, and militant union of those supporters who seem willing and able to carry on the fight for victory."

"The first task of propaganda is to win people for subsequent organisation; the first task of organisation is to win men for the continuation of propaganda.

The second task of propaganda is the disruption of the existing state of affairs and the permeation of this state of affairs with the new doctrine, while the second task of organisation must be the struggle for power, thus to achieve the final success of the doctrine."

Don't fall for it........

I have read your posts and they would comfortably fit as PROPAGANDA but from your side of the argument. As you said don't fall for it.......

Most people who post on here have very little "factual" info but do have information put out by the tabloid press.
I spent last Friday taking an unaccompanied child to one of the major cities to be processed for asylum. For the next two years or so till his case is heared he CANNOT work, he CANNOT claim benefits and CANNOT leave the country. It's nonsense to claim the asylum seekers are economic migrants as they aren't entitled to receive wages or benefits. I suggest until people are aware of the "Facts" they offer an opinion not a statement of fact.

NorthGwentBlues, here's another fact.
A personal friend of mine, who is a fully qualified immigration solicitor and worked for the UKIAS (United Kingdom Immigration Advisory Service) (Government funded Agency)in Cardiff and Birmingham, Resigned on a matter of personal principal from his position due to the fact that so many Asylum cases that he was dealing with were quite obviously bogus claims and were being allowed.
Now works as a part-time Independent Immigration consultant and will not take on any bogus cases out of principal.

Clearly, most are Economic migrants or Economic Asylum seekers, especially at Calais, etc - the genuine families are the ones who I feel sorry for and most of them are still in Syria, etc.

Blooobirds Forever !!!

Interesting as the 10 we have been involved with have been declined. Due to the part of the world they orginate from not having repatriation with the UK they are now stateless. Unable to work or claim. The astounding thing is that the community that ha's existed in Wales for decades has taken responsibility for them.

Working for the UK immigration service must be one of the most depressing and emotionally draining jobs I could imagine. As for the UAS all I can say is thank god we live in a tolerant and benevolent country where we don't discriminate on colour of skin, religion or sexuality.

Great Britain is the place to live. No wonder people want to live here

Because the French dont want them - they should have been deported years ago.

PROPAGANDA

"Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea, while the organisors achieves victory by the persistent, organic, and militant union of those supporters who seem willing and able to carry on the fight for victory."

"The first task of propaganda is to win people for subsequent organisation; the first task of organisation is to win men for the continuation of propaganda.

The second task of propaganda is the disruption of the existing state of affairs and the permeation of this state of affairs with the new doctrine, while the second task of organisation must be the struggle for power, thus to achieve the final success of the doctrine."

Don't fall for it........

I have read your posts and they would comfortably fit as PROPAGANDA but from your side of the argument. As you said don't fall for it.......

Agree 100% with Tony on this.

Because the French dont want them - they should have been deported years ago.

Agree why should they be our problem ? French should of sorted this year's ago

I am happy to take in refugees from Syria itself, I think we should take in way more than 20k, i'd like us to take in a lot of orphans because they are our future. However anyone in Europe right now whether it be on the latest migrant boat landing in Greece or those twats in Calais should never be allowed to set foot in this country. These people have shown no respect for our laws or rules, they refuse to sign in anywhere and are now rioting at border posts with police.

You want a better life? Work hard, study hard get a good education or skill and keep out of trouble. Once you've done that apply to come and live here and you will be welcome with open arms. I love the Indians in this country because they all get it, they feel Indian and British and are very proud to live here. They abide by our values as well as celebrate their own in an inclusive way. Compare that to other communities and it's a joke.

Cardiff needs more Indians and less muslims.

Out of interest , what is your opinion on Indian Muslims? And how do you rate Bangladeshis or Sri Lankans?

I do think there is something about islam which is incompatible with western life. Indians throw themselves into British life and the Hindus drink like fish

Sri Linkans aren't Muslims in the main, just as likely to be Catholic actually. Buddism is the religion there.

Islam is not compatible with Western Democracy.