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Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:31 am

eddiep wrote:Great result. My feeling that we got lucky with getting ameobi suspended.
Noone being out may also have aided that. The team yesterday
May be picked as a 4 4 2 or 4 4 1 1 but the players in it are so flexible.

Hope Russell doesn't revert to using ameobi and keeps a winning team.

Getting rid of KJ and Revell and all the others has been his best work here.


In fairness to Slade, he is probably obligated to give Ameobi game time if fit, as part of the loan agreement. So, no matter how poor he plays, I wouldn't be surprised to see him making the team or bench every week.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:18 am

Great result yesterday, to be fair Slade is doing a much better job than I first expected & slowly proving me & many others wrong :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Let's hope it continues :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Support the boys :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:21 am

Why? Did we just get promoted or something and nobody bothered to tell me. There was me thinking we had just won a game and got three points. On another note, I have'nt read any criticism of the ref yesterday. Strange that Hmmm. Or could it be because we won.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:52 am

1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:53 am

Nuclearblue wrote:With the squad we have we should be top 3 shows how shit Slade is :sladeout:


Bollocks

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:10 am

With what he's had to put up with like getting rid of so many players no budget transfer embargo I think his done a fantastic job to still be up there challenging for the play offs.
It hasn't been pretty but you can't argue he's doing a bloody good job.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:20 am

Going off on a tangent I always got Tan's thinking in giving the job to Slade on what in football terms is a small reported salary. Whoever we appointed in the wake of OGS was going to have to go through a period of cost cutting and working with a small transfer budget so it made perfect sense to start the cut backs with the man in charge.

When it comes to value for money Slade's appointment is miles ahead of other recent managers (including Malky) when all circumstances are taken into account.

The argument that we have a squad which should be top 6 any way is replicated throughout this league as each team are so evenly matched. Even those teams with lesser resources like MK Dons remain competitive by using containing tactics.

So getting us so close to the play-offs has been an excellent return for the money invested in Slade and frankly it is the way ahead for the more savvy clubs.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:37 pm

Cwmbran Blue wrote:Who is man enough to apologise for all the nasty digs aimed at Russell Slade over the past year and a bit ?



Always said I hope Slade does well and if he takes us up then he would be right up there with the best, however i never really thought he would, That said yesterday's performance was excellent and he really seems to be a decent guy, so good luck to him. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:11 pm

I will be if we hit our stated goal of playoffs. Still four points off competing.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:29 pm

What a pathetic post, good win but f**k me we just drew agaisnt Rotherham & MK at home :roll: get a grip.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:31 pm

Let's see where we are at the end of the season then I'll hold my hands up to being wrong

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:13 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:I won't admit I'm wrong on Slade until he gets us promoted or close to it, what I will admit, is that I now believe Slade is a better manager than originally thought, especially given the agenda he has had to work to, which we as supporters, we're not aware of when he arrived at the club. I would also add, that I would never abuse or boo any City manager :thumbup:





I couldn't agree with this post more! :thumbup:

Obviously, things could change rapidly (yet again!) come 10pm Tuesday evening, but I think we have seen a tide change in recent weeks both in Russell Slade's tactics (partially enforced?) and also with the diminishing dissent from paying supporters (keyboard warriors, including me on occasion, aren't nearly so important! ;) ) :laughing6:

I actually heard a small group in 117 this weekend trying to get up a rendition of "Do the Ayatollah, Russell!" :shock:

A sign of the times? Just maybe! ;)

I'll confirm that (or otherwise) on Tueday night or the next time Vincent Tan is in town! ;) :thumbup: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:12 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:I won't admit I'm wrong on Slade until he gets us promoted or close to it, what I will admit, is that I now believe Slade is a better manager than originally thought, especially given the agenda he has had to work to, which we as supporters, we're not aware of when he arrived at the club. I would also add, that I would never abuse or boo any City manager :thumbup:



If the season ends today he deserves a new contract

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:26 pm

blue lagoon wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:I won't admit I'm wrong on Slade until he gets us promoted or close to it, what I will admit, is that I now believe Slade is a better manager than originally thought, especially given the agenda he has had to work to, which we as supporters, we're not aware of when he arrived at the club. I would also add, that I would never abuse or boo any City manager :thumbup:



If the season ends today he deserves a new contract

We are 7th and achieved nothing though if the season ends today. :?

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:49 pm

I think there has to be a run of performances of that level before people have to admit they are wrong! Yesterday was an excellent performance, but what's the chances of immers being dropped for ameobi etc. I hope slade can shake all the doubters; me included, but only more quality performances will do that not 1 here and 1 there.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:19 pm

Mr Potato wrote:I think there has to be a run of performances of that level before people have to admit they are wrong! Yesterday was an excellent performance, but what's the chances of immers being dropped for ameobi etc. I hope slade can shake all the doubters; me included, but only more quality performances will do that not 1 here and 1 there.



You dont seriously believe hes going to drop immers after that do you?

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:55 pm

bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:59 pm

Threads like this just need to be left until the end of the season.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:00 pm

bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:10 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

And Brighton just smashed Bristol City away after we smashed them Saturday.

So the guy is right. Don't get carried away by 1 result. Especially when we haven't followed up 1 good result with another since the 6th game I to the season.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:15 pm

polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

And Brighton just smashed Bristol City away after we smashed them Saturday.

So the guy is right. Don't get carried away by 1 result. Especially when we haven't followed up 1 good result with another since the 6th game I to the season.

I wasn't getting carried away by one result and you have to take each game as it comes, but Brighton have just smashed a team who also played on Saturday, a team who are floundering at the wrong end of the table, whilst we played in a pissing down gale on Saturday, whilst Boro had 10 days off sunning themselves!

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:19 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

And Brighton just smashed Bristol City away after we smashed them Saturday.

So the guy is right. Don't get carried away by 1 result. Especially when we haven't followed up 1 good result with another since the 6th game I to the season.

I wasn't getting carried away by one result and you have to take each game as it comes, but Brighton have just smashed a team who also played on Saturday, a team who are floundering at the wrong end of the table, whilst we played in a pissing down gale on Saturday, whilst Boro had 10 days off sunning themselves!


Brighton also played in a pissing down gale. They were there Saturday too yet were 2-0 up in no time.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:26 pm

polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

And Brighton just smashed Bristol City away after we smashed them Saturday.

So the guy is right. Don't get carried away by 1 result. Especially when we haven't followed up 1 good result with another since the 6th game I to the season.

I wasn't getting carried away by one result and you have to take each game as it comes, but Brighton have just smashed a team who also played on Saturday, a team who are floundering at the wrong end of the table, whilst we played in a pissing down gale on Saturday, whilst Boro had 10 days off sunning themselves!


Brighton also played in a pissing down gale. They were there Saturday too yet were 2-0 up in no time.

You miss the point, Bristol City also played on Saturday, thereby exerting themselves the same way as Brighton and ourselves did, our opponents tonight didn't play in a pissing down gale on Saturday however, as they haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training!

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:32 am

Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

And Brighton just smashed Bristol City away after we smashed them Saturday.

So the guy is right. Don't get carried away by 1 result. Especially when we haven't followed up 1 good result with another since the 6th game I to the season.

I wasn't getting carried away by one result and you have to take each game as it comes, but Brighton have just smashed a team who also played on Saturday, a team who are floundering at the wrong end of the table, whilst we played in a pissing down gale on Saturday, whilst Boro had 10 days off sunning themselves!


Brighton also played in a pissing down gale. They were there Saturday too yet were 2-0 up in no time.

You miss the point, Bristol City also played on Saturday, thereby exerting themselves the same way as Brighton and ourselves did, our opponents tonight didn't play in a pissing down gale on Saturday however, as they haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training!


Why not make a few changes and freshen the team up then? Can't accept defeat because we played Saturday and they didn't

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:24 am

KBK-13 wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

And Brighton just smashed Bristol City away after we smashed them Saturday.

So the guy is right. Don't get carried away by 1 result. Especially when we haven't followed up 1 good result with another since the 6th game I to the season.

I wasn't getting carried away by one result and you have to take each game as it comes, but Brighton have just smashed a team who also played on Saturday, a team who are floundering at the wrong end of the table, whilst we played in a pissing down gale on Saturday, whilst Boro had 10 days off sunning themselves!


Brighton also played in a pissing down gale. They were there Saturday too yet were 2-0 up in no time.

You miss the point, Bristol City also played on Saturday, thereby exerting themselves the same way as Brighton and ourselves did, our opponents tonight didn't play in a pissing down gale on Saturday however, as they haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training!


Why not make a few changes and freshen the team up then? Can't accept defeat because we played Saturday and they didn't

Looking forward to seeing the next excuse. Last few weeks we've done the ref one several times, the weather once, and now the sunning of the opposition. Maybe we can hold a poll at the end of the season to decide the best excuse of the year.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:48 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
polo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
bluemoon wrote:1 good result is not going to have me shouting from the rooftops.... we could get beat 4-0 in the very next game thats how inconsistent we are...


boom there it is... not far off...

You do realise that Boro haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training, whist our boys ran their socks off in a pi$$ing down gale on Saturday don't you?

And Brighton just smashed Bristol City away after we smashed them Saturday.

So the guy is right. Don't get carried away by 1 result. Especially when we haven't followed up 1 good result with another since the 6th game I to the season.

I wasn't getting carried away by one result and you have to take each game as it comes, but Brighton have just smashed a team who also played on Saturday, a team who are floundering at the wrong end of the table, whilst we played in a pissing down gale on Saturday, whilst Boro had 10 days off sunning themselves!


Brighton also played in a pissing down gale. They were there Saturday too yet were 2-0 up in no time.

You miss the point, Bristol City also played on Saturday, thereby exerting themselves the same way as Brighton and ourselves did, our opponents tonight didn't play in a pissing down gale on Saturday however, as they haven't played for 10 days and have been abroad doing warm weather training!


Why not make a few changes and freshen the team up then? Can't accept defeat because we played Saturday and they didn't

Looking forward to seeing the next excuse. Last few weeks we've done the ref one several times, the weather once, and now the sunning of the opposition. Maybe we can hold a poll at the end of the season to decide the best excuse of the year.

I certainly haven't made any excuses for any of our disappointing performances this season and as KBK-13 pointed out, there was certainly an opportunity to make some changes to freshen the team up for last night after Saturday's exertions, but after such a good performance like we gave on Saturday, most people would have thought that it would have been harsh to drop anybody from the starting eleven!

Having now seen limited highlights from last night (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... -1-cardiff), it was clear that we made a lot of mistakes and the fannying around by Malone which led to the first goal, possibly being the worst of the lot. After being on such a high after Saturday's win and going ahead like we did last night, to concede such a sloppy goal, so soon after going in front knocks the stuffing out of teams and it appeared that we struggled to get to half time still level. It also appears that we started the second half quite brightly, until Boro wrestled the initiative back and we made more mistakes, which subsequently led to their goals and other opportunities, which they failed to capitalize on!

Quite obviously, you can't expect to win matches when you make so many mistakes, but when those mistakes come after such an almost perfectly complete performance like we gave last Saturday, you could attribute some of those mistakes to tiredness or being a bit leggy, so to dismiss the possibility of the difference in rest periods between both teams so nonchalantly out of hand, in not making any difference between Boro and us last night, is to show a complete ignorance of the understanding of recovery processes and recovery times!

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:05 am

As I said one game dosen't make Slade the messiah. Then the same voices saying Boro ain't played for ten days and they had time in the sun, whilst our players got soaking wet thrashing Brighton.
Now these are highly paid professional players that should not make jack shit.
Last night to many individual mistakes cost us dearly awful defending and giving the ball away.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:28 am

Nuclearblue wrote:As I said one game dosen't make Slade the messiah. Then the same voices saying Boro ain't played for ten days and they had time in the sun, whilst our players got soaking wet thrashing Brighton.
Now these are highly paid professional players that should not make jack shit.
Last night to many individual mistakes cost us dearly awful defending and giving the ball away.

Well it certainly appears that the boys worked hard to try and get the win after their exertions last Saturday, but if you ask any sports scientist whether a 10 day break from football, coupled with a warm weather training and bonding exercise is more advantageous to a team playing against another team, who ran their bollocks off in a pissing down gale only 3 days earlier, I think you know what the answer will be!

I accept your point about the individual errors, but none of us know for certain whether the difference between the break from football was a factor or not and I've no idea why you've mentioned about them being highly paid!

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:40 am

Overthemoon wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:As I said one game dosen't make Slade the messiah. Then the same voices saying Boro ain't played for ten days and they had time in the sun, whilst our players got soaking wet thrashing Brighton.
Now these are highly paid professional players that should not make jack shit.
Last night to many individual mistakes cost us dearly awful defending and giving the ball away.

Well it certainly appears that the boys worked hard to try and get the win after their exertions last Saturday, but if you ask any sports scientist whether a 10 day break from football, coupled with a warm weather training and bonding exercise is more advantageous to a team playing against another team, who ran their bollocks off in a pissing down gale only 3 days earlier, I think you know what the answer will be!

I accept your point about the individual errors, but none of us know for certain whether the difference between the break from football was a factor or not and I've no idea why you've mentioned about them being highly paid!

I think the main reason we were beaten is that Middlesbrough are a better side than us, and have better players in key positions. I don't think the outcome would have been any different if our players had spent 6 weeks sunning themselves in Barbados before the game, After the amount of matches now played, the table does not lie, and the fact of the matter is that unless we can improve and become more consistent, we are destined to remain a mid table side.

Re: Who is man enough to say they were wrong ?

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:52 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:As I said one game dosen't make Slade the messiah. Then the same voices saying Boro ain't played for ten days and they had time in the sun, whilst our players got soaking wet thrashing Brighton.
Now these are highly paid professional players that should not make jack shit.
Last night to many individual mistakes cost us dearly awful defending and giving the ball away.

Well it certainly appears that the boys worked hard to try and get the win after their exertions last Saturday, but if you ask any sports scientist whether a 10 day break from football, coupled with a warm weather training and bonding exercise is more advantageous to a team playing against another team, who ran their bollocks off in a pissing down gale only 3 days earlier, I think you know what the answer will be!

I accept your point about the individual errors, but none of us know for certain whether the difference between the break from football was a factor or not and I've no idea why you've mentioned about them being highly paid!

I think the main reason we were beaten is that Middlesbrough are a better side than us, and have better players in key positions. I don't think the outcome would have been any different if our players had spent 6 weeks sunning themselves in Barbados before the game, After the amount of matches now played, the table does not lie, and the fact of the matter is that unless we can improve and become more consistent, we are destined to remain a mid table side.

Well I agree about the table not lying and over the course of the season, Boro and many other teams have been better than us. However, you could have said the same about Brighton before Saturday's result and slowly but surely, our football and team work ethic has improved. Since the loan of KJ & the sale of Joe Mason, we've suddenly found an energy, team spirit and movement amongst the whole team, which wasn't there before, culminating in Saturday's almost complete performance!

Offensively, it appeared that last night we showed not far off the same energy levels as we did against Brighton, but as we made so many mistakes, this clearly cost us. As I said earlier, none of us know for certain whether the difference in breaks from football played a part in last night's defeat, but we all know that when you are tired or a bit jaded, that's when mistakes occur. Hopefully we can recover in time for Saturday's game, where we certainly won't be able to use the difference in break times as an excuse and we can pick up another 3 points and go on another good run!