So Annis refused to shake tans hand

Culturally that'll be a huge sign of disrespect for Tan.

Honour is high with Tan .

He has kept his word so now is the time to support him as he's not going anywhere soon

Like the honour of respecting tradition and culture... Oh wait

Annis's choice. Stood by his principles. Instead of bending over at the promise (yet again) of clearing the massive debt - some inherited (and taken ownership of) and the rest created by Tan and his cronies.
Well done Annis.
I may have missed it but has Tan ever apologised for trying to destroy our history, walk all over our tradition and ripping the heart and soul out of the club? When he does that (if he hasn't) then perhaps we could start to move on.

Fair point made fella

Culturally that'll be a huge sign of disrespect for Tan.

Honour is high with Tan .

He has kept his word so now is the time to support him as he's not going anywhere soon

Like the honour of respecting tradition and culture... Oh wait

Well, like it or not, the majority of fans gave Tan their backing for the changes by (a) taking the scarves, (b) by increasing attendances the following season, and worse of all IMHO (c) only really protesting after the event when the club was on its way back to The Championship!

Again, like it or not, only a comparative few 'kicked up a fuss' at the time it happened and the rest of us effectively gave Tan the 'green light' by (a) our general inactivity IF we truly felt that opposed to the red right from the beginning, and (b) by those increased attendances in the year after!

One thing you can say about Forever Blue is that he has been pretty consistent in his statements on this subject, including stating that he would always be open to sitting down with Tan if the meeting was a genuine (not staged) one

Have to remember that City fans have a history of being easily fooled. Look how many took every word that Hammam said at face value, and lapped up his walking around the pitch waving to the fans. Can't blame someone for being a bit cautious, we've heard this sort of thing before.

Have to remember that City fans have a history of being easily fooled. Look how many took every word that Hammam said at face value, and lapped up his walking around the pitch waving to the fans. Can't blame someone for being a bit cautious, we've heard this sort of thing before.

Steve, as Cardif City FC fans, I would like to believe we all wanted to see 'the Dream' for so long that we were prepared to give everyone who came in a chance to live up to their own hype!

To me, the only one that carried out his promises to the letter was the late Rick Wright. He came (at a time of trouble), he saw, he stated what he would do, he stated for how long, he brought in the great Eddie May, he delivered on it all (including the "I'll be out of here regardless" bit) and he left with no one prepared to build on the solid foundations he had laid!

There's a difference between 'caution' and pure 'cynicism' and far too many are falling into the latter category nowadays, despite our glass currently becoming half full rather than half empty!

Have to remember that City fans have a history of being easily fooled. Look how many took every word that Hammam said at face value, and lapped up his walking around the pitch waving to the fans. Can't blame someone for being a bit cautious, we've heard this sort of thing before.

Steve, as Cardif City FC fans, I would like to believe we all wanted to see 'the Dream' for so long that we were prepared to give everyone who came in a chance to live up to their own hype!

To me, the only one that carried out his promises to the letter was the late Rick Wright. He came (at a time of trouble), he saw, he stated what he would do, he stated for how long, he brought in the great Eddie May, he delivered on it all (including the "I'll be out of here regardless" bit) and he left with no one prepared to build on the solid foundations he had laid!

There's a difference between 'caution' and pure 'cynicism' and far too many are falling into the latter category nowadays, despite our glass currently becoming half full rather than half empty!

If Tan turns out to be half as good as Rick Wright, I will be first in the queue to shake his hand. I believe that there is a good chance he will be true to his word, but after so many false promises I am always a little dubious whenever anyone says something that sounds to good to be true. Be great when Cardiff are finally debt free, and will probably be the first time in my life that this club will be without financial problems.

Have to remember that City fans have a history of being easily fooled. Look how many took every word that Hammam said at face value, and lapped up his walking around the pitch waving to the fans. Can't blame someone for being a bit cautious, we've heard this sort of thing before.

Steve, as Cardif City FC fans, I would like to believe we all wanted to see 'the Dream' for so long that we were prepared to give everyone who came in a chance to live up to their own hype!

To me, the only one that carried out his promises to the letter was the late Rick Wright. He came (at a time of trouble), he saw, he stated what he would do, he stated for how long, he brought in the great Eddie May, he delivered on it all (including the "I'll be out of here regardless" bit) and he left with no one prepared to build on the solid foundations he had laid!

There's a difference between 'caution' and pure 'cynicism' and far too many are falling into the latter category nowadays, despite our glass currently becoming half full rather than half empty!

If Tan turns out to be half as good as Rick Wright, I will be first in the queue to shake his hand. I believe that there is a good chance he will be true to his word, but after so many false promises I am always a little dubious whenever anyone says something that sounds to good to be true. Be great when Cardiff are finally debt free, and will probably be the first time in my life that this club will be without financial problems.

Indeed!

If left to some we would still be at war with the Germans.

Bring them on...

Culturally that'll be a huge sign of disrespect for Tan.

Honour is high with Tan .

He has kept his word so now is the time to support him as he's not going anywhere soon

Like the honour of respecting tradition and culture... Oh wait

Well, like it or not, the majority of fans gave Tan their backing for the changes by (a) taking the scarves, (b) by increasing attendances the following season, and worse of all IMHO (c) only really protesting after the event when the club was on its way back to The Championship!

Again, like it or not, only a comparative few 'kicked up a fuss' at the time it happened and the rest of us effectively gave Tan the 'green light' by (a) our general inactivity IF we truly felt that opposed to the red right from the beginning, and (b) by those increased attendances in the year after!

One thing you can say about Forever Blue is that he has been pretty consistent in his statements on this subject, including stating that he would always be open to sitting down with Tan if the meeting was a genuine (not staged) one

Yeah I'm aware of all that,but like Annis I have my own opinion and it hasn't changed since day 1. I can only talk for myself

Culturally that'll be a huge sign of disrespect for Tan.

Honour is high with Tan .

He has kept his word so now is the time to support him as he's not going anywhere soon

Like the honour of respecting tradition and culture... Oh wait

Well, like it or not, the majority of fans gave Tan their backing for the changes by (a) taking the scarves, (b) by increasing attendances the following season, and worse of all IMHO (c) only really protesting after the event when the club was on its way back to The Championship!

Again, like it or not, only a comparative few 'kicked up a fuss' at the time it happened and the rest of us effectively gave Tan the 'green light' by (a) our general inactivity IF we truly felt that opposed to the red right from the beginning, and (b) by those increased attendances in the year after!

One thing you can say about Forever Blue is that he has been pretty consistent in his statements on this subject, including stating that he would always be open to sitting down with Tan if the meeting was a genuine (not staged) one

Yeah I'm aware of all that,but like Annis I have my own opinion and it hasn't changed since day 1. I can only talk for myself

You haven't (changed your view)!

I wouldn't shake his hand either. Don't trust the bloke