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Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:48 pm

jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:51 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote: During the rebrand we saw hundreds of posts about fans who would prefer City in League 1 in Blue rather than the Premiership in red. They now have City in blue in a league above (the Championship) yet they have all gone missing or moan and sulk about Tan




im starting to get a real issue with people saying this nonsense

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:00 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote: During the rebrand we saw hundreds of posts about fans who would prefer City in League 1 in Blue rather than the Premiership in red. They now have City in blue in a league above (the Championship) yet they have all gone missing or moan and sulk about Tan




im starting to get a real issue with people saying this nonsense

What's the issue ? People where saying it and they still don't go I know plenty from the various protest groups who turned up to Leeds game and can't be arsed to go anymore ,just excuse s on excuses some include good friends of mine

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:06 pm

wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:08 pm

wez1927 wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote: During the rebrand we saw hundreds of posts about fans who would prefer City in League 1 in Blue rather than the Premiership in red. They now have City in blue in a league above (the Championship) yet they have all gone missing or moan and sulk about Tan




im starting to get a real issue with people saying this nonsense

What's the issue ? People where saying it and they still don't go I know plenty from the various protest groups who turned up to Leeds game and can't be arsed to go anymore ,just excuse s on excuses some include good friends of mine



because theres too many other factors to attendence. to say they have "all gone missing" ... who are these "they" in the first place.

tell me how many people actively stated they stopped going and would rather see us in blue in league two, how many of these now still dont go to games? Yeah there will be a few of course, but theres no large group of supporters making promises and not returning, its hard to imagine the change of colour making much of a difference to attendances in the first place!


i reckon if you look at this forum as an example, a lot of the people who stated they would rather us be in blue and playing in league two were already going to games anyway, like myself :ayatollah:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:11 pm

Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:22 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:44 pm

Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:02 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy



Actually only debt tan as got us into in reality is with big spending on players and wages! But is rectifying that now, 24m is Sam's and 99% of clubs make anual loss so that's not tans debt its clubs! Or is tan responsible for every bit of debt? :o

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:05 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy


I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong but the debt was about 28 million surely?
In May 2014 the club stated Tan had put in over 150 million.

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:21 pm

Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy


I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong but the debt was about 28 million surely?
In May 2014 the club stated Tan had put in over 150 million.

Your wrong it was 63 million and the 150 including paying the historical debts and his share investment ,he's written off nearly 20 million already ,shame Langston didn't

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:25 pm

Double G wrote:are these the right people to meet up with ?
i would much rather him meet up with season ticket holders and fans that watch the club home and away throughout the season every game.
i get it some if the trust do but it seems its allways the same people.
why doesnt he meet a load of season ticket holders thats going to Charlton on weekend, wether that be the trust or not ? it may open his eyes to a different view on issues not the same old in the click people


I believe the intention of the meeting is to have a small number of people attending , including elected fans` representatives so that matters can be discussed fully in the time available and reported back to fans accordingly. This would be very difficult in a meeting thrown open to a large audience , although I see no reason why a follow up meeting (or a "meet the fans" at Charlton) cannot be held at a later date.
You seem to suggest that the people who will be there tomorrow are not people who are season ticket holders and watch the games both home and away , but most present will fall into this category.

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:29 pm

Double G wrote:are these the right people to meet up with ?
i would much rather him meet up with season ticket holders and fans that watch the club home and away throughout the season every game.
i get it some if the trust do but it seems its allways the same people.
why doesnt he meet a load of season ticket holders thats going to Charlton on weekend, wether that be the trust or not ? it may open his eyes to a different view on issues not the same old in the click people


Gareth, Because they would speak out and it would not look good then in the media.

I believe Keith Morgan will say it as he sees it and won't bow down.
But in my opinion the majority of the others will just act as though they are grateful etc and thats perfect for the media.

I do believe an audience of say 50 season ticket holders should be randomly selected to ask questions. :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:43 pm

Tan will probably talk more bollox's ,hey don't hurt to let him speak,you never know,he might do something good

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:59 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:Tan will probably talk more bollox's ,hey don't hurt to let him speak,you never know,he might do something good


He might talk bollox as you say but I and many others are starting to think its the ones unwilling to listen are the real enemy's of this club.

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:17 pm

Somebody tell him to carrying on selling what he can while he can then f**k off for me. Cheers :bluescarf:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:18 pm

Be interesting to hear what comes out of this meeting. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions though based on words alone. In my mind Tan is a businessman first and foremost. I doubt if he will ever feel the same way about Cardiff that the fans do, and whatever he does will ultimately be whatever is best for him. He is based on the other side of the world and this is purely a business venture, he has no links to Cardiff apart from this business. If his actions benefit the club in the future. all well and good. I am sure that he will say whatever the Trust are hoping he'll say, but it is his actions that will count, not just saying the right things. I guess we may have a better idea after the meeting (providing it happens).

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:54 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:" UPDATED " :ayatollah:


Vincent Tan to hold talks with Cardiff City fans as he flies to UK for rare visit

Representatives from Cardiff City Supporters' Trust have been invited by the club to hold talks with the Malaysian billionaire


Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan will meet with supporters on Thursday as he makes a rare visit to the UK.

Tan flies in tomorrow and will be at the Bluebirds' game with Charlton on Saturday.

Representatives from Cardiff City Supporters' Trust have been invited by the club to hold talks with the Malaysian billionaire, who will travel to the Welsh capital as part of his visit.

Tan's plans on converting debt to equity and his long-term commitment to the club are sure to be top of the agenda, while the future of manager Russell Slade is another burning issue.






Meeting with Vincent Tan

The Trust and the Cardiff Supporters Club has been invited to a meeting with the club's major shareholder Vincent Tan tomorrow lunchtime.



Just had an email from the Trust - questions invited for a meeting with Vinnie boy tomorrow.

No other info.


Trust reps and Cardiff Supporters club meeting Vincent Tan and with others 2morrow,Trust members can email questions by 5pm.


Can I just say that the only bit I posted when I started this post this morning was this -

"Meeting with Vincent Tan

Just had an email from the Trust - questions invited for a meeting with Vinnie boy tomorrow.

No other info."


I understand now it's been 'updated' but not by me - I'd prefer my entry to remain as it was, as I made no reference to debt to equity or anything else. It isn't clear that it isn't me who has updated the post with other statements that I don't know anything about.

If whoever updated the post can state where the source for the rest of the post is from then I'd be delighted to learn that.

Thanks...Jimmy

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:00 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
The Voice of Reason wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
ThomasC wrote:An apology, even if he shifts blame on others it would be accepted. Rebrand sucked the life out of the club, hence supporter apathy to what has been results wise, an ok season


a load of bollox-move on ffs


Agree.
Terrible and well documented mistakes were made. It's time to move on.


Add my agreement also.

ThomasC attitude is typical of what is holding this club back. If apologises are required then the supporters can start by saying sorry for the awful personal abuse directed at Tan at the meeting tomorrow.

The bigger picture is Cardiff City Football Club and always has been. It helps no one by bleating on about 'personal' hurt when the club's future is at risk. The rebrand is now a notable historical mistake which has been put right. Time to grow up and put the club first.


Are you people for real? Tan binned our identity, destroyed our fanbase, ruined the Club financially with terrible decisions and built a white elephant stand. In short, he made just about every blunder he could make while showing utter contempt for you and you still want to let bygones be bygones? If he's not gonna make the Club debt free as he duped you into believing he would, run him out of town and take the consequences. Don't you have any pride and dignity at all?


The Voice of Reason be fucked.Last time I looked Sam Hamman is the only one with something to smile about.Our fanbase is at a historical average,financial outlook is better than before he became involved.Its really easy to be scathing about the debt when your answer is about spending someone elses money.

Do us a favour Mr Multi,be Brave enough to express this garbage with your true ID-Thankfully posting this outdated drivel on here is as close as you'll get to infuencing this meeting


Mr Multi? :lol: The name's Mike Roderick, Smeggers what's yours? Not that it makes any difference. And let's get it right, I wanted the spend, spend, spend, circus to stop long ago unlike the ones who sold their soul for a spin of the wheel.

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:11 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:
JimmyJazz wrote:" UPDATED " :ayatollah:


Vincent Tan to hold talks with Cardiff City fans as he flies to UK for rare visit

Representatives from Cardiff City Supporters' Trust have been invited by the club to hold talks with the Malaysian billionaire


Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan will meet with supporters on Thursday as he makes a rare visit to the UK.

Tan flies in tomorrow and will be at the Bluebirds' game with Charlton on Saturday.

Representatives from Cardiff City Supporters' Trust have been invited by the club to hold talks with the Malaysian billionaire, who will travel to the Welsh capital as part of his visit.

Tan's plans on converting debt to equity and his long-term commitment to the club are sure to be top of the agenda, while the future of manager Russell Slade is another burning issue.






Meeting with Vincent Tan

The Trust and the Cardiff Supporters Club has been invited to a meeting with the club's major shareholder Vincent Tan tomorrow lunchtime.



Just had an email from the Trust - questions invited for a meeting with Vinnie boy tomorrow.

No other info.


Trust reps and Cardiff Supporters club meeting Vincent Tan and with others 2morrow,Trust members can email questions by 5pm.


Can I just say that the only bit I posted when I started this post this morning was this -

"Meeting with Vincent Tan

Just had an email from the Trust - questions invited for a meeting with Vinnie boy tomorrow.

No other info."


I understand now it's been 'updated' but not by me - I'd prefer my entry to remain as it was, as I made no reference to debt to equity or anything else. It isn't clear that it isn't me who has updated the post with other statements that I don't know anything about.

If whoever updated the post can state where the source for the rest of the post is from then I'd be delighted to learn that.

Thanks...Jimmy


I agree and I've updated all the info only, No opinions in there :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:17 pm

The Voice of Reason wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
The Voice of Reason wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
ThomasC wrote:An apology, even if he shifts blame on others it would be accepted. Rebrand sucked the life out of the club, hence supporter apathy to what has been results wise, an ok season


a load of bollox-move on ffs


Agree.
Terrible and well documented mistakes were made. It's time to move on.


Add my agreement also.

ThomasC attitude is typical of what is holding this club back. If apologises are required then the supporters can start by saying sorry for the awful personal abuse directed at Tan at the meeting tomorrow.

The bigger picture is Cardiff City Football Club and always has been. It helps no one by bleating on about 'personal' hurt when the club's future is at risk. The rebrand is now a notable historical mistake which has been put right. Time to grow up and put the club first.


Are you people for real? Tan binned our identity, destroyed our fanbase, ruined the Club financially with terrible decisions and built a white elephant stand. In short, he made just about every blunder he could make while showing utter contempt for you and you still want to let bygones be bygones? If he's not gonna make the Club debt free as he duped you into believing he would, run him out of town and take the consequences. Don't you have any pride and dignity at all?


The Voice of Reason be fucked.Last time I looked Sam Hamman is the only one with something to smile about.Our fanbase is at a historical average,financial outlook is better than before he became involved.Its really easy to be scathing about the debt when your answer is about spending someone elses money.

Do us a favour Mr Multi,be Brave enough to express this garbage with your true ID-Thankfully posting this outdated drivel on here is as close as you'll get to infuencing this meeting


Mr Multi? :lol: The name's Mike Roderick, Smeggers what's yours? Not that it makes any difference. And let's get it right, I wanted the spend, spend, spend, circus to stop long ago unlike the ones who sold their soul for a spin of the wheel.


I can confirm its Mike Roderick, who was on the trust for a while, we then never agreed :lol: but still Respected him.
But I will say this Mike, has only ever had one name on here and says it how he feels, also very very loyal City fan, stood by his morals never went to a City game when we were Red and returned when we went back to Blue and he's entitled to his opinion :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:31 pm

Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy


I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong but the debt was about 28 million surely?
In May 2014 the club stated Tan had put in over 150 million.

Don't see how it could only be £28 million ffs we owed Langston £24 million ,and Paul guy and mike hall about £9million didn't we
Why do people come on here posting shit amounts they no nothing about

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:59 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
The Voice of Reason wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
The Voice of Reason wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
ThomasC wrote:An apology, even if he shifts blame on others it would be accepted. Rebrand sucked the life out of the club, hence supporter apathy to what has been results wise, an ok season


a load of bollox-move on ffs


Agree.
Terrible and well documented mistakes were made. It's time to move on.


Add my agreement also.

ThomasC attitude is typical of what is holding this club back. If apologises are required then the supporters can start by saying sorry for the awful personal abuse directed at Tan at the meeting tomorrow.

The bigger picture is Cardiff City Football Club and always has been. It helps no one by bleating on about 'personal' hurt when the club's future is at risk. The rebrand is now a notable historical mistake which has been put right. Time to grow up and put the club first.


Are you people for real? Tan binned our identity, destroyed our fanbase, ruined the Club financially with terrible decisions and built a white elephant stand. In short, he made just about every blunder he could make while showing utter contempt for you and you still want to let bygones be bygones? If he's not gonna make the Club debt free as he duped you into believing he would, run him out of town and take the consequences. Don't you have any pride and dignity at all?


The Voice of Reason be fucked.Last time I looked Sam Hamman is the only one with something to smile about.Our fanbase is at a historical average,financial outlook is better than before he became involved.Its really easy to be scathing about the debt when your answer is about spending someone elses money.

Do us a favour Mr Multi,be Brave enough to express this garbage with your true ID-Thankfully posting this outdated drivel on here is as close as you'll get to infuencing this meeting


Mr Multi? :lol: The name's Mike Roderick, Smeggers what's yours? Not that it makes any difference. And let's get it right, I wanted the spend, spend, spend, circus to stop long ago unlike the ones who sold their soul for a spin of the wheel.


I can confirm its Mike Roderick, who was on the trust for a while, we then never agreed :lol: but still Respected him.
But I will say this Mike, has only ever had one name on here and says it how he feels, also very very loyal City fan, stood by his morals never went to a City game when we were Red and returned when we went back to Blue and he's entitled to his opinion :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluescarf: :bluebird:


Thank you Annis. I appreciate it. See you in France mate. :bluebird: :bluescarf: :thumbup:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:05 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy


I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong but the debt was about 28 million surely?
In May 2014 the club stated Tan had put in over 150 million.

Don't see how it could only be £28 million ffs we owed Langston £24 million ,and Paul guy and mike hall about £9million didn't we
Why do people come on here posting shit amounts they no nothing about


I said I'd hold my hands up if I was wrong, but if you want to throw some abuse at me you're very welcome my friend.
Very mature!

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:24 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy


I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong but the debt was about 28 million surely?
In May 2014 the club stated Tan had put in over 150 million.

Don't see how it could only be £28 million ffs we owed Langston £24 million ,and Paul guy and mike hall about £9million didn't we
Why do people come on here posting shit amounts they no nothing about

The debt was 63 million when tan took over all those creditors are now paid up

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:28 pm

Hope Tan is finally understanding. :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:05 pm

wez1927 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy


I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong but the debt was about 28 million surely?
In May 2014 the club stated Tan had put in over 150 million.

Don't see how it could only be £28 million ffs we owed Langston £24 million ,and Paul guy and mike hall about £9million didn't we
Why do people come on here posting shit amounts they no nothing about

The debt was 63 million when tan took over all those creditors are now paid up

Didn't steve say why do people come on here posting shit amounts they no nothing about :laughing6:
:bluescarf:

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:08 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Penyfai Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
jamie ccfc bluebirds wrote:If Tan pays the debt to equity, he's a prick
Turn us back to blue, he's a prick
Paid off the Langston debt still a prick
Saved us from administration still an even bigger prick!
What else do you want him to do? We need a truce once and for all for the good for our club, to look for a hopefully brighter future!
Yes the man has made a massive mistake in the past by the rebranding but he is trying to get back on the fans side now and looking to do the best for us fans and now the club! Let's just stop the Tan hating for now and wait and see what happens next! :bluebird:
your talking to much sense ,some of the anti club lot are never happy


Wow! I didn't realise that hating Tan made you "anti club" too.

Some may argue it's the Tan lovers who are "anti club" judging by the complete bollocks and circus he's made of his dictatorship sorry, reign, so far.

Dictatorship lol he's the owner just like all previous owners before him he's acted no different but he's bank rolled us more and already written off over 20 million pounds and paid all our creditors off already during his dictatorship as you put it


"Acted no different" to other owners before him.......have you been living on the moon for the last 5 years? :laughing5:
"Bank rolled us" you mean put us about 5 times more in debt than before he arrived.

5 times more debt lol come on he's added 100 more million to the debt was 63 million when he came so it's not 5 times so if he converts more debt to equity will you be happy


I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong but the debt was about 28 million surely?
In May 2014 the club stated Tan had put in over 150 million.

Don't see how it could only be £28 million ffs we owed Langston £24 million ,and Paul guy and mike hall about £9million didn't we
Why do people come on here posting shit amounts they no nothing about

The debt was 63 million when tan took over all those creditors are now paid up

Didn't steve say why do people come on here posting shit amounts they no nothing about :laughing6:
:bluescarf:

Good job it's the truth tho and he was on about other posters :lol: tell me what the debt was then ? I had an apology off Annis on another thread a couple of weeks back ,it was that amount and that's a fact

Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:22 pm

Just so you know,the ones shouting for Tan on here,loudly are the minority,because if they were right, We would not have lost 12,500 season ticket holders in less than than 2 years and barely 10,000 in actual attendance on Sat.
Our home crowds most week are now in the bottom 2 or 3 and our away support in the bottom 5 of the Championship and that really hurts to see :cry: :cry:

As to the Debt.

When Sam left the debt £30 mill with assets worth more than that,when the Riddler left it was about £63mill,then during the Tan reign of 6 years the debt got between £150mill to £160mill including destroyinag the Soul of our club and its fan base :o :shock:

But I believe it now could be as low £70-£80mill after 6 years of running our club, so in fact we are still worse off and have a fan base smashed to pieces,which what ever way Wez will turn it,the facts are there when you go to home and away games following City.


That's my last word on the matter.

The ground last Saturday 30 mins in to the game.
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Re: Updated ' CCST & Supporters Club to meet Vincent Tan '

Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Just so you know,the ones shouting for Tan on here,loudly are the minority,because if they were right, We would not have lost 12,500 season ticket holders in less than than 2 years and barely 10,000 in actual attendance on Sat.
Our home crowds most week are now in the bottom 2 or 3 and our away support in the bottom 5 of the Championship and that really hurts to see :cry: :cry:

As to the Debt.

When Sam left the debt £30 mill with assets worth more than that,when the Riddler left it was about £63mill,then during the Tan reign of 6 years the debt got between £150mill to £160mill including destroyinag the Soul of our club and its fan base :o :shock:

But I believe it now could be as low £70-£80mill after 6 years of running our club, so in fact we are still worse off and have a fan base smashed to pieces,which what ever way Wez will turn it,the facts are there when you go to home and away games following City.


That's my last word on the matter.

The ground last Saturday 30 mins in to the game.


But if the assets were worth more than the debt why did Sam leave?