' TO ALL THE GLORY HUNTERS/VERY TRUE WORDS '

I don't understand the fun in glory hunting? What's the point of it? The entire enjoyment of being a football supporter is being put through the mill and not knowing if victory is assured or not. I work on weekends now and have two kids but would love to be able to attend City games again because it's more than about the football. It's meeting up for a drink with your mates, putting on a bet before the game, and the great laughs you have during the matches with those sat around you. Without all that, it doesn't make any sense.

So I can't afford to go away games plus im a single dad of a young girl so won't leave her home alone. Am I a glory hunter??! I scream and shout for 90 mins from 116, to the ref, to opposite fan muppets, to slade to get Fabio on, 100% passion! We who stay loyal, we do it because we love ccfc, those that don't come, well, it's their loss. Can't wait for today's game guys!!!

Who mentioned away games?

Just supporting your team, like you say thats what matters

I get what your all saying but as a club we will always need fresh blood and I welcome anyone thinking of coming back or supporting us for the first time.I too have been a supporter since '73 when I was 15 but the club will not be able to count on my support for ever as advancing years brings its own problems.Remember the new support today may well be the stalwarts of 2056 when I will be long gone.

We def need fresh blood and new fans, you and I were new fans once,its those that desert as soon as we were relegated, that for me is not a fan of Cardiff City.

Been there since late 80's. First season without a season ticket in over 15 years.
I had real problems with the rebrand but am now getting the bug back. Cant wait for tomorrow.
City are at their strongest when the chips are down.
Ashamed of the red/proud of the blue!

I don't understand the fun in glory hunting? What's the point of it? The entire enjoyment of being a football supporter is being put through the mill and not knowing if victory is assured or not. I work on weekends now and have two kids but would love to be able to attend City games again because it's more than about the football. It's meeting up for a drink with your mates, putting on a bet before the game, and the great laughs you have during the matches with those sat around you. Without all that, it doesn't make any sense.

Steve, Spot on

I get what your all saying but as a club we will always need fresh blood and I welcome anyone thinking of coming back or supporting us for the first time.I too have been a supporter since '73 when I was 15 but the club will not be able to count on my support for ever as advancing years brings its own problems.Remember the new support today may well be the stalwarts of 2056 when I will be long gone.

We def need fresh blood and new fans, you and I were new fans once,its those that desert as soon as we were relegated, that for me is not a fan of Cardiff City.

That's better Annis, "those that desert as soon as we were relegated" see you can get it right.

That's what your initial and opening thread should have stated.

Unfortunately it's like shopping people follow trends and we only get the big club supporters masquerading as City supporters when we were in the PL. Always made me laugh as they never knew most of our players when they were on the pitch

Annis, it will be well less than the 9,600 next season as well. I'll be renewing and travelling to as many home and away games as I can next season as usual - but more and more are walking away and won't come back.

Respect to you Annis for next season, I know you'll be travelling from Santa Ponsa regularly to come to games

Great quote

Ned, I see how you travel and take time off work and have to stay over night,if theres no trains back, total Respect to you

I will be travelling from Santa Ponsa/ Mallorca every month at least,even if we are bottom of the Leagues

100% agree. I prefer 10,000 who want to be there. Fk the 15000 so called fans. Let's look forward to Wind, rain and 3 points today

Being a glory hunter must be boring when you miss the roller coaster ride of a die hard fan.

Glory hunter my Arse l

Glory hunter my Arse l

I'm no 216 fan!! It's important that the new blood coming on the terraces do not get bogged down in club politics but just solely supporting the team on the pitch. Let's all support the boys, and make some NOISE!!!!! Bring on 3pm kick off!!!

People saying they'd rather 5k die hards than 25k plastics are lying. I want a full stadium, at NP it was less noticeable when there weren't many there. At the CCS it feels souless and empty all the time, I hate it. I'l always buy a season ticket but I am giving games a miss more and more nowadays. If there was something on I would always go to the football and meet them later, now I don't do that.

The match day experience is absolutely woeful, I actually hate going down to that stadium sometimes the atmosphere is so poor. It's going to get worse next season too.

Sounds like alot of these posts are im number one cardiff fan no one else.

No sounds like to me a lot of these posts are from fans that actually care and attend games.
I understand that some peoples circumstances change, family, working, moving away etc, but I know a lot if people that simply cannot be arsed. These are the same people that will come flooding back to see the likes of aguero and Ozil if we get back the "big time".

Give me the 12,000 that attend over those glory hunters every day of the week!

What am i classed as then who is a pay and go customer. Loyalty works both ways and seeing im seen as a customer I will chose when to buy and taste the ccfc product.

What am i classed as then who is a pay and go customer. Loyalty works both ways and seeing im seen as a customer I will chose when to buy and taste the ccfc product.

If you dont attend 99% of home and away matches even if your dog has died you still get labelled a plastic on here mate!

People saying they'd rather 5k die hards than 25k plastics are lying. I want a full stadium, at NP it was less noticeable when there weren't many there. At the CCS it feels souless and empty all the time, I hate it. I'l always buy a season ticket but I am giving games a miss more and more nowadays. If there was something on I would always go to the football and meet them later, now I don't do that.

The match day experience is absolutely woeful, I actually hate going down to that stadium sometimes the atmosphere is so poor. It's going to get worse next season too.

Reading thats has cheered me right up Victor.

That infamous quote was not aimed at people who pick and choose their games depending on the success of the team.

The quote is aimed at supporters who attend the games and don't get behind the team, complaining, booing when results don't go their way.

We have plenty of so called die-hards who complain and boo at the games. You can't pin that on the newbies , plastics, glory hunters or whatever also you call them.

You are the fans Shanks was referring to not the fair weather fans. There's been a shit atmosphere in the ground long before the Premiership relegation and before Tan arrived.

The quotes out of date anyway. Football fans are not supporters anymore they are customers.

I wonder what Shanks would have thought of yesterday's walk out at Anfield? Would he have said the same? I doubt it. He'd probably turn in his grave at the kind of sums being asked for a hospitality box at Anfield.

It's a different world now. Loyalty works both ways and I don't see any loyalty from clubs to fans.

I'm 100% with you on the glory hunting Annis - I was quite vocal about the club's decision to sell 23k+ ST's in Premiership as I couldn't justify an ST due to work but struggled to get tickets on the day until second half of the season. However, I don't think you can stick all 13,000 that have chosen not to renew into the same pot. A number of friends & colleagues have been going to games for decades but have opted not to renew citing value for money, the rebrand & quality of football as issues.

However, in my opinion I feel that all this boils down to one simple problem: the way the club's being run. The rebrand is one thing (& it's easy to blame, as it's the visual representation of the club's mismanagement) but it's not the change from blue to red that's got me riled, it's the total lack of engagement with a) the fanbase & b) the community as a whole that I'm most dissapointed with. I'm not entirely certain their's a community engagement team at the club anymore but if there is I have to wonder what the hell they're doing!!...you never hear about them going to local schools, sports & social clubs & other groups to get the kids on side & involved with what is their local team.

This can also be reflected on Swansea's growth into our borderline catchment areas in their youth syystem: the kids don't want to play for Cardiff anymore & when the Jacks come sniffing for talent in parts of South Wales that we've traditionally drawn from they're happy enough to acceot their offer.

It's good to see some passion retained by the die hards but I see far too much apathy in the ground these days...I'm a PDA steward at the ground (big beard & piercings) & far too often I'm seeing people leave at half time, even at 0-0. It feels souless these days but the management clearly can't see that these people just don't feel a part of the club they grew up supporting anymore.

Shame

I'm 100% with you on the glory hunting Annis - I was quite vocal about the club's decision to sell 23k+ ST's in Premiership as I couldn't justify an ST due to work but struggled to get tickets on the day until second half of the season. However, I don't think you can stick all 13,000 that have chosen not to renew into the same pot. A number of friends & colleagues have been going to games for decades but have opted not to renew citing value for money, the rebrand & quality of football as issues.

However, in my opinion I feel that all this boils down to one simple problem: the way the club's being run. The rebrand is one thing (& it's easy to blame, as it's the visual representation of the club's mismanagement) but it's not the change from blue to red that's got me riled, it's the total lack of engagement with a) the fanbase & b) the community as a whole that I'm most dissapointed with. I'm not entirely certain their's a community engagement team at the club anymore but if there is I have to wonder what the hell they're doing!!...you never hear about them going to local schools, sports & social clubs & other groups to get the kids on side & involved with what is their local team.

This can also be reflected on Swansea's growth into our borderline catchment areas in their youth syystem: the kids don't want to play for Cardiff anymore & when the Jacks come sniffing for talent in parts of South Wales that we've traditionally drawn from they're happy enough to acceot their offer.

It's good to see some passion retained by the die hards but I see far too much apathy in the ground these days...I'm a PDA steward at the ground (big beard & piercings) & far too often I'm seeing people leave at half time, even at 0-0. It feels souless these days but the management clearly can't see that these people just don't feel a part of the club they grew up supporting anymore.

Shame

Tony, theres a lot of truth in what you say there.
If it had been Man United at home yesterday,money,weather,rebrand nothing would of stopped the stadium being full to capacity.
The diehards that are left are not being treated well and I am seeing them slowly drift away as well as our club has No care about us and I don't honestly think they are bothered at this moment in time as the wrong people are running it.

It's bullshit to say the club doesn't engAge with the community.

They are up my daughters school on a regular basis and we are 25 miles from Cardiff.

A guy I work with his 14 year old lad was deemed not good enough for the academy so he's gone to Swanseas academy. No sour grapes from him he said Cardiffs set up is far better, far more professional.