26th richest? Yes but quite skint in Jan window!

The Jacks are supposedly very well run and their chairman get loads of plaudits.

So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?

At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper.

Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there.

I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months.

What a truly bizarre post!

"So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?"

You do realise we have spent five years in the premier league, winning a major trophy, played in the Europa league, beaten Man Utd three times on the trot, have an equal record of wins to losses ratio against Arsenal, beaten Valencia 0-3 at the Mestalla Stadium, plus beaten all of the top teams on at least more than one occasion, sometimes at their own gaff! That's memories in fans lives that will never be forgotten for the rest of their lives! That's what we have to show for it!

"At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper."

Why should they be cheaper, if it reflects the local area in price? That's a hell of contradiction my friend!

"Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there."

Ermm we didn't, you did.

"I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months."

Think again, the damage was well and truly done well before Ollie came along!

Let me explain...

"?" is a question mark. Its purpose is to ask a question. ""So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? "

Fans don't get into football to make money but most owners do. The purpose of the question was to ask if one of the best run clubs, five successful seasons into the the highest ever TV rights can't sign anybody then what is the point of pawning the family silver to get into the premier league ?

This is a Cardiff forum, so there is a Cardiff tint on the post.

Yes I fully understood what you posted the first time, so no need to run it by me again. So let me point it out to you in more laymans terms seeing as you didn't grasp my original reply. Being in the premier league for a club like Swansea City is not about making money is it. It's about being the best you can be for as long as you can be. We are not, or never will be some global brand/corporation (call it what you like), so our time in the sun is one that fans of the club will cherish for the rest of their lives. We've been there done it savoured it and loved every minute. When it ends it ends, we haven't pawned silverware as we had none. If your going down that route, then you borrowed family silverware then spunked it up the wall for a miserable 9 months!

Quote (64Jack): "If your going down that route, then you borrowed family silverware then spunked it up the wall for a miserable 9 months!"

I think you need to look back at the catalyst for your club's Phoenix-like rise from the ashes before making daft statements like the one above, fella, even if provoked. The FACT remains that we haven't 'stitched' anyone up and currently (particularly after today's agreement) our creditors are, uhm, all in-house and not spread around our trusting community!

Agh! Here comes Sven, the moderator equivalent of Pike. Shut up you stupid boy!

The Jacks are supposedly very well run and their chairman get loads of plaudits.

So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?

At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper.

Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there.

I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months.

What a truly bizarre post!

"So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?"

You do realise we have spent five years in the premier league, winning a major trophy, played in the Europa league, beaten Man Utd three times on the trot, have an equal record of wins to losses ratio against Arsenal, beaten Valencia 0-3 at the Mestalla Stadium, plus beaten all of the top teams on at least more than one occasion, sometimes at their own gaff! That's memories in fans lives that will never be forgotten for the rest of their lives! That's what we have to show for it!

"At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper."

Why should they be cheaper, if it reflects the local area in price? That's a hell of contradiction my friend!

"Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there."

Ermm we didn't, you did.

"I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months."

Think again, the damage was well and truly done well before Ollie came along!

Any tiny little opportunity you get to say what you have done and we haven't, you can't get it off your chest any quicker!

Life moves on. Football moves on. You've been luckily spoilt with good times over the last five years whereas we haven't. We've taken that on the chin. Right now you're not doing great. So rather than brag about the past and slag off us, open your eyes and focus on what is happening right now. You're not as great as you've made out to be.

I'm not slagging you off at all? Why would i need to do that? But as a point of order, your basically agreeing with me!

Yes you are. Nothing was mentioned about your accomplishments, yet you couldn't wait to say it all at once.

f**k off back to your own forum you silly c**t.

The reason I mentioned our accomplishments was in response to a claim of "what have we got to show for our time in the premier league" I was merely pointing out that it's not about making money. It wasn't too rub your face in it. But seeing as you took it as such i'll take it as a bonus!

Crack on son. Hopefully see you later this year.

If it happens it happens. Love a derby me! Get a much better buzz turning you lot over than Man Utd! That's football, not making money!

I can't disagree with that, fella!

The Jacks are supposedly very well run and their chairman get loads of plaudits.

So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?

At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper.

Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there.

I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months.

What a truly bizarre post!

"So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?"

You do realise we have spent five years in the premier league, winning a major trophy, played in the Europa league, beaten Man Utd three times on the trot, have an equal record of wins to losses ratio against Arsenal, beaten Valencia 0-3 at the Mestalla Stadium, plus beaten all of the top teams on at least more than one occasion, sometimes at their own gaff! That's memories in fans lives that will never be forgotten for the rest of their lives! That's what we have to show for it!

"At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper."

Why should they be cheaper, if it reflects the local area in price? That's a hell of contradiction my friend!

"Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there."

Ermm we didn't, you did.

"I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months."

Think again, the damage was well and truly done well before Ollie came along!

Any tiny little opportunity you get to say what you have done and we haven't, you can't get it off your chest any quicker!

Life moves on. Football moves on. You've been luckily spoilt with good times over the last five years whereas we haven't. We've taken that on the chin. Right now you're not doing great. So rather than brag about the past and slag off us, open your eyes and focus on what is happening right now. You're not as great as you've made out to be.

I'm not slagging you off at all? Why would i need to do that? But as a point of order, your basically agreeing with me!

Yes you are. Nothing was mentioned about your accomplishments, yet you couldn't wait to say it all at once.

f**k off back to your own forum you silly c**t.

The reason I mentioned our accomplishments was in response to a claim of "what have we got to show for our time in the premier league" I was merely pointing out that it's not about making money. It wasn't too rub your face in it. But seeing as you took it as such i'll take it as a bonus!

Crack on son. Hopefully see you later this year.

If it happens it happens. Love a derby me! Get a much better buzz turning you lot over than Man Utd! That's football, not making money!

I can't disagree with that, fella!

But it's true Sven. For all the premier league is worth, or for any other league for that matter, there is nothing like the highs and lows of beating or losing to your rivals. Anyone who says differently is a liar.

The Jacks are supposedly very well run and their chairman get loads of plaudits.

So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?

At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper.

Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there.

I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months.

What a truly bizarre post!

"So at what point do you make money in the premier league if you are not a player or agent ? What do they have to show for their time (probably a few more seasons yet) a new training ground, what was that about 10 million?"

You do realise we have spent five years in the premier league, winning a major trophy, played in the Europa league, beaten Man Utd three times on the trot, have an equal record of wins to losses ratio against Arsenal, beaten Valencia 0-3 at the Mestalla Stadium, plus beaten all of the top teams on at least more than one occasion, sometimes at their own gaff! That's memories in fans lives that will never be forgotten for the rest of their lives! That's what we have to show for it!

"At least their season ticket prices reflect the local area in price, but it still could be cheaper."

Why should they be cheaper, if it reflects the local area in price? That's a hell of contradiction my friend!

"Why do clubs run up huge debts to get into the premier league, when it doesn't get you any money in real terms when you get there."

Ermm we didn't, you did.

"I think we must have made a little profit when we were there then squandered by Ole in a mad 8 months."

Think again, the damage was well and truly done well before Ollie came along!

Any tiny little opportunity you get to say what you have done and we haven't, you can't get it off your chest any quicker!

Life moves on. Football moves on. You've been luckily spoilt with good times over the last five years whereas we haven't. We've taken that on the chin. Right now you're not doing great. So rather than brag about the past and slag off us, open your eyes and focus on what is happening right now. You're not as great as you've made out to be.

I'm not slagging you off at all? Why would i need to do that? But as a point of order, your basically agreeing with me!

Yes you are. Nothing was mentioned about your accomplishments, yet you couldn't wait to say it all at once.

f**k off back to your own forum you silly c**t.

The reason I mentioned our accomplishments was in response to a claim of "what have we got to show for our time in the premier league" I was merely pointing out that it's not about making money. It wasn't too rub your face in it. But seeing as you took it as such i'll take it as a bonus!

Crack on son. Hopefully see you later this year.

If it happens it happens. Love a derby me! Get a much better buzz turning you lot over than Man Utd! That's football, not making money!

I can't disagree with that, fella!

But it's true Sven. For all the premier league is worth, or for any other league for that matter, there is nothing like the highs and lows of beating or losing to your rivals. Anyone who says differently is a liar.

As I said, I wholly agree!