FAO all the Religion / Refugee / Political Gurus on here

Condescending tw*t

Condescending for trying to engage in conversation with people about things they appear to believe strongly in, and for asking questions in order to understand their points of view? You're right a much better approach surely is just to dismiss someone with internet name calling.

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

How often do you watch All Jazeera, out of interest of course

Never...

I answered your question now do you want to answer mine or just post another silly response.

So the information on your profile is incorrect then?

I didn't even know I had a profile on here and if I had created one it certainly wouldn't say anything about how much I watch or don't watch Aljazeera or whatever it is called?

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

Well I'm not surprised to hear you are getting bored writing about it to be honest, as I am getting bored reading about it. Which in the main is my point.

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

What is your opinion on British born Muslims?

As long as they aren't preaching hate against Britain then they are British and following British way of life havnt got a lot of problem ,it the radicals that are the problem ,I know a few British Muslims and they are also worried with the migrants issue as they are trying to change the British way of life and they think that it's bad for Britain to allow mass emigration from these countries

On the other thread you say that all followers of Mohammad are rapists and murderers though? Yet you do understand that covers ALL Muslime right? And therefore goes for ALL British born muslims too?

Why are you suggesting that these migrants are muslim radicals? You do undertsand they are here because they are escaping the muslim radicals dont you?

twisting words again I said Muslims who believe his teaching of rape and murder of non Muslims did I not ?
And I believe a lot are not escaping wars as they could of claimed asylum in the countless safe countries they ahave travelled through

No you didnt, you said the ones that believe in the teachings of Mohammed. So ALL Muslims then?

You do know that the teachings of the Christian God are similar yes? However most have the intelligence to not follow that oart of the bible, just like Muslims have the intelligence not to follow that part of the Quran. The KKK choose to take it to the extremes, ISIS decide to take it to the extremes, the Westboro Baptist Church decide to take it to the extremes.... However you only seem to eant to tar one religion based on their tiny % of mentalists and decide that the others are ok.

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

How often do you watch All Jazeera, out of interest of course

Never...

I answered your question now do you want to answer mine or just post another silly response.

So the information on your profile is incorrect then?

Have you altered that piece of information on your profile yet?

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

What is your opinion on British born Muslims?

As long as they aren't preaching hate against Britain then they are British and following British way of life havnt got a lot of problem ,it the radicals that are the problem ,I know a few British Muslims and they are also worried with the migrants issue as they are trying to change the British way of life and they think that it's bad for Britain to allow mass emigration from these countries

On the other thread you say that all followers of Mohammad are rapists and murderers though? Yet you do understand that covers ALL Muslime right? And therefore goes for ALL British born muslims too?

Why are you suggesting that these migrants are muslim radicals? You do undertsand they are here because they are escaping the muslim radicals dont you?

twisting words again I said Muslims who believe his teaching of rape and murder of non Muslims did I not ?
And I believe a lot are not escaping wars as they could of claimed asylum in the countless safe countries they ahave travelled through

No you didnt, you said the ones that believe in the teachings of Mohammed. So ALL Muslims then?

You do know that the teachings of the Christian God are similar yes? However most have the intelligence to not follow that oart of the bible, just like Muslims have the intelligence not to follow that part of the Quran. The KKK choose to take it to the extremes, ISIS decide to take it to the extremes, the Westboro Baptist Church decide to take it to the extremes.... However you only seem to eant to tar one religion based on their tiny % of mentalists and decide that the others are ok.

Read my posts properly idiot what did I write on two different threads after Muhammad ?

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

I hate Islam, not all Muslims are bad and I don't mind immigrants at all, my best friend is an immigrant as were three of my grandparents (Ireland). I agree there are some muppets on here who go on as if all Muslims are evil and there have been some posts which have crossed the line but don't try and censor us, we have an opinion and we will let it be heard.

You go on as if you will be missed if you stop posting here, 240 posts in nearly five years says this forum will survive without you. If you don't agree with our views why don't you debate it? This is a messageboard after all.

Read my posts properly idiot what did I write on two different threads after Muhammad ?

You seemed to be suggesting all Muslims were rapists which is why you didnt want any Muslim migrants here. I pushed you to clarift that extremely racist comment and you said, and I quote....

I said followers of the prophet Muhammad ! Do some research if I was you on Muhammad and his beliefs ,maybe your realise why normal British people from all religions are worried

Which of course means ALL Muslims.

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

I hate Islam, not all Muslims are bad and I don't mind immigrants at all, my best friend is an immigrant as were three of my grandparents (Ireland). I agree there are some muppets on here who go on as if all Muslims are evil and there have been some posts which have crossed the line but don't try and censor us, we have an opinion and we will let it be heard.

You go on as if you will be missed if you stop posting here, 240 posts in nearly five years says this forum will survive without you. If you don't agree with our views why don't you debate it? This is a messageboard after all.

He has a point though old timer. Free speech is great, but this stuff is bordering on hate speech, which is illegal.

If there was an ISIS supporter on here suggesting that British people are rapists and murderers, cowards and scum. They would be banned. disagree with immigration, religion whatever, its fine. But castigating a certain type of people as heinous criminals due to their ethnic origin is completely beyond the pale, and cannot be hidden behind free speech, its pure racism and xenophobia.

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

I hate Islam, not all Muslims are bad and I don't mind immigrants at all, my best friend is an immigrant as were three of my grandparents (Ireland). I agree there are some muppets on here who go on as if all Muslims are evil and there have been some posts which have crossed the line but don't try and censor us, we have an opinion and we will let it be heard.

You go on as if you will be missed if you stop posting here, 240 posts in nearly five years says this forum will survive without you. If you don't agree with our views why don't you debate it? This is a messageboard after all.

I actually said quite clearly that I won't be missed on here and quite rightly so as you suggest.I never post on here because no offence - not directed at you personally - but it seems to be full of keyboard warriors who don't get out of the house much and want to challenge eachother for most posts of the year award. What I have also said quite clearly is that I'll be the one who misses using the forum for city info and chat which I find a shame being put off when I am sure there are plenty of other website catering specifically for people to post to their heart's content about religion / immigration / politics, from whatever angle you see these from.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

We will have to agree to disagree there, I've been shocked by the racism coming from his keyboard tonight. All muslims being rapists and murderers took the biscuit. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but id like to think he would have had enough about him to realise that view is extremely offensive not to mention as factually inaccurate as you can get. Thrn to call me a terrorist sympathiser because I think migrants aren't autimatically criminals took it to another level.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

We will have to agree to disagree there, I've been shocked by the racism coming from his keyboard tonight. All muslims being rapists and murderers took the biscuit. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but id like to think he would have had enough about him to realise that view is extremely offensive not to mention as factually inaccurate as you can get. Thrn to call me a terrorist sympathiser because I think migrants aren't autimatically criminals took it to another level.

Twisting words again roathy ,do you comment on everything about Cardiff city hmmmmmm

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

We will have to agree to disagree there, I've been shocked by the racism coming from his keyboard tonight. All muslims being rapists and murderers took the biscuit. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but id like to think he would have had enough about him to realise that view is extremely offensive not to mention as factually inaccurate as you can get. Thrn to call me a terrorist sympathiser because I think migrants aren't autimatically criminals took it to another level.

Twisting words again roathy ,do you comment on everything about Cardiff city hmmmmmm

Yes, however these threads have nothing to do with cardiff city other than showing the level of idiots we have following the club.

So you are now happy to admit that these migrants are not murderers, rapists and terrorists then?

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

Agree wholly. Anyone who shows any sympathy for refugees on here gets instantly shot down. Also some of the comments I've seen on Muslims and refugees on here are absolutely appalling, some to the level saying they should be killed, I'm amazed the police haven't gotten involved as surely posting online that a group of people be killed is a form of hate speech?

So police should get involved for people sounding off on a football forum whilst Muslim radicals are allowed to preach their hate on our streets?

Attached are some posts I have come across which if were spoken words in a public place would most likely get an individual arrested for hate speech

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If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

Agree wholly. Anyone who shows any sympathy for refugees on here gets instantly shot down. Also some of the comments I've seen on Muslims and refugees on here are absolutely appalling, some to the level saying they should be killed, I'm amazed the police haven't gotten involved as surely posting online that a group of people be killed is a form of hate speech?

So police should get involved for people sounding off on a football forum whilst Muslim radicals are allowed to preach their hate on our streets?

Attached are some posts I have come across which if were spoken words in a public place would most likely get an individual arrested for hate speech

I very much doubt it ,I don't see many Islamic hate preachers arrestted do you ?

Christ, some of those comments genuinelly could be from Nazi occupied Germany from the 40's.

What a terrifying view on the world some have.

I would take everything Brighton says with a pinch of salt, a big one at that. He once claimed he joined a Christian crusade and was heading out to Syria to fight ISIS.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

We will have to agree to disagree there, I've been shocked by the racism coming from his keyboard tonight. All muslims being rapists and murderers took the biscuit. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but id like to think he would have had enough about him to realise that view is extremely offensive not to mention as factually inaccurate as you can get. Thrn to call me a terrorist sympathiser because I think migrants aren't autimatically criminals took it to another level.

Twisting words again roathy ,do you comment on everything about Cardiff city hmmmmmm

Yes, however these threads have nothing to do with cardiff city other than showing the level of idiots we have following the club.

So you are now happy to admit that these migrants are not murderers, rapists and terrorists then?

Which migrants ????? Are you 100% saying they are not ? They could be that is the worrying thing that you and your band of merry lefty do gooders are not getting your head around you should be worried , people like you will be the downful of our way of life !

I very much doubt it ,I don't see many Islamic hate preachers arrestted do you ?

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/uk-h ... y-arrested

I very much doubt it ,I don't see many Islamic hate preachers arrestted do you ?

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/uk-h ... y-arrested

After how many years of tv interviews and speeches on our street hmmmmmmmmm

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

We will have to agree to disagree there, I've been shocked by the racism coming from his keyboard tonight. All muslims being rapists and murderers took the biscuit. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but id like to think he would have had enough about him to realise that view is extremely offensive not to mention as factually inaccurate as you can get. Thrn to call me a terrorist sympathiser because I think migrants aren't autimatically criminals took it to another level.

Twisting words again roathy ,do you comment on everything about Cardiff city hmmmmmm

Yes, however these threads have nothing to do with cardiff city other than showing the level of idiots we have following the club.

So you are now happy to admit that these migrants are not murderers, rapists and terrorists then?

Which migrants ????? Are you 100% saying they are not ? They could be that is the worrying thing that you and your band of merry lefty do gooders are not getting your head around you should be worried , people like you will be the downful of our way of life !

What?

So could your next door neighbours, workmates, car dealers and tesco workers. Should we treat them all as such and get rid of everybody from the UK and just leave you there? Just in case like.

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I very much doubt it ,I don't see many Islamic hate preachers arrestted do you ?

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/uk-h ... y-arrested

After how many years of tv interviews and speeches on our street hmmmmmmmmm

Not many after the law was ammended in April 2015 I wouldnt have thought.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

We will have to agree to disagree there, I've been shocked by the racism coming from his keyboard tonight. All muslims being rapists and murderers took the biscuit. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but id like to think he would have had enough about him to realise that view is extremely offensive not to mention as factually inaccurate as you can get. Thrn to call me a terrorist sympathiser because I think migrants aren't autimatically criminals took it to another level.

Twisting words again roathy ,do you comment on everything about Cardiff city hmmmmmm

Yes, however these threads have nothing to do with cardiff city other than showing the level of idiots we have following the club.

So you are now happy to admit that these migrants are not murderers, rapists and terrorists then?

Which migrants ????? Are you 100% saying they are not ? They could be that is the worrying thing that you and your band of merry lefty do gooders are not getting your head around you should be worried , people like you will be the downful of our way of life !

What?

So could your next door neighbours, workmates, car dealers and tesco workers. Should we treat them all as such and get rid of everybody from the UK and just leave you there? Just in case like.

Trying to twist words again roathy ,you said "these migrants" which ones do you mean ? It's not hard is it

I would take everything Brighton says with a pinch of salt, a big one at that. He once claimed he joined a Christian crusade and was heading out to Syria to fight ISIS.

I agree with you but he has posted some vile and weird sh*t before and I question whether he realises what he is posting sometimes. But he seems to go about it unchallenged by the powers that be on here, yet if it was a muslim saying that stuff about non-muslims I have no doubt he or she would be onto in a shot. Makes it seem like it's ok for weird hate shit to be talked about if it's directed to some but not to others.

Splottlight, I alluded to that in my post. Some stuff has gone too far, certain posters are bordering on being retarded so I cut them some slack.

Yes you did in fairness. And you may well be right unfortunately, im just realising that now after a chat with angelis and wez

Wez is a good chap, less said about Angelis the better.

We will have to agree to disagree there, I've been shocked by the racism coming from his keyboard tonight. All muslims being rapists and murderers took the biscuit. He may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but id like to think he would have had enough about him to realise that view is extremely offensive not to mention as factually inaccurate as you can get. Thrn to call me a terrorist sympathiser because I think migrants aren't autimatically criminals took it to another level.

Twisting words again roathy ,do you comment on everything about Cardiff city hmmmmmm

Yes, however these threads have nothing to do with cardiff city other than showing the level of idiots we have following the club.

So you are now happy to admit that these migrants are not murderers, rapists and terrorists then?

Which migrants ????? Are you 100% saying they are not ? They could be that is the worrying thing that you and your band of merry lefty do gooders are not getting your head around you should be worried , people like you will be the downful of our way of life !

What?

So could your next door neighbours, workmates, car dealers and tesco workers. Should we treat them all as such and get rid of everybody from the UK and just leave you there? Just in case like.

Trying to twist words again roathy ,you said "these migrants" which ones do you mean ? It's not hard is it

Come on now wes, the ones that have arrived in the UK that you are so against. The ones that whom you have alluded are terrorists. Dont backtrack and act all dumb on your own opinion now.

I would take everything Brighton says with a pinch of salt, a big one at that. He once claimed he joined a Christian crusade and was heading out to Syria to fight ISIS.

I agree with you but he has posted some vile and weird sh*t before and I question whether he realises what he is posting sometimes. But he seems to go about it unchallenged by the powers that be on here, yet if it was a muslim saying that stuff about non-muslims I have no doubt he or she would be onto in a shot. Makes it seem like it's ok for weird hate shit to be talked about if it's directed to some but not to others.

Sounds oretty spot on to me. The fact they are still posting is sickening.