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Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:32 pm

Double G wrote:shame on the fans for leaving when the club needs them most. and thats the club not a owner or manager.
ill be there thick and thin. good times will allways feel better whwn you have been through the bad

Stimes


Shame on the club taking fans for granted. Thought we were cash cows!!!!

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:40 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:The football served up by Slade is dire. Rebrand upset thousands and ripped heart out of club. Cost of going is expensive (tickets are better priced this season)-I took my youngest on Saturday with my other 2 and at half time he wanted sweets. 2.80 for a bag of maltesers. Rip off.

The only way forward is to get rid of Slade and bring in a manager that wants to play attacking football. Cut season ticket prices to £200 for adults, £50 for kids and £100 OAPs/students. Match day tickets should be a tenner. Food and drink should be reasonably priced. Use upper ninian stand to give out free tickets to schools across South Wales. Get rid of Wayne Nash and sort stewarding out to recreate a half decent atmosphere.
with you all the way cant understand why that stand is closed free tickets this year future support next year and the year after ect

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:45 pm

I try and go as often as possible Annis, as you know. Use 95% of my holiday at work to book off City matches. Only reason I don't go every week is due to finance and work.

If I could go every week then I would.

I am going on Sunday.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:47 pm

Get Gareth(wilts)on the board of directors now! However I will be there come what may. I agree last season was terrible and some games this season but I will continue to support the club whoever is there. As some have said it's in my blood has been since 1963.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:14 pm

Unemployed last 2 yrs :bluebird

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:49 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:The football served up by Slade is dire. Rebrand upset thousands and ripped heart out of club. Cost of going is expensive (tickets are better priced this season)-I took my youngest on Saturday with my other 2 and at half time he wanted sweets. 2.80 for a bag of maltesers. Rip off.

The only way forward is to get rid of Slade and bring in a manager that wants to play attacking football. Cut season ticket prices to £200 for adults, £50 for kids and £100 OAPs/students. Match day tickets should be a tenner. Food and drink should be reasonably priced. Use upper ninian stand to give out free tickets to schools across South Wales. Get rid of Wayne Nash and sort stewarding out to recreate a half decent atmosphere.


Totally Agree with all of this

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:30 pm

I wore red, my team ccfc wire red, I supported my team. If they wire orange I would wear orange, for they are my team
What pissed me off was the way older fans abused Vincent Tan followed by the media
This man saved our club from going into administration irrespective of his motives. Fans supporting Malky thru thick and thin, he could have been a paedophile and they would still support him. He abused my trust in him, it was sickening what he did buying massively inflated egotistical players on Tans money, our money. I stand up for ccfc, and I defend myself against any other fan that stared at me for wearing red at that time.
thoae same fans took Tans money, his.money that helped malky get us into the premiership. now?? Well now I just come and scream for my beloved Cardiff city, and I really love the blue. The stewards in 116 are idiotic andn pick on the youngsters for chanting and standing up. No matter what, I will still come to watch my team. Please guys, let the past REBRAND thing go, stay in the present and support the team out there. Next year, reduces prices please, keep it real.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:06 pm

Annis I've been going since 1968 hardly missed a game in the 70's and 80's, was a regular in the 90's and a season ticket holder 2000-2015. This year I've been to 1 game because last year in nearly 50 years of attending it was like going to the dentist and having all your teeth filled for 90 mins. You never fall out of love for the city,but boredom at my age comes with negative tactics and an owner who can't wait to offload once he's ripped the very soul out of the club. I can honestly say whilst we have the current management and board structure at the club you couldn't pay me to go!

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:07 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Might be worth changing your user name then

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:08 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Might be worth changing your user name then

:lol:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:21 pm

It's the negativity of many fans, the constant moaning and whinging (encouraged by the likes of Steve Tucker) that depress me most and tempts me to just give up. Some fans have been moaning and bitching almost incessantly for so long I think they just don't know how to stop. It's this that depresses the atmosphere rather than stewards or style of play etc. Even when the style of footie has dramatically improved (as it has over the last month or so) the moaning has continued. We have become, as a group, terrible fans. I hate us. It didn't used to be like this, and we need to snap out of it, as we are doing a great job of dragging the club even further down than it needs to be.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:24 pm

It's just the general malaise that keeping the fans away now, just bog standard, turgid performances every week. Exciting and more importantly winning football will bring the fans back in their droves. Prices are decent enough, about par for the division and we have our colours and badge back. Just hope the club have learnt lessons on how to manage our fans and give them a bit of leeway to get an atmosphere back. I still have a ST and will prob renew, but I only attend a fraction of home games now, as for the experience down there, it doesn't justify a 6 hour round trip :thumbup:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:08 am

Fell out of love with the stress and being constantly pissed off with the way things were being handled. Found a new passion following NFL full time, less stress, more fun, and will now see more of the world going to the US a few times a year.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:25 am

blue lagoon wrote:
Double G wrote:shame on the fans for leaving when the club needs them most. and thats the club not a owner or manager.
ill be there thick and thin. good times will allways feel better whwn you have been through the bad

Stimes


Shame on the club taking fans for granted. Thought we were cash cows!!!!


every club in the uk do it. Germany has the right idea :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:48 am

I have been supporting City since the very early 70's and will continue to do so who ever the Manager is and whoever pulls on a Bluebirds shirt. People give lots of reasons why they no longer watch the City and for anyone who can't afford it because they have a low income or may be out of work they have my total sympathy and understanding.

However some of the excuses are pathetic, fans say the football is boring and turgid which is far from true I think generally the football this season has been much better than last season and we have a pretty good home record and if it wasn't for the points we threw away in the two recent games when we were 2-0 up we would also be higher up the table.

Some fans say the manager is poor and tactically inept but we have had much worse managers than Russel Slade and I honestly believe if he hadn't been a Vincent Tan appointment there wouldn't be half the abuse and the Slade out campaign that we see from many fans

I think stewarding is a definite issue and that has made some fans give up and walk away pissed off with the draconian tactics of the Stewards and has I have said previously Wayne Nash need to take a long hard look at himself. However there is always the option to move to the Canton where you are allowed to stand and the stewarding is a lot less heavy handed.

Yes the re brand pissed people off and I personally hated Red and just continued to waer Blue through the whole sorry episode and if our colours were changed tomorrow to pink with yellow spots I would continue to wear Blue and support my Club Cardiff City FC.

So to me none of those excuses really wash because my question to all those fans who have walked away for all the different excuses mentioned is................. if by some miracle City got though to another FA Cup Final this year would you all expect a ticket??????????????? :bluescarf: :bluebird: :old:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:47 am

blueheaven wrote:I have been supporting City since the very early 70's and will continue to do so who ever the Manager is and whoever pulls on a Bluebirds shirt. People give lots of reasons why they no longer watch the City and for anyone who can't afford it because they have a low income or may be out of work they have my total sympathy and understanding.

However some of the excuses are pathetic, fans say the football is boring and turgid which is far from true I think generally the football this season has been much better than last season and we have a pretty good home record and if it wasn't for the points we threw away in the two recent games when we were 2-0 up we would also be higher up the table.

Some fans say the manager is poor and tactically inept but we have had much worse managers than Russel Slade and I honestly believe if he hadn't been a Vincent Tan appointment there wouldn't be half the abuse and the Slade out campaign that we see from many fans

I think stewarding is a definite issue and that has made some fans give up and walk away pissed off with the draconian tactics of the Stewards and has I have said previously Wayne Nash need to take a long hard look at himself. However there is always the option to move to the Canton where you are allowed to stand and the stewarding is a lot less heavy handed.

Yes the re brand pissed people off and I personally hated Red and just continued to waer Blue through the whole sorry episode and if our colours were changed tomorrow to pink with yellow spots I would continue to wear Blue and support my Club Cardiff City FC.

So to me none of those excuses really wash because my question to all those fans who have walked away for all the different excuses mentioned is................. if by some miracle City got though to another FA Cup Final this year would you all expect a ticket??????????????? :bluescarf: :bluebird: :old:



No I wouldn't, we would lose and still play crap football, oh sorry try and play :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:06 am

I still enjoy going to watch the City. Enjoyed Saturday. No football club is perfect. If people don't want to go, then fair enough. New fans always take their place. Nothing new under the sun.

The atmosphere at the games is nothing like as negative as on this board. People like Steve Tucker, who masquerade as 'journalists', also seem to delight in slagging the City off. Again, that's fair enough. Disappointing, though, that so many people seem to enjoy spreading negativity.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:18 am

llangainbluebird wrote:I still enjoy going to watch the City. Enjoyed Saturday. No football club is perfect. If people don't want to go, then fair enough. New fans always take their place. Nothing new under the sun.

The atmosphere at the games is nothing like as negative as on this board. People like Steve Tucker, who masquerade as 'journalists', also seem to delight in slagging the City off. Again, that's fair enough. Disappointing, though, that so many people seem to enjoy spreading negativity.



Think it's just frustration and most people want to have a great time when they go down there, which is not happening at the moment.

Honest opinion by you," if people don't want to go then it's up to them", well said.

It's just surprising that so many who have followed City for years have left as well. Most people only want good for the club, including me and even if they don't go it's always great to hear people bringing the club up in conversation rather than the big PL clubs. :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:32 am

Bluebird For Life wrote:all of the reasons already mentioned plus the way the club has chucked our money down the drain by signing players that were on massive wages and then giving them away for nothing in many cases. It shows a total lack of empathy with the fact that us mere mortals have to work hard to earn a fraction of the money that the people involved in football nowadays take for granted. When I see the fruits of my efforts paid in to the likes of KJs bank account every week for so little effort in return, it makes me angry, and I made a conscious decision that I wasn't going to contribute to it anymore after going since 1970. I did relent and go to the Fulham game and was bored stupid so haven't bothered since and am unlikely to in the near future.

Need to change your forum name then don't you

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:24 am

I still go but came very close to packing it in after the Scarfegate game.

So if I was to pack it in then I would say something familiar to that game will do the trick. I am still annoyed at how the fan base gave in to the rebrand. Certainly not the type of supporters I grew up with. That is just it though isn't it...a different type of "supporter" these days who want to support a successful team instead of supporting their roots.

I feel more at home with the club these days than over the last few seasons. The supporters that get behind the team today are the ones that deserve to have premiership football. However how many of us genuine supporters want it after the abortion we had to suffer under Tans rebrand?

Personally I feel we will see quite a few return when Tan goes. The history is just too much for some.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:59 am

Forever Blue wrote:Cardiff City fans: Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?


Legacy of the rebrand
Unattractive football
Russell Slade
Vincent Tan
Other

Should City give Free tickets out to under 16's?

The reason for yet another post on the stay away fans, is because the media have done a big thing on it today, City are discussing season tickets for next season and the crowds have not improved at all this season, in fact got worse.


Other.

For me i find a trip to the football these days bores me. Pre match drinks is always welcome but i find this is then spoilt by the 90 minutes of football. No atmosphere in the ground, and very little to shout about on the pitch either.

Similarly, these days i don't bother much with away matches. The atmosphere of a RAMS away day just isn't there anymore so instead of spending my money on trips i'm happier to stay at home doing other things.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:44 am

Because the Club has lost its Soul, and the fans no longer can find an identity with the Club. But to be honest football in general has lost its soul. It was a sport of the working class, you could escape the day to day life of work with a de stress day at the footy with your mates. But greed, money and as some would say progress has ruined that experience. Now you need work to de stress yourself from the experience of going to a game run by SS storm trooping Stewards who are backed up by CCTV.
Football for the working class is no longer there and it's driving the proper fans away in droves. Vinny Tan divided the fan base that some said at the time would take a generation to heal the divide that it caused.
The last home game we had the second lowest attendance in the Championship and that says it all. Vinny Tan, New Stadium, Modern Football = no passion for most now and that covers many still going out of habit as well.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:46 am

In the main, OTHER-both my adult sons play for the same football team. They play on Sat afternoons, I go and watch them and have a chat and a few pints before/after the game. I would expect there are quite a few Dads in the same position as me. Kids before Cardiff, without a doubt every time!

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:55 am

Forever Blue wrote:
placid-casual wrote:Annis I just can't get up the energy to bother I've been to 2 home games and 1 away all season I look at the fixture list and bar Bristol city and maybe wolves away will not bother.
Even when we were in div 2 it was great (old div 4) been watching city solidly since 1976 the club has lost its whole identity and it doesn't feel like Cardiff city anymore, I have lots of respect for all city fans but we need a new manager maybe some decent signings and things might look up. We need some direction or it will get worse in the coming seasons
Sad really but there you are. :bluebird:


I understand totally where your coming from.

A City fan today said to me, that he supported us through all the real bad times,yet when the good times arrived the club not only forgot their loyal fans they just continued to push and push them away during the last 4 years and then in the end you just say enough is enough, you loose interest and then get out of the habit of going.



Yeah, vincent tan spoke about us fans like we were worthless. Easily Replaceable statistics, well he's eating his words now.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:22 pm

I gave up my season ticket over the rebrand.
Since then, my family has increased, and going to games is more difficult now, although my oldest daughter has started to come with me to games when I do go :bluescarf:

Also, the price. A ticket on the day for the Forest game last week cost me £26 with booking fees. The cost of football in general in this country is terrible

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:28 pm

You can't really say it's anything to do with the rebrand that's just an excuse as 28000 turned up when we were playing in red! Fans got what they wanted we are in blue now move on.

However I think the reasons are we are playing boring football, have a boring manager with no investment and seemingly going nowhere.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:03 pm

There are two distinct camps

The glory supporters that all clubs have, they'll be back as soon as we get the feel of a winning team

The old school that dislike what we have become, not sure what we do with those as we can't go back. Standing, changing ends, I doubt any of these will get the old feel back. Football has been socially cleansed and thats just the way it is.

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:42 pm

Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay.... I have to move out of family stand next season....will I pay the expected £800 for me and my son....simple answer is no.... :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:15 pm

Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay.... I have to move out of family stand next season....will I pay the expected £800 for me and my son....simple answer is no.... :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff fans:Why are you not attending Bluebirds' games?

Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:57 pm

Well not all fans can be die hard because when I was going more regularly in late 80s early 90s there was often less than 3k there.

Not many clubs would get a lot more than us if they had our history.
End of the day people do stop going for a number of reasons and we probably lost a few thousand glory hunter, that is a fact, but we also lost a lot because of the rebrand, boring football, no ambition, being tarted like shit, no atmosphere...

Problem is, unlike the late 80s when there was an atmosphere, if you stopped going you would always come back, now you can do a lot more with your time, so stop going and it is harder to get the bug back, not least because there is no atmosphere anymore

Years ago if we lost there was still a buzz