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Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:02 am

carlccfc wrote:If you get your wish and Vincent Tan sacks Slade, who do you think Tan will replace him with ?

That is not, who you want or who you would like Tan to replace him with ?

Tan is making cut backs, he is selling and cutting the wage bill, that includes the level of manager we employ as well.

Slade is doing what is expected of him by Tan, he is selling players, cutting the wage bill and we are competing in the league.

I didn't think, and I dont think many others did either, that we would be above mid table this season under Slade but he is doing better than most of us thought we would so with that in mind and remember who chooses the manager and the pay he will get and the constraints he will work under, don't you think we would be jumping from the fire pan into the fire?

I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.



Tan, would only pick in my opinion another yes man/puppet, so we would be no better off.

Tan, Could not handle a man who wants to do it their way and won't get a manager who wants to spend again as just look what happened with Ole.
A strong/tough/no nonsence manager would also not suit Tan :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:05 am

Another yes man or not at least we wouldn't have to put up with the shit Slade spouts in press conferences and interviews

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:05 am

polo wrote:
Mr Shed wrote:I think there is a lot of work still to do with slade here. We need to clear a lot of high earners off the books completely before we can move on. Loans are good for the short term, but these players need to not come back.
we know that we are sailing very close to the FFP limits and that is priority for the club to sort out at the mo, so a severance for Slade as well as paying a high earning manager cant happen.
Why people keep calling for Bellamy I have no idea, he has no experience, he is hot headed, he is a liverpool supporter and only thefact that is close to his home would be the only reason he would take the job, i see him in the same light as roy keane, he may be ok one day but to take this job on as his first would be a bad move for both parties.
We will not achieve a great deal over the next few years while this mess gets sorted, so let's get back to supporting the club.

I enjoyed most of the game today, I spent the first half in my seat in 116 , then took a trip over to the canton stand second half for some atmosphere, I do miss the singing. I think Ralls and Watt both had an off game today, had they been on form, we'd have taken all 3 points easy today. Ah well, on to Blackburn.



What does it matter what team a manager supports?!? Do you think SirAlex grew up supporting Man U?


it doesn't matter, but why do people keep wanting him to manage this club, what is the connection? If it's because he used to play for us, then why not Toshack? Hes a former player with a wealth of experience. Kavanagh, another former player with management experience and still loves the club. The last thing I saw Bellamy do on the pitch was call the supporters wankers and telling us to F off!
Sorry, I just don't see the attraction.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:09 am

Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
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Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:11 am

polo wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
polo wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.


I agree with polo on this. With the squad of players we had at the start of season we are easily a top 6 side with the right manager in charge. Also the right manager would have signed better players than the shit pointless signing slade has made.

To answer carls question i would say craig bellamy. If he wasnt up for working under tan plenty of up and coming out there with modern footballing philosophies. Someone like gary rowett for example. Look what he would do with this squad of players.


He's working wonders with a very limited squad and budget at Birmingham.


Exactly if slade was at birmingham with their squad they would be in the bottom 3 now

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:11 am

has to go :sladeout:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:12 am

BlueMagic wrote:
polo wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
polo wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.


I agree with polo on this. With the squad of players we had at the start of season we are easily a top 6 side with the right manager in charge. Also the right manager would have signed better players than the shit pointless signing slade has made.

To answer carls question i would say craig bellamy. If he wasnt up for working under tan plenty of up and coming out there with modern footballing philosophies. Someone like gary rowett for example. Look what he would do with this squad of players.


He's working wonders with a very limited squad and budget at Birmingham.


Exactly if slade was at birmingham with their squad they would be in the bottom 3 now


Agreed

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:22 am

Bellamy/Trollope/Dutch Ray for me. I would welcome back DJ into that mix if need be or someone I always liked was K Keegan to come out of semi retirement to give us some attacking kick up the arse. If only he wasn't such a deserter :sladeout: :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:28 am

Forever Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:If you get your wish and Vincent Tan sacks Slade, who do you think Tan will replace him with ?

That is not, who you want or who you would like Tan to replace him with ?

Tan is making cut backs, he is selling and cutting the wage bill, that includes the level of manager we employ as well.

Slade is doing what is expected of him by Tan, he is selling players, cutting the wage bill and we are competing in the league.

I didn't think, and I dont think many others did either, that we would be above mid table this season under Slade but he is doing better than most of us thought we would so with that in mind and remember who chooses the manager and the pay he will get and the constraints he will work under, don't you think we would be jumping from the fire pan into the fire?

I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.



Tan, would only pick in my opinion another yes man/puppet, so we would be no better off.

Tan, Could not handle a man who wants to do it their way and won't get a manager who wants to spend again as just look what happened with Ole.
A strong/tough/no nonsence manager would also not suit Tan :lol:


What about trollope then annis. We would be better off with him than slade imo

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:28 am

The issue for me is not who I want in but who I want to sell up and feck off ! Under the current climate it matters not one jot who is manager if the Despot retains control ! We'll go nowhere until he sells up & the fairy godmother lands at the CCS ! Be careful wot you wish for !

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:32 am

clear out -


anyone who has the balls to change tatics and able to manage a squad of talent for 90 mins

taxi for :sladeout: and his believers :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:34 am

carlccfc wrote:Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

If you get your wish and Vincent Tan sacks Slade, who do you think Tan will replace him with ?

That is not, who you want or who you would like Tan to replace him with ?

Tan is making cut backs, he is selling and cutting the wage bill, that includes the level of manager we employ as well.

Slade is doing what is expected of him by Tan, he is selling players, cutting the wage bill and we are competing in the league.

I didn't think, and I dont think many others did either, that we would be above mid table this season under Slade but he is doing better than most of us thought we would so with that in mind and remember who chooses the manager and the pay he will get and the constraints he will work under, don't you think we would be jumping from the fire pan into the fire?

I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.


Good post, Carl. Inclined to agree with you.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:35 am

mallo wrote:clear out -


anyone who has the balls to change tatics and able to manage a squad of talent for 90 mins

taxi for :sladeout: and his believers :ayatollah: :bluescarf:



DONT FORGET IT IS TAN WHOSE PULLING ALL THE STRINGS AND GOING UN-NOTICED UNDER THR RADAR ! NOT!!!!!!

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:34 am

Trollope and Bellers obvious..... or is it? :sladeout:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:33 am

polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.


Totally agree

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:54 am

It's not the results that bug me the most its him picking the team and I believe we should be better than what we are doing atm!

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:37 am

carlccfc wrote:Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

If you get your wish and Vincent Tan sacks Slade, who do you think Tan will replace him with ?

That is not, who you want or who you would like Tan to replace him with ?

Tan is making cut backs, he is selling and cutting the wage bill, that includes the level of manager we employ as well.

Slade is doing what is expected of him by Tan, he is selling players, cutting the wage bill and we are competing in the league.

I didn't think, and I dont think many others did either, that we would be above mid table this season under Slade but he is doing better than most of us thought we would so with that in mind and remember who chooses the manager and the pay he will get and the constraints he will work under, don't you think we would be jumping from the fire pan into the fire?

I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.



I don't think RS will take us anywhere soon.

However at the end of the day it's your money so you can choose to waste it how you please.

Thousands have already decided and it will get worse with people voting with their feet.

Blackburn home Saturday!

15000 attendance last night, Hmmmm things continue to amaze ( although I can't be fooled)

Before anyone says, I am only saying how it is and if people are not happy with that, it's ok with me. :ayatollah:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:48 am

The club has stated on many occasions this season that the target is a playoff place at the end of the season, not promotion, just a playoff place. The simple fact is that we are FAILING against that target and this morning we are 6 points off the playoffs and 6 points ahead of 17th place, classic mid table stuff.

I don't accept all this cost cutting stuff being a reason for the clear failings in Slade management as we are not the only club having to cut costs, indeed even after the cost savings of the last 12 months our budget, and squad, is way ahead of Birmingham, Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich, Blackburn, Leeds, I could go on. Next season our PL parachute payments drop by £10m to just £8m so this period of cost cutting is by no means over and, in my opinion, will continue this January and next summer.

In January it looks like we may be giving Slade more money to spend, Why? just look at what he has done so far in the transfer market to justify ANY owner trusting his judgement. Doyle was his most expensive signing farmed out on loan and sitting on his arse on the bench at struggling Preston.

In my opinion we should ditch him now, he will go in the summer anyway, and let Trollope take over until the end of the season and advertise the job and see who applies.

Whatever happens we should absolutely not give the idiot a single penny to spend next month as in my opinion he will just waste it and add to the debt mountain the club already has. We still have to make major cuts to the playing budget so may as well start now and continue to offload the high earners like Jones.

In my opinion we haven't yet hit rock bottom in the cost cutting cycle and the worst is yet to come, just please get rid of the biggest problem NOW.And for me that's Russell Slade.


:sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:28 am

We are a lot higher than I expected but I fully believe the squad is top 6 quality but happy to stua up because of Slade who I think is an awful manager.

As for the new manager, who knows with Tan. It wouldnt surpise me if he went for another Slade but also wouldn't surprise me if he totally changed plan and went for a good manager and backed him.

Either way I have little faith in Slade and don't think he is a good manager.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:32 am

carlccfc wrote:I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control


Sums it all up carl, but lets all hammer slade :laughing6:

The root of this plague at the club is tan the quicker he fucks off the better.

Id have rather taken a points deduction and admin if given the option before tan come anywhere near the club, theres more life & passion up Merthyr this season than ours, the whole club is rotten imo and he's the reason why :thumbup:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:36 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control


Sums it all up carl, but lets all hammer slade :laughing6:

The root of this plague at the club is tan the quicker he fucks off the better.

Id have rather taken a points deduction and admin if given the option before tan come anywhere near the club, theres more life & passion up Merthyr this season than ours, the whole club is rotten imo and he's the reason why :thumbup:

Merthyr got booed off on Boxing Day and they've had 3 promotions in 4 years ffs. :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:37 am

polo wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control


Sums it all up carl, but lets all hammer slade :laughing6:

The root of this plague at the club is tan the quicker he fucks off the better.

Id have rather taken a points deduction and admin if given the option before tan come anywhere near the club, theres more life & passion up Merthyr this season than ours, the whole club is rotten imo and he's the reason why :thumbup:

Merthyr got booed off on Boxing Day and they've had 3 promotions in 4 years ffs. :lol:

Knew I seen you there :laughing6:

The only football I see with a buzz in it is FA cup games this season lower league vs higher league teams

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:37 am

Holloway or even Warnock, Bellers etc - there are lots of others available - if they want to come here is a different matter.

Slade needs to get a cab to cardiff central and catch the 12:15 to Luton

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:38 am

Ainsworth is performing well another
Manager I like is Justin Edinburgh! Done well with county and took over a gillingham side near the bottom and struggling, next season they could be in the championship!
If it's keeping cost down we need a young hungry manager with a modern approach on the game.

At the moment we can't win away and are drawing at home! It's not good! Forest were shit last night and we just lacked any idea upfront on how to break them down! We lost our width and there was just no movement into space!

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:02 am

carlccfc wrote:Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

If you get your wish and Vincent Tan sacks Slade, who do you think Tan will replace him with ?

That is not, who you want or who you would like Tan to replace him with ?

Tan is making cut backs, he is selling and cutting the wage bill, that includes the level of manager we employ as well.

Slade is doing what is expected of him by Tan, he is selling players, cutting the wage bill and we are competing in the league.

I didn't think, and I dont think many others did either, that we would be above mid table this season under Slade but he is doing better than most of us thought we would so with that in mind and remember who chooses the manager and the pay he will get and the constraints he will work under, don't you think we would be jumping from the fire pan into the fire?

I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.


I think he will go for Bellemey, to get the fans back on board :ayatollah:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:10 am

I dont think we should have to lower our expectations with this squad at all.
Enough quality to get out of a shit standard leauge.
The constraint is out manager who has no ability to read a game who pick the right players.

:sladeout: :sladeout:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:50 am

We might be mid table now but come end of season we could be in dog fight at lower end, unless some of these interesting European signings like he says can score goals because that's where we're lacking. If you don't take your chances you don't win simple. I'm not a fan of Slade il be honest I think that he will have till end of season and then decision will be made. He's got to Xmas higher than most expected so he's going nowhere.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:38 am

carlccfc wrote:


I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.


Do you really think he has a clue about what happens at CCS? (Or even a care after the rebrand turn around?)

Until and unless the club appoints people who understand football, and have a mandate to advise the owner as to the what direction the football side of the club should be going, then nothing is going to change.

If you disagree or know better, then tell us who is advising Tan and the board on the football side, and what their football credentiasl are.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:45 am

Danny Says wrote:
carlccfc wrote:


I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.


Do you really think he has a clue about what happens at CCS? (Or even a care after the rebrand turn around?)

Until and unless the club appoints people who understand football, and have a mandate to advise the owner as to the what direction the football side of the club should be going, then nothing is going to change.

If you disagree or know better, then tell us who is advising Tan and the board on the football side, and what their football credentiasl are.

I have banged the drum for years that City need a 'football man' between the owner and manager making football decisions.

Tan believes he is the right man to be making managerial changes and even signing players.

The guy is a loose cannon who listens to nobody, not even his mother.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:50 am

He listened to that f*cking pillock Glenn Roeder when he employed his mate Slade :evil: