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Re: ' Russell Slade meeting '

Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:59 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
corky wrote:It's tonight I have a spare ticket if you fancy going along


No Thanks Corky :thumbright: , after being told last time that if I came to the meeting regarding Atmosphere, I was not allowed to mention put home fans by away fans or mentions our fans having banter with away fans, I honestly do feel our club is run like a Dictatorship and thats why half the Ninian Stand is now empty,Ive seen fans told off for just looking at away fans, I don't see a problem with banter as long as NO trouble its been going on in football for over 150 years,just not allowed by Wayne Nash.

Please let us know how it goes :thumbright: :ayatollah:


Nothing to do with atmosphere this time but agree a question and answer session should be any questions

Re: ' Russell Slade meeting '

Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:02 pm

I doubt I will write anything up ,no doubt the press will be there, it's easy copy for them for tomorrow's papers, but I probably make a few remarks about how it goes

Re: ' Russell Slade meeting '

Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:09 pm

maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:Tell him to change to 5-3-2 and drop Whitts and play Manga with someone behind the front two.


Love the football manager tactics on here. Pray, how would 532 work? A 451 would swarm that easier than it would 442.

3 centre backs marking 1 striker = 2 wasted players which would cost us as our 3 in midfield but 1 behind the front man would mean our midfield would be overrun. Our wing backs would be overrun by the opposition full backs and wide midfielders. They could tuck their extra full back or wide midfielder would tuck in or push forward meaning our defence would be overrun and in chaos even with the 3 centre backs.


It does work, similar system to ManU/Wales, it's basically 3-5-2 in attack and when defending against 1 striker the other 2 centre backs deal with the wingers curtting in while the wing backs press the midfield...


Wales play 5221. Amongst that they have Gareth Bale who always takes out two opposing players which is why it works for Wales.


No i've watched every game they played Bale up top next to Robson-Kanu almost every game. 5-3-2 (3-5-2 with wing backs)


I'll indulge you though how would our players fit into a 532? Pick that team.


Along the lines of:
----------------------MARSHALL------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------
---------MORRISON----MANGA----CONNOLLY----------
--FABIO---------------------------------------MALONE--
-------------GUNNAR---------------RALLS---------------
------------------------AMEOBI---------------------------
---------------JONES-----------WATT--------------------


So midfield over run then. It works for Wales as one of our players at the back (Williams) is good on the ball and can offer himself as an extra option. None of our centre backs can do that. Ameobi behind the front man is a total waste.


How is it, with essentially 5 midfielders? A lot of top teams that were playing 4-2-3-1 are now moving towards this. We have 3-4 excellent CBs and Whitts is no longer effective and we will have more support for front two, this would work.

Re: ' Russell Slade meeting '

Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:20 pm

corky wrote:I doubt I will write anything up ,no doubt the press will be there, it's easy copy for them for tomorrow's papers, but I probably make a few remarks about how it goes

Thanks Corky :thumbright:

Re: ' Russell Slade meeting '

Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:07 pm

T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:Tell him to change to 5-3-2 and drop Whitts and play Manga with someone behind the front two.


Love the football manager tactics on here. Pray, how would 532 work? A 451 would swarm that easier than it would 442.

3 centre backs marking 1 striker = 2 wasted players which would cost us as our 3 in midfield but 1 behind the front man would mean our midfield would be overrun. Our wing backs would be overrun by the opposition full backs and wide midfielders. They could tuck their extra full back or wide midfielder would tuck in or push forward meaning our defence would be overrun and in chaos even with the 3 centre backs.


It does work, similar system to ManU/Wales, it's basically 3-5-2 in attack and when defending against 1 striker the other 2 centre backs deal with the wingers curtting in while the wing backs press the midfield...


Wales play 5221. Amongst that they have Gareth Bale who always takes out two opposing players which is why it works for Wales.


No i've watched every game they played Bale up top next to Robson-Kanu almost every game. 5-3-2 (3-5-2 with wing backs)


I'll indulge you though how would our players fit into a 532? Pick that team.


Along the lines of:
----------------------MARSHALL------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------
---------MORRISON----MANGA----CONNOLLY----------
--FABIO---------------------------------------MALONE--
-------------GUNNAR---------------RALLS---------------
------------------------AMEOBI---------------------------
---------------JONES-----------WATT--------------------


So midfield over run then. It works for Wales as one of our players at the back (Williams) is good on the ball and can offer himself as an extra option. None of our centre backs can do that. Ameobi behind the front man is a total waste.


How is it, with essentially 5 midfielders? A lot of top teams that were playing 4-2-3-1 are now moving towards this. We have 3-4 excellent CBs and Whitts is no longer effective and we will have more support for front two, this would work.


How 5 midfielders? Ameobi does not have anything to offer in a central midfield role (if your including him in the 5 midfielders). The wing backs would be far too busy to offer anything in midfield as they would be outnumbered. We have good centre backs but their distribution is poor so could not offer anything. It might work on football manager but in real life I doubt it would. Poor Ralls and Gunnarrson would be smashed.

Re: ' Russell Slade meeting '

Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:14 am

maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:
maccydee wrote:
T1JMO wrote:Tell him to change to 5-3-2 and drop Whitts and play Manga with someone behind the front two.


Love the football manager tactics on here. Pray, how would 532 work? A 451 would swarm that easier than it would 442.

3 centre backs marking 1 striker = 2 wasted players which would cost us as our 3 in midfield but 1 behind the front man would mean our midfield would be overrun. Our wing backs would be overrun by the opposition full backs and wide midfielders. They could tuck their extra full back or wide midfielder would tuck in or push forward meaning our defence would be overrun and in chaos even with the 3 centre backs.


It does work, similar system to ManU/Wales, it's basically 3-5-2 in attack and when defending against 1 striker the other 2 centre backs deal with the wingers curtting in while the wing backs press the midfield...


Wales play 5221. Amongst that they have Gareth Bale who always takes out two opposing players which is why it works for Wales.


No i've watched every game they played Bale up top next to Robson-Kanu almost every game. 5-3-2 (3-5-2 with wing backs)


I'll indulge you though how would our players fit into a 532? Pick that team.


Along the lines of:
----------------------MARSHALL------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------
---------MORRISON----MANGA----CONNOLLY----------
--FABIO---------------------------------------MALONE--
-------------GUNNAR---------------RALLS---------------
------------------------AMEOBI---------------------------
---------------JONES-----------WATT--------------------


So midfield over run then. It works for Wales as one of our players at the back (Williams) is good on the ball and can offer himself as an extra option. None of our centre backs can do that. Ameobi behind the front man is a total waste.


How is it, with essentially 5 midfielders? A lot of top teams that were playing 4-2-3-1 are now moving towards this. We have 3-4 excellent CBs and Whitts is no longer effective and we will have more support for front two, this would work.


How 5 midfielders? Ameobi does not have anything to offer in a central midfield role (if your including him in the 5 midfielders). The wing backs would be far too busy to offer anything in midfield as they would be outnumbered. We have good centre backs but their distribution is poor so could not offer anything. It might work on football manager but in real life I doubt it would. Poor Ralls and Gunnarrson would be smashed.


Because the 2 wingbacks press the wide midfielders and the attacking midfielder also presses the midfield when defending... so you have 5 players in the middle when defending but an extra player further up the field when attacking. Ameobi can play behind the front two, Noone and Gunnarson have also played there before... or ideally sign Kevin Nolan!