" So Does Vincent Tan Ever Learn & Yet again what a waste "

While we are on the subject of cost cutting! I've noticed this season our pitch has not been in great condition! Are we also now no longer using the lights and maintaining the pitch as much! Grass looks a lot longer and cut up terrible! Not the usual carpet we have seen over the last few seasons!

Millennium stadium pitch is now looking in better condition that ours!

Didn't we have Ravell morrison and zaha during 2014, or was it before that?

Yes Morrison fees included in the fees also all of oles summer signings it covers from end of last season to start of this season

It does not include Ole's Summer Signings, I just rang Gaskel.

Championship clubs' agents fees (between October 1, 2014, and September 30, 2015)


Morrison was signed by Tan



Only one person to blame TAN.

I stand corrected

Well annis who do you have in mind to replace tan hmmmmm

Well annis who do you have in mind to replace tan hmmmmm

There is no one ,where is the consortium too now the one what was said to be around when we were in red

Just a thought, when it says "include payments made by clubs on behalf of players" does this mean it includes wages we may be paying for our players out on loan? If so it probably doesn't surprise me!

Jon, 80% at least of our wages are being covered by the loan agreements, so the other clubs are paying them, and we are talking about Agents fees on transfers, not wages.

Its probably to be expected Annis, as we still have players on Premiership contracts and a lot of the those fees will be on going from the deals done over the last couple of years contracts. Look at the other big fees, Fulham, Reading, QPR and Hull, all relegated clubs with Premiership players on the wage bill. Unless we see it broken down into fees paid on the new players brought in, then it's unfair to jump to conclusions

But like you say many other ex Premier League Clubs have been relegated in the last 3 years, yet we are top of the League for Agents fees, during October 2014 -till the end of this September just gone, I don't see any other club at the top of that League?which is not to be proud off.

Well annis who do you have in mind to replace tan hmmmmm

Steve, as you know, we are tied to Tan, as he has put us in this awful debt and guess what ? 95% owed to Tan, so he holds the ace cards at this moment in time.

Well annis who do you have in mind to replace tan hmmmmm

Steve, as you know, we are tied to Tan, as he has put us in this awful debt and guess what ? 95% owed to Tan, so he holds the ace cards at this moment in time.

I don't think those figures tells the whole story,still it wouldn't be the first time we've been screwed over by a foreign owner.At least this one hasn't left us to go bust yet.

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Lauren Ann McNie
People'll pin it on Malky somehow...

Annis Abraham Jnr III
Thank fully they can't Lauren


Steve Perry
<>< Annis, we still haven't had a Shareholders' AGM for FOUR YEARS! What hope is there for the Club? Tan has tried to pin all the ills at the Club on Malky but methinks there are still deep problems at the City. I guess this is what you get when you rid the Club of footballing people who challenge the Owner.


Annis Abraham Jnr III
Hmmmm? Steve I really don't know where we are going under Tan

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Cardiff top list of Football League clubs' spending on agent fees

30/11/15

Cardiff City topped the list of clubs in the Football League who spent money on fees to agents
Cardiff City topped the list of clubs in the Football League who spent money on fees to agents
Cardiff have come top of a list of Football League clubs for fees paid to agents during the period October 1 2014 to September 30 2015.

The Bluebirds paid out just over £2.8m to agents during the period in question, with Fulham not far behind on £2.74m.

Reading were next on the list after they paid out almost £2.4m, while QPR spent £2.36m, with Championship clubs spending more than £26m.

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Wigan (£1.4m) comfortably topped the list of League One clubs, with Millwall paying out just under £300,000 and Sheffield United a little over £250,000.

One club in the division - Bury - spent nothing on agents' fees, as did two teams in League Two.

Accrington and Hartlepool paid out nothing at all, with Dagenham and Redbridge spending a frugal £700 on fees.

Portsmouth were the biggest spenders in the division as they chose to invest almost £270,000 in this area, with Leyton Orient (£137,000) also topping six figures.

The amounts shown include payments made by clubs on behalf of players with figures collected and provided by the FA.

CHAMPIONSHIP
CLUB TOTAL PAYMENTS TO AGENTS
BIRMINGHAM CITY £443,570
BLACKBURN ROVERS £1,254,610
BOLTON WANDERERS £964,869
BRENTFORD £600,636
BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION £912,421
BRISTOL CITY £231,316
BURNLEY £1,363,831
CARDIFF CITY £2,828,133
CHARLTON ATHLETIC £656,759
DERBY COUNTY £1,102,071
FULHAM £2,735,336
HUDDERSFIELD TOWN £429,343
HULL CITY £1,813,919
IPSWICH TOWN £261,347
LEEDS UNITED £786,897
MIDDLESBROUGH £850,285
MILTON KEYNES DONS £672,371
NOTTINGHAM FOREST £1,440,730
PRESTON NORTH END £194,961
QUEENS PARK RANGERS £2,361,742
READING £2,391,666
ROTHERHAM UNITED £185,430
SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY £792,203
WOLVES £849,600
TOTAL £26,124,044

LEAGUE ONE (TOP SIX IN FEES PAID TO AGENTS)
WIGAN ATHLETIC £1,461,088
MILLWALL £297,850
SHEFFIELD UNITED £254,713
BARNSLEY £156,315
BRADFORD CITY £121,789
SCUNTHORPE UNITED £112,650
TOTAL £3,167,964

LEAGUE TWO (TOP SIX IN FEES PAID TO AGENTS)
PORTSMOUTH £268,175
LEYTON ORIENT £136,642
CAMBRIDGE UNITED £84,091
NOTTS COUNTY £71,086
YEOVIL TOWN £55,807
LUTON TOWN £43,374
TOTAL £1,007,920

I wonder how much we paid out in the premiership season

£2.25m

I wonder how much we paid out in the premiership season

£2.25m

Gary Medel's agent must of been a hell of a chunk of that, they've had big transfers a few times before.

I wonder how much we paid out in the premiership season

£2.25m

Gary Medel's agent must of been a hell of a chunk of that, they've had big transfers a few times before.

Cornelius, Medel, Caulker - just those three players cost £28m+ and we paid £2.25m in agent fees.

Fast forward a couple of seasons and we pay approximately £1.5m on transfer fees but £2.8m on agent fees.

Something not quite right there Thomas

I wonder how much we paid out in the premiership season

£2.25m

Do we've paid nearly 2 seasons later in the Chamoionship £1.8mill the highest in all League Duvusiins shocking

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

BLOODY HELL Wez, CHEERS THIS PROVES THAT MALKY MACKAY DO NO WRONG DOINGS

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

BLOODY HELL Wez, CHEERS THIS PROVES THAT MALKY MACKAY DO NO WRONG DOINGS

I dont think you read it right Annis the club at the time stoped all payments to agents and are still with holding them if looks like malky and moody fucked right up and it is partly the club's fault for letting them handle transfer dealings your talking nearly 10 million in agents fees and it could run more

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

BLOODY HELL Wez, CHEERS THIS PROVES THAT MALKY MACKAY DO NO WRONG DOINGS

I dont think you read it right Annis the club at the time stoped all payments to agents and are still with holding them if looks like malky and moody fucked right up and it is partly the club's fault for letting them handle transfer dealings your talking nearly 10 million in agents fees and it could run more

Wez, correct they did as Tan accused Malky and Co,which proved totally false

But fair play, none of this is down to Slades time

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

BLOODY HELL Wez, CHEERS THIS PROVES THAT MALKY MACKAY DO NO WRONG DOINGS

I dont think you read it right Annis the club at the time stoped all payments to agents and are still with holding them if looks like malky and moody fucked right up and it is partly the club's fault for letting them handle transfer dealings your talking nearly 10 million in agents fees and it could run more

Exactly Malky and Moody fucked the club up royally. Tans biggest mistake was giving them control of transfers and budget.

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

BLOODY HELL Wez, CHEERS THIS PROVES THAT MALKY MACKAY DO NO WRONG DOINGS

I dont think you read it right Annis the club at the time stoped all payments to agents and are still with holding them if looks like malky and moody fucked right up and it is partly the club's fault for letting them handle transfer dealings your talking nearly 10 million in agents fees and it could run more

Exactly Malky and Moody fucked the club up royally. Tans biggest mistake was giving them control of transfers and budget.

Totally agree what a f*cking mess ,overspending and we still have the fall out ,the club trusted them and they fucked right up

That's not surprising to me at all

Not sure why you are so shocked Annis?

Most of our squad on high wages so payments to agents still remain higher than they should

We also signed a few on low fees and usually you end up paying higher agent fees in that instance

Has nothing to do with the club either agents demand the fees they are payable regardless

They are the scum of football

some clever clogs on here surely can break down transfer dealings of other clubs to get comaprisons into players brought sold so can compare things, in isolation its very misleading even if it is a bad amount in comparison to sales of players at the club.!!!

Allan, who is top of the Agents fees for all 3 League Divisions, right up to Sept 30th 2015?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

BLOODY HELL Wez, CHEERS THIS PROVES THAT MALKY MACKAY DO NO WRONG DOINGS

I dont think you read it right Annis the club at the time stoped all payments to agents and are still with holding them if looks like malky and moody fucked right up and it is partly the club's fault for letting them handle transfer dealings your talking nearly 10 million in agents fees and it could run more

But malky can do no wrong in some fans eyes
when will some wake up
tan trusted them , and look how he was repaid
who is to blame for our financial mess
imo its down to thosevthat tan trusted
Exactly Malky and Moody fucked the club up royally. Tans biggest mistake was giving them control of transfers and budget.

Totally agree what a f*cking mess ,overspending and we still have the fall out ,the club trusted them and they fucked right up

That's not surprising to me at all

Not sure why you are so shocked Annis?

Most of our squad on high wages so payments to agents still remain higher than they should

We also signed a few on low fees and usually you end up paying higher agent fees in that instance

Has nothing to do with the club either agents demand the fees they are payable regardless

They are the scum of football

I have to totally agree with you.

But by Tan having to pay all this, shows there was No fraud by Malky.

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That's not surprising to me at all

Not sure why you are so shocked Annis?

Most of our squad on high wages so payments to agents still remain higher than they should

We also signed a few on low fees and usually you end up paying higher agent fees in that instance

Has nothing to do with the club either agents demand the fees they are payable regardless

They are the scum of football

I have to totally agree with you.

But by Tan having to pay all this, shows there was No fraud by Malky.

Just total disregard for tans and Cardiff city's money ,what a mess the club for letting malky and moody have full control over transfer and malky and moody them self out of there depth totally

While we are on the subject of cost cutting! I've noticed this season our pitch has not been in great condition! Are we also now no longer using the lights and maintaining the pitch as much! Grass looks a lot longer and cut up terrible! Not the usual carpet we have seen over the last few seasons!

Millennium stadium pitch is now looking in better condition that ours!

Climate change reasons.

I guess I was right then about zaha mrevel morrison etc historical payments.

Never understood why the players dont pay the agents , in any other job if you had an agent you would pay them yourself a percentage of your earnings.Its bad enough that the clubs have to pay transfers high wages without paying an agent for the privledge of signing a player.

No you don't, in recruitment you charge the customer not the worker

The club will go bust within 5 years mark my words