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Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:49 pm

Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:54 pm

Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


Talking about on the pitch

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:07 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that: Been raising my concerns for a while now: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164437&hilit=+Keith

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:09 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:11 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that: Been raising my concerns for a while now: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164437&hilit=+Keith


If we did and it's a big if it's only what would have happened to us when he took us over.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:11 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:13 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that: Been raising my concerns for a while now: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164437&hilit=+Keith


If we did and it's a big if it's only what would have happened to us when he took us over.


And you knew that 100% did you ? A club that reaches the FA Cup final just months before the court case had more than one interested party believe me it's just Ridsdale preferred Tans group for his personal benefit

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:15 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has


Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:16 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has


Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.


No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!!

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:20 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has


Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.


No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!!


So is that us certain to go bust then?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:23 pm

Im not an expert on this sort of thing but about the accounts is that all just guess work or fact?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:27 pm

Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that: Been raising my concerns for a while now: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164437&hilit=+Keith


If we did and it's a big if it's only what would have happened to us when he took us over.


And you knew that 100% did you ? A club that reaches the FA Cup final just months before the court case had more than one interested party believe me it's just Ridsdale preferred Tans group for his personal benefit


Well it was 18 months. It was a matter of court record we had no money coming in and would be liquidated.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:37 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has


Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.


No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!!


So is that us certain to go bust then?


I can't have an opinion now can I ? There's only so long a business can go on losing money, in my opinion Tan is doing excatly what Sam was doing just on a much larger scale

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:40 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has


Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.


No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!!


So is that us certain to go bust then?


I can't have an opinion now can I ? There's only so long a business can go on losing money, in my opinion Tan is doing excatly what Sam was doing just on a much larger scale


He's not taking a wage from the club.
He's using his own money to fund the club.
He is not charging us interest.

Apart from those three things it's similar yes. I suppose, in a roundabout way but not at all.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:40 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has


Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.


No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!!


So is that us certain to go bust then?


I can't have an opinion now can I ? There's only so long a business can go on losing money, in my opinion Tan is doing excatly what Sam was doing just on a much larger scale


Ok but who knows what Tan is doing it will all come out in the end. :thumbup:

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:19 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish


What makes you think that?


The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.


Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has


Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.


No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!!


So is that us certain to go bust then?


I can't have an opinion now can I ? There's only so long a business can go on losing money, in my opinion Tan is doing excatly what Sam was doing just on a much larger scale


He's not taking a wage from the club.
He's using his own money to fund the club.
He is not charging us interest.

Apart from those three things it's similar yes. I suppose, in a roundabout way but not at all.


There are many other different ways of generating a profit rather than the eyecatching headline of 'Not charging interest' etc

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:30 pm

The state of the accounts make me think that[/quote]

I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.[/quote]

Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has[/quote]

Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.[/quote]

No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!![/quote]

So is that us certain to go bust then?[/quote]

I can't have an opinion now can I ? There's only so long a business can go on losing money, in my opinion Tan is doing excatly what Sam was doing just on a much larger scale[/quote]

He's not taking a wage from the club.
He's using his own money to fund the club.
He is not charging us interest.

Apart from those three things it's similar yes. I suppose, in a roundabout way but not at all.[/quote]

There are many other different ways of generating a profit rather than the eyecatching headline of 'Not charging interest' etc[/quote]

Unfortunately Riddler sold some of those off already.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:05 pm

maccydee wrote:The state of the accounts make me think that


I don't think we will go bust Tan won't let it if he did then that would look bad on him and he said that himself.[/quote]

Deep down he doesn't give a f**k as if he didn't he wouldn't be letting the club go so stale as he has[/quote]

Who knows but i think Tan is just recouping what he can while keeping us in the champ on the cheap and maybe sell on for a loss unless we do get promoted.[/quote]

No he's not because he's not recouping as there has been NO loan repayments!!![/quote]

So is that us certain to go bust then?[/quote]

I can't have an opinion now can I ? There's only so long a business can go on losing money, in my opinion Tan is doing excatly what Sam was doing just on a much larger scale[/quote]

He's not taking a wage from the club.
He's using his own money to fund the club.
He is not charging us interest.

Apart from those three things it's similar yes. I suppose, in a roundabout way but not at all.[/quote]

There are many other different ways of generating a profit rather than the eyecatching headline of 'Not charging interest' etc[/quote]

Unfortunately Riddler sold some of those off already.[/quote]

What on earth are you talking about ? I'm talking for example that he may say 'I'm not charging any interest'' can just mean that he's putting the value of the interest amount onto the asking price. As I said that is an example of how eyecatching headlines may not be everything it sounds

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:38 am

No one wanted to buy us when we were a championship club with 40 million debt so I doubt there are many who want to now our debt is (allegedly) north of 150 million.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:49 am

I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:53 am

Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:07 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?


Well ring your accountant and ask him to give you some more examples

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:51 pm

Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?


Well ring your accountant and ask him to give you some more examples


Accountant? Do it all myself pal.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:39 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?


Well ring your accountant and ask him to give you some more examples


Accountant? Do it all myself pal.


Well then you would know of more examples of the one I give you how Tan could make the same money using alternative avenues

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:58 pm

Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?


Well ring your accountant and ask him to give you some more examples


Accountant? Do it all myself pal.


Well then you would know of more examples of the one I give you how Tan could make the same money using alternative avenues


Not so easy with a football club. They are renowned money drainers.

One way he certainly isn't making dosh is on a wage. He takes nothing from the club.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:00 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?


Well ring your accountant and ask him to give you some more examples


Accountant? Do it all myself pal.


Well then you would know of more examples of the one I give you how Tan could make the same money using alternative avenues


Not so easy with a football club. They are renowned money drainers.

One way he certainly isn't making dosh is on a wage. He takes nothing from the club.


Wages are calculated as one on the accounts book so you can't be certain of that whatsoever so I very much doubt that you do your own accounts if you don't even know that. Anyway what about the dodgy goings on regarding the Malaysian tourist board etc where they paid shite money for their advertising at the club!! You telling me that he's not making one way or another from that ?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:08 pm

Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?


Well ring your accountant and ask him to give you some more examples


Accountant? Do it all myself pal.


Well then you would know of more examples of the one I give you how Tan could make the same money using alternative avenues


Not so easy with a football club. They are renowned money drainers.

One way he certainly isn't making dosh is on a wage. He takes nothing from the club.


Wages are calculated as one on the accounts book so you can't be certain of that whatsoever so I very much doubt that you do your own accounts if you don't even know that. Anyway what about the dodgy goings on regarding the Malaysian tourist board etc where they paid shite money for their advertising at the club!! You telling me that he's not making one way or another from that ?


Sam's wages and Riddlers wages always showed up on the books.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:05 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I knew you'd try and pick me up on that hence the reason why I stated 'an example' on not one but two occasions!!! Pmsl


But that takes away any impact your post has. You could say To anything "I was just giving an example".

Anyway more important matters. You see post I tagged you about Bollinger?


Well ring your accountant and ask him to give you some more examples


Accountant? Do it all myself pal.


Well then you would know of more examples of the one I give you how Tan could make the same money using alternative avenues


Not so easy with a football club. They are renowned money drainers.

One way he certainly isn't making dosh is on a wage. He takes nothing from the club.


Wages are calculated as one on the accounts book so you can't be certain of that whatsoever so I very much doubt that you do your own accounts if you don't even know that. Anyway what about the dodgy goings on regarding the Malaysian tourist board etc where they paid shite money for their advertising at the club!! You telling me that he's not making one way or another from that ?


Sam's wages and Riddlers wages always showed up on the books.


No they weren't, payments to their companies were but not to them personally

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:49 pm

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