AT LEAST 128 PEOPLE KILLED " Gunmen open fire in Paris "

Muslims are the problem full stop the people on here who say otherwise condemn their children and grandchildren to an uncertain future .Wake up, the peace loving Muslims want to take over, there will be similar attacks in London soon, in shopping centres, et al. Cardiff is also a prime target we have kow towed to these pricks for too long.

too right....its the muslim ideology that is the problem they want to impose their values on the rest of us.ive got absolutely no problem with immigrants coming into the country & am fully in favour of a diverse culture-polish afro caribbean etc they all share our basic human values of tolerence & live together peacefully.The muslim etxremists do not share these values & believe that all others who do not share their beliefs are infedels & should convert or die.I am not in any way racist -the colour of a person`s skin is irrelevants -its what s inside that counts & and i really fear for the future of europe as a whole if we continue to allow the increasing islamification of our european culture.The eastern european countries have come under critisism for not accepting any refugees,slovakia will accept as many refugees as want to go there as long as they are not muslims(syria had a 10% christian population so must be many syrian christians fleeing as they would be slaughtered by isis)the slovakian goverment justified their stance by saying that they have no mosques here & no muslims so would not integrate into society-we should have adopted this stance years ago instead of bending over backwards to accomodate the muslims distorted ideology.
We in britain have a strong tradition of accepting refugees from troubled countries or simply those economic migrants who simply seek a better life here -look back at the jews,polish in the 1930/40`s -jamaicans in the 50s/60`s indians in the 60`s/70`s (good curry houses a welcome benefit-note that indians are hindus NOT MUSLIMS )east african ugandans/kenyans in the 80`s & most recently polish,spanish east european etc & other eu citizens(couldnt get an an nhs dentist in my town until the arrival of a spanish one)all have integrated into our culture & way of life & FOR THE MOST PART I`M SURE MOST WOULD AGREE HAVE MADE THIS COUNTRY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN AND POSE NO THREAT TO US.

Muslims are the problem full stop the people on here who say otherwise condemn their children and grandchildren to an uncertain future .Wake up, the peace loving Muslims want to take over, there will be similar attacks in London soon, in shopping centres, et al. Cardiff is also a prime target we have kow towed to these pricks for too long.

too right....its the muslim ideology that is the problem they want to impose their values on the rest of us.ive got absolutely no problem with immigrants coming into the country & am fully in favour of a diverse culture-polish afro caribbean etc they all share our basic human values of tolerence & live together peacefully.The muslim etxremists do not share these values & believe that all others who do not share their beliefs are infedels & should convert or die.I am not in any way racist -the colour of a person`s skin is irrelevants -its what s inside that counts & and i really fear for the future of europe as a whole if we continue to allow the increasing islamification of our european culture.The eastern european countries have come under critisism for not accepting any refugees,slovakia will accept as many refugees as want to go there as long as they are not muslims(syria had a 10% christian population so must be many syrian christians fleeing as they would be slaughtered by isis)the slovakian goverment justified their stance by saying that they have no mosques here & no muslims so would not integrate into society-we should have adopted this stance years ago instead of bending over backwards to accomodate the muslims distorted ideology.
We in britain have a strong tradition of accepting refugees from troubled countries or simply those economic migrants who simply seek a better life here -look back at the jews,polish in the 1930/40`s -jamaicans in the 50s/60`s indians in the 60`s/70`s (good curry houses a welcome benefit-note that indians are hindus NOT MUSLIMS )east african ugandans/kenyans in the 80`s & most recently polish,spanish east european etc & other eu citizens(couldnt get an an nhs dentist in my town until the arrival of a spanish one)all have integrated into our culture & way of life & FOR THE MOST PART I`M SURE MOST WOULD AGREE HAVE MADE THIS COUNTRY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN AND POSE NO THREAT TO US.

But you watch the loony left will still blame the French laws against Islam as the Islam

Muslims are the problem full stop the people on here who say otherwise condemn their children and grandchildren to an uncertain future .Wake up, the peace loving Muslims want to take over, there will be similar attacks in London soon, in shopping centres, et al. Cardiff is also a prime target we have kow towed to these pricks for too long.

Spot on.

This is way beyond this 'left versus right' theoretical guff - It's happening and worsening by the day. I can speak for myself but I thought the following Twitter exchange summed it up.

"Tiffany Jameson"
If this was committed by Muslims, then they're extremists hoping to drive an even bigger wedge between non Muslims and all the peaceful followers of Islam. And you're playing right into their hands".


"Coleman Hopkins"
"So, Tiffany Jameson - Sort of like Europe's immigration policies playing into the hands of the terrorists, eh?

If you can name me one majority Muslim country with acceptable - and this goes by Western standards - treatment of women/ethnic/religious/LGBT minorities, then I may put some stock into what you said.

However, no such country exists. Which is why it's imperative that the West cut these people off (like the rest of the world did during the middle ages), until the religious nuts and their doctrines themselves change. It's the 2015, and murder and rape - even codified by an ancient ideology - are unacceptable".

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What do they expect they let people in and this is what happens when religions are involved. Its comming here to no doubt if we close the boarders the race card will be out

The reactionary right on here are a scary bunch of people. It's like you're all glad this happened so you can spout your anti-Muslim rhetoric which isn't based anywhere near reality.

It's disgusting that rather than grieve for the innocent people who died you all seem to get a chubby for hate.

Makes me think twice about going out there next year

France has declared a national state of emergency and tightened borders after at least 120 people were killed in a night of gun and bomb attacks in Paris.
Eighty people were reported killed after gunmen burst into the Bataclan concert hall and took hostages before security forces stormed the hall.
People were shot dead at restaurants and bars at five other sites in Paris. Eight attackers are reported killed.
These are the deadliest attacks in Europe since the 2004 Madrid bombings.

Now saying at least 120 dead, as well as eight dead - seven were suicide bombers. One was heard telling a hostage:

"It's the fault of Hollande, it's the fault of your President, he should not have intervened in Syria."

A national state of emergency has been declared, and the military deployed.

All French border officers to check people, bags & vehicles entering & leaving France by road, train, sea or plane.


UK Prime Minister: I am shocked by events in Paris. Our thoughts and prayers are with the French people. We will do whatever we can to help. I will be chairing a meeting of COBRA this morning following the horrifying and sickening terror attacks in Paris.

French President Francois Hollande, visibly shaken, called Friday night's almost simultaneous attacks "a horror" and vowed to wage a "merciless" fight against terrorism.

Depressed Blue etc

Your ignorance and defence of indefensible
Makes me sick.

A religion brainwashing from birth.
Murdering each other and any c**t else
Since before I was born

And gradually getting worse
We can travel he world like we could. We can't
Be ourselves like we could.
I know people living in fear in places in South Wales FFS.

We could have stopped hitler before
The war that killed over 60,000,000 people

And history has repeated despite the warnings.
From Syria back to sainsburys -they are all around
Battle hard, trained and full of hate

We must fight it for our children's sake
That's my worry.
What will it be like for my kids when I'm gone????

I can't put into words the way I feel this morning,after last nights massacre in Paris. But enough is enough,something needs to be done.
I'm no racist far from it,but I believe all peace loving Muslims should now raise their voices and say "NOT IN MY NAME" but unfortunately that will never happen.

I think it is a left-right issue. Blair and his EU cronies have been trying to Islamify Europe for years now..... were warned what would happen, and now its happening.

Well done Blair, Merkel et al...

Vote Corbyn to finish the job.

The reactionary right on here are a scary bunch of people. It's like you're all glad this happened so you can spout your anti-Muslim rhetoric which isn't based anywhere near reality.

It's disgusting that rather than grieve for the innocent people who died you all seem to get a chubby for hate.

Or you can bury your head in the sand and pretend it's not happening, just as many did back in the 1930's

Farage and others warned us all what was comming but the race card was out. You reap what you sow he said well here it is

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Close our borders to all for starters.............

ANY suspected sympathiser with IS, who is not British National, deport them.

ANY suspected sympathiser with IS who is a British National, intern then and **** THEIR civil liberties.

When will the head buryers come to terms with the
Status quo.

I admit I'm left of centre but this is about a fight for freedom
For men women, thoughts and speech.
Our democracy and opened and tolerance has allowed this to ferment

Our way of life is severely threatened.
Now we have to fight for it

There are many ways to fight and not just killing
Finance, Internet, immigration, trade, selling arms
No new building of mosques. No religious schools

For any insular religion, community worship
Prayers can pray in one building with different rooms for each.

In our democracy -Let's make these age old bigoted religions become tolerant and respectful

Plus educate along with punish.
They should not be allowed to flourish here
The 'good Muslims' and parents of kids allowed to f**k off to Syria, Sudan, Pakistan to learn more hate
and train for terror are just like IRA sympathisers
Accessories to evil and murder

Or am I racist????

Makes me think twice about going out there next year

That's what they want you to do

Our way of life cannot be dictated to by these people,otherwise they win.

Muslims are the problem full stop the people on here who say otherwise condemn their children and grandchildren to an uncertain future .Wake up, the peace loving Muslims want to take over, there will be similar attacks in London soon, in shopping centres, et al. Cardiff is also a prime target we have kow towed to these pricks for too long.

Couldn't agree more f**k every Muslim blinkered point of view I know but you can't pick the bad the the good.

Farage and others warned us all what was comming but the race card was out. You reap what you sow he said well here it is

I know ISIS are expecting a back lash from Christian nations against Muslims (them and us) but the way to avoid this is for every Muslim against this terror, every Muslim religious leader,(like I have already said) needs to stand up and denounce this terror.
No more hiding the extremists, if they know of any terror cells or people with ISIS beliefs,they need to tell the police. Or they are no better than the extremists their selves . Also once people leave to go to Syria et al they should never be left back in to this country.

Notice the larger significant countries with a higher Muslim population.

Turkey - plenty of attacks all the time - also basically at war with the Kurds
France - numerous attacks including this latest one
UK - 7/7, Glasgow and the Lee Rigby incident
Germany - numerous terrorist attacks
B&H - Mostar car bombings, US embassy attack in Sarajevo, Zvornik police station attack
Russia - not included in the map but in Europe partially and has a fairly moderate Islamic population in Moscow due to an influx of migrants - Moscow theatre attacks, Grozny bombing
Spain - Madrid training bombings and clashes after
Netherlands - Theo Van Gogh murder by Jihadist
Sweden - Stockholm bombing
Bulgaria - airport bombing killing a bus full of Jewish tourists
Belgium - Jewish Museum shooting
Denmark - Copenhagen attacks

Even outside of Europe there have been attacks in the USA, Canada, New Zealand and Australia not to mention the many attacks that have been happening frequently all over the Middle East/Asian region of the world.

Notice how countries with much lower Muslim populations - Poland, Czech Republic, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Portugal etc have not fallen victim to any large scale attack or any serious attack at all. Also, the argument that Western intervention fuels this is nonsense as some of the countries above have helped NATO military efforts yet due to not having high Islamic populations do not have a sleeping threat lying within ready to be activated.

The acceptance of this vile 7th century religious fanatical ideology into parts of Europe has seen beheadings, grenade attacks, suicide bombings, massacres with machine guns and stabbings. It has seen people, innocent people, held hostage in fear and even children have fallen victim to this disgusting backward thinking ideology.

France's acceptance of Islam into its country will eventually be its demise because even after these latest attacks people will slowly drift back into the nonsense that 'not all Muslims are evil' which is something we already know. What we also know is Islam is evil to a degree, teaches some evil things and also teaches outdated backwards things in both the Quran and other Islamic scriptures. Moderate Muslims either need to sit together and bring this backward 7th century ideology into the modern world (never happen) or they need to accept that whilst its outdated and whilst the minority will do these things that the rest of us will criticise it for the backward 7th century ideology it is.

I am truly fed up of seeing my fellow innocent Europeans, who are just trying to go about and live their lives in peace and harmony, being killed by people following this warped and outdated religious ideology.

A well put post

Immigration marriage etc(illegal and legal)
Has been the catalyst whether we like it or not.

We really are shut out to rest of the world. Emotionally. Which is a good thing.

Car bombs kill 50+ every week in the Middle East and the iraq war carried out in our name killed over 300,000 innocents.

They know Europe will ground to halt with an attack like this. I think the best thing to do is to just carry on. People I know are not doing what they planned on doing this weekend because of it.

They are one of our closet allies and NATO should be behind them in whatever they wish to do now.

The Sunni slaughter of Shia
And innocent people trying to live and being killed is not
Something you can turn a blind eye to.

Even though it's 1000s miles away. It is horrific
Plus friends, family and religious groups live here. So it has never been truly
Remote from us.

The institutional blind eye by Muslim religion and governments
Is my real concern.

Th medieval nature of it is terrifying.
And they are taken over our tolerant societies.
Affecting our way of life.

We vote in democracy. We accept defeat.
No vote in religion. No acceptance of others either.

Don't dismiss Military Junta's point of view.

Merkel is an absolute disgrace

We must be ever vigilant in our country, because we will get hit,it may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but one day we will be attacked by Islamic Terrorists

:shock: absolute horrifying! and people think they're no risk to us

Anyone who genuinely believes that (and some of our politicians are included! ) are either seriously deluded, in denial or sympathetic to 'the cause'

Beggars belief that anyone can be anything except abhorred by such murderous atrocities!

All those saying we must now invade iSyria and take out ISIS are so deluded, that's precisely why they did what they did last night. We are not safe whilst western bombs reign down on muslim lands.

Lets let them get on with it, if they want the 15th century then they can have it. Muslims killing muslims, it's got f**k all to do with us.

Letting them in in the first place would stop attacks like this. To suggest otherwise is incredibly moronic.

You may want to double check where the attackers from 7/7 were from then.

Letting them in in the first place would stop attacks like this. To suggest otherwise is incredibly moronic.

You may want to double check where the attackers from 7/7 were from then.

And also the two parasites who butchered Lee Rigby.

Letting them in in the first place would stop attacks like this. To suggest otherwise is incredibly moronic.

You may want to double check where the attackers from 7/7 were from then.

Clueless. The vast majority of terrorist attacks are internal attacks. Look at the history books. A lot of these are even homegrown radicals being brainwashed by a moronic backwards 7th century ideology. And yes, those who committed the 7/7 attacks were homegrown, but were the product of a policy of mass immigration brought in by deluded politicians serving none other than themselves. Nobody named Mark Jones has committed these crimes now have they?

The higher the Islamic population the higher the incidence rate of backward and vulgar practices like FGM, rape gangs, accepted domestic violence and disgusting terrorist attacks. Again, why aren't Poland being blown to bits? They have helped NATO military efforts? Oh wait, its because they don't have an internal population, a sleeping threat within, in their country trying to orchestrate attacks all the time.

If it wasn't for the great work of security services Western Europe would be even more blown to bits than it is now.