" Tony Fernandez writes off £180 million loan "

Why would he when he gets constantly slagged. If i was him I'd say no chance.

A. He promised
B. He's brought every ounce of criticism on himself

No he didn't there were conditions attached which weren't fulfilled.

Well said Maccydee.

The trouble is we live in a something for nothing society and the individual expectations of some fans is beyond reasonable logic.

Back in 2012 there was a promise made of a £100m investment which included a debt to equity in exchange for a rebrand to red.

The fan base rebelled and the rebrand was reversed. Just why Mr Tan is now expected to honour the original agreement is baffling especially as he has blown the best part of £150m with only 1 season of Premiership football and an empty stand to show for it.

Beyond reasonable logic. Love that.

We do have some illogical fans.

It should also be noted that the protests started when we started losing. When winning the championship the protests were individual.

BU set up well before we started losing.

Why would he when he gets constantly slagged. If i was him I'd say no chance.

A. He promised
B. He's brought every ounce of criticism on himself

No he didn't there were conditions attached which weren't fulfilled.

Well said Maccydee.

The trouble is we live in a something for nothing society and the individual expectations of some fans is beyond reasonable logic.

Back in 2012 there was a promise made of a £100m investment which included a debt to equity in exchange for a rebrand to red.

The fan base rebelled and the rebrand was reversed. Just why Mr Tan is now expected to honour the original agreement is baffling especially as he has blown the best part of £150m with only 1 season of Premiership football and an empty stand to show for it.

Beyond reasonable logic. Love that.

We do have some illogical fans.

It should also be noted that the protests started when we started losing. When winning the championship the protests were individual.

BU set up well before we started losing.

It wasn't about when we were winning the Championship

Tony Fernandez you are one hell of a guy! And all this without wishing to change QPR's longstanding tradition; good on you!

Take a look at this

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... o-briatore

They have fack all to show for 180 million unlike us.

To say Fernandes is anything other than a fool is ridiculous. To say he is better than Tan even more so.

Maybe the QPR fans aren't dickheads to Fernandes.

They have no reason to be.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... o-briatore

Maybe the QPR fans aren't dickheads to Fernandes.

They have no reason to be.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... o-briatore

Very first sentence "The QPR chairman is popular amongst fans"

Take a look at this

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... o-briatore

They have fack all to show for 180 million unlike us.

To say Fernandes is anything other than a fool is ridiculous. To say he is better than Tan even more so.

Well there are 2 seasons in the premier. Also Fernandez has written off the debt.

But more important Fernandez did not try to create QPR in his own image. Hence why they have not lost over 12,000 fans in a couple of seasons.

Why would he when he gets constantly slagged. If i was him I'd say no chance.

A. He promised
B. He's brought every ounce of criticism on himself

No he didn't there were conditions attached which weren't fulfilled.

Well said Maccydee.

The trouble is we live in a something for nothing society and the individual expectations of some fans is beyond reasonable logic.

Back in 2012 there was a promise made of a £100m investment which included a debt to equity in exchange for a rebrand to red.

The fan base rebelled and the rebrand was reversed. Just why Mr Tan is now expected to honour the original agreement is baffling especially as he has blown the best part of £150m with only 1 season of Premiership football and an empty stand to show for it.

Beyond reasonable logic. Love that.

We do have some illogical fans.

It should also be noted that the protests started when we started losing. When winning the championship the protests were individual.

BU set up well before we started losing.

It wasn't about when we were winning the Championship

Well I would have imagined a similar set up would have happened if a certain thug had not gone on a campaign to destroy any opposition to the rebrand. Funny really but BU did have some members who would be considered thugs. Well I'm not condoning those guys but it certainly made the Red brigade think. A bit like having your own military force hey?

Neil take it from me who mixes in with the Cardiff faithful. The majority of us were against the rebrand. What was lacking was leadership. That was quashed at the start by the thugs. BU came along and things were different you cannot deny that.

Well I would have imagined a similar set up would have happened if a certain thug had not gone on a campaign to destroy any opposition to the rebrand. Funny really but BU did have some members who would be considered thugs. Well I'm not condoning those guys but it certainly made the Red brigade think. A bit like having your own military force hey?

Neil take it from me who mixes in with the Cardiff faithful. The majority of us were against the rebrand. What was lacking was leadership. That was quashed at the start by the thugs. BU came along and things were different you cannot deny that.

Ian just about everyone was against the blue to red but the deal which was on the table at the time was the most pragmatic way forward for the club. It is easy to sweep under the carpet now but we were in a no win situation at the time.

Indeed there is an argument that those who chose to allow the rebrand were the clever ones as it was so plainly obvious that one day we would revert to blue but cop all that investment in the meantime. Whether it is a loan or equity it doesn't really matter now as the money has been spent and Tan is stuck with us

Also BU influence was minimal, the real reason for Tan decision to revert to Blue was economic after the devastation of relegation from the Premiership. He really had no other option.

However, the thing that makes me laugh most now is all those fans who at the time claimed they would prefer to see us playimg in blue in League 2 rather than in red in the Premiership. Where are they now? We are playing in Blue in the Championship and these self proclaimed heros are nowhere to be seen!

As for this 'thug' nonsense are you really telling me Annis and all were cowed into silence because someone wouldn't allow them to speak out? Come on mate that did-not happen and the 'thug' you refer to couldn't possibly have that much influence.