Ten points from Eighteen, unbeaten in six

:sladeout: asap please. Crap football - and that is why fans are not turning up

Feeble excuse

Did you watch the promotion season under Malky Mackay??? some of the worst football I've witnessed in 20 years of following Cardiff city

This team although it doesn't quite have the same quality reminds me very much of that one, hard to beat boring football and nicking the odd goal for tight one nil wins

That season our top scorer managed 13 goals (I believe) so we were hardly lighting the world on fire goals wise then either

So blaming attendances on the football is nonsense

It's second season back in the championship attendances were only ever going to drop as we aren't seen as real promotion contenders and the price freeze which was keeping people coming to games before promotion has long gone!

We also have the rebrand to thank for turning some folk away but that again is a maybe situation not many have gone away and stayed away, what happened to the few thousand that said make us blue and the numbers will return then??

If we were winning 5-0 every week I don't think we'd draw many more, our core base is around 10,000 fans and a few thousand who attend on price and league position after that

If the club addresses season ticket prices next year then it may bring a few back

Disagree with you.

Malky's team was certainly more conservative than Dave Jones' team had been but that was absolutely necessary to avoid the constant falling at the final hurdle that had blighted Jones's time at the club.

The football played was far more entertaining than we've seen under Slade. In the promotion season you mention we scored three or more goals against Blackpool, Burnley, Charlton, Wolves, Forest and twice against Blackburn. How oftenhave we scored more than twice under Slade?

The rebrand was definitely a factor but again, during that promotion season the ground was full almost every week despite the fact that we were playing in red.

Although the season ticket prize freeze ended I'm not sure that the increase in season ticket prices was so great that thousands were put off renewing and as we have been back in blue since the middle of last season then that can't be an excuse either.

There are many many reasons why the support has dropped this season but I believe that the dreadful style of football from the end of last season and which we seem to be returning to now after a more promising start to the season is a massive reason why people are choosing not to attend.

In over 40 years of following the City I honestly feel that. taking into account the level at which we are playing and the quality in the squad, we are playing some of the worst, least attractive and downright dull football that I have ever seen.

I have come closer to saying "I can't be bothered any more" this season and last than I ever have before, even in the dungeon days and that's solely because of the awful style of football on the pitch. I have happily gone during promotions, relegations, financial problems, takeovers, Premier League, League 2 etc but now it's becoming less enjoyable by the game.

I still stand by Malkys football being as dull if not worse

You mention 8/9 games where we scored 3 in 46 games

It was a long dull season with very similar negative tactics difference then was we had a tad more quality up top and on the wings than we have now

Malky also had money to spend and a large wage bill slade has had neither this season

We might be playing shite but fester has steadied the ship under difficult circumstances and I just wish people would back him and the squad at home instead of constant bitching and moaning, he's probably not the man to get us back fighting at the top but he's done a decent job under some real tough circumstances in a few years time we will be thankful he managed to keep us in this division to continue having a go for premier league football when many more experienced managers would have struggled last season with what he had to do

I personally don't see his contract being renewed next season which is probably the correct thing to do unless the club decide they want another year or two consolidation before having another push for promotion

Either way any manager of this club gets my support regardless of the football served up

:sladeout: asap please. Crap football - and that is why fans are not turning up

Feeble excuse

Did you watch the promotion season under Malky Mackay??? some of the worst football I've witnessed in 20 years of following Cardiff city

This team although it doesn't quite have the same quality reminds me very much of that one, hard to beat boring football and nicking the odd goal for tight one nil wins

That season our top scorer managed 13 goals (I believe) so we were hardly lighting the world on fire goals wise then either

So blaming attendances on the football is nonsense

It's second season back in the championship attendances were only ever going to drop as we aren't seen as real promotion contenders and the price freeze which was keeping people coming to games before promotion has long gone!

We also have the rebrand to thank for turning some folk away but that again is a maybe situation not many have gone away and stayed away, what happened to the few thousand that said make us blue and the numbers will return then??

If we were winning 5-0 every week I don't think we'd draw many more, our core base is around 10,000 fans and a few thousand who attend on price and league position after that

If the club addresses season ticket prices next year then it may bring a few back

Disagree with you.

Malky's team was certainly more conservative than Dave Jones' team had been but that was absolutely necessary to avoid the constant falling at the final hurdle that had blighted Jones's time at the club.

The football played was far more entertaining than we've seen under Slade. In the promotion season you mention we scored three or more goals against Blackpool, Burnley, Charlton, Wolves, Forest and twice against Blackburn. How oftenhave we scored more than twice under Slade?

The rebrand was definitely a factor but again, during that promotion season the ground was full almost every week despite the fact that we were playing in red.

Although the season ticket prize freeze ended I'm not sure that the increase in season ticket prices was so great that thousands were put off renewing and as we have been back in blue since the middle of last season then that can't be an excuse either.

There are many many reasons why the support has dropped this season but I believe that the dreadful style of football from the end of last season and which we seem to be returning to now after a more promising start to the season is a massive reason why people are choosing not to attend.

In over 40 years of following the City I honestly feel that. taking into account the level at which we are playing and the quality in the squad, we are playing some of the worst, least attractive and downright dull football that I have ever seen.

I have come closer to saying "I can't be bothered any more" this season and last than I ever have before, even in the dungeon days and that's solely because of the awful style of football on the pitch. I have happily gone during promotions, relegations, financial problems, takeovers, Premier League, League 2 etc but now it's becoming less enjoyable by the game.

I still stand by Malkys football being as dull if not worse

You mention 8/9 games where we scored 3 in 46 games

It was a long dull season with very similar negative tactics difference then was we had a tad more quality up top and on the wings than we have now

Malky also had money to spend and a large wage bill slade has had neither this season

We might be playing shite but fester has steadied the ship under difficult circumstances and I just wish people would back him and the squad at home instead of constant bitching and moaning, he's probably not the man to get us back fighting at the top but he's done a decent job under some real tough circumstances in a few years time we will be thankful he managed to keep us in this division to continue having a go for premier league football when many more experienced managers would have struggled last season with what he had to do

I personally don't see his contract being renewed next season which is probably the correct thing to do unless the club decide they want another year or two consolidation before having another push for promotion

Either way any manager of this club gets my support regardless of the football served up

Spot on!

:sladeout: asap please. Crap football - and that is why fans are not turning up

Feeble excuse

Did you watch the promotion season under Malky Mackay??? some of the worst football I've witnessed in 20 years of following Cardiff city

This team although it doesn't quite have the same quality reminds me very much of that one, hard to beat boring football and nicking the odd goal for tight one nil wins

That season our top scorer managed 13 goals (I believe) so we were hardly lighting the world on fire goals wise then either

So blaming attendances on the football is nonsense

It's second season back in the championship attendances were only ever going to drop as we aren't seen as real promotion contenders and the price freeze which was keeping people coming to games before promotion has long gone!

We also have the rebrand to thank for turning some folk away but that again is a maybe situation not many have gone away and stayed away, what happened to the few thousand that said make us blue and the numbers will return then??

If we were winning 5-0 every week I don't think we'd draw many more, our core base is around 10,000 fans and a few thousand who attend on price and league position after that

If the club addresses season ticket prices next year then it may bring a few back

Disagree with you.

Malky's team was certainly more conservative than Dave Jones' team had been but that was absolutely necessary to avoid the constant falling at the final hurdle that had blighted Jones's time at the club.

The football played was far more entertaining than we've seen under Slade. In the promotion season you mention we scored three or more goals against Blackpool, Burnley, Charlton, Wolves, Forest and twice against Blackburn. How oftenhave we scored more than twice under Slade?

The rebrand was definitely a factor but again, during that promotion season the ground was full almost every week despite the fact that we were playing in red.

Although the season ticket prize freeze ended I'm not sure that the increase in season ticket prices was so great that thousands were put off renewing and as we have been back in blue since the middle of last season then that can't be an excuse either.

There are many many reasons why the support has dropped this season but I believe that the dreadful style of football from the end of last season and which we seem to be returning to now after a more promising start to the season is a massive reason why people are choosing not to attend.

In over 40 years of following the City I honestly feel that. taking into account the level at which we are playing and the quality in the squad, we are playing some of the worst, least attractive and downright dull football that I have ever seen.

I have come closer to saying "I can't be bothered any more" this season and last than I ever have before, even in the dungeon days and that's solely because of the awful style of football on the pitch. I have happily gone during promotions, relegations, financial problems, takeovers, Premier League, League 2 etc but now it's becoming less enjoyable by the game.

I still stand by Malkys football being as dull if not worse

You mention 8/9 games where we scored 3 in 46 games

It was a long dull season with very similar negative tactics difference then was we had a tad more quality up top and on the wings than we have now

Malky also had money to spend and a large wage bill slade has had neither this season

We might be playing shite but fester has steadied the ship under difficult circumstances and I just wish people would back him and the squad at home instead of constant bitching and moaning, he's probably not the man to get us back fighting at the top but he's done a decent job under some real tough circumstances in a few years time we will be thankful he managed to keep us in this division to continue having a go for premier league football when many more experienced managers would have struggled last season with what he had to do

I personally don't see his contract being renewed next season which is probably the correct thing to do unless the club decide they want another year or two consolidation before having another push for promotion

Either way any manager of this club gets my support regardless of the football served up[/quote]

Yes I mentioned 8 or 9 games in 46 in which we scored 3 or 4.

How many times have we scored 3 under Slade? Twice? How many times have we scored 4 under Slade? Never.

I cannot understand how you feel that the season we got promoted was a long dull season with negative tactics but each to their own I suppose. To me it was one of the most enjoyable seasons I've ever had watching Cardiff and ultimately that was because of the success we had on the pitch. I saw every game that season and I cannot remember ever being as bored as I have been watching Slade's teams.

i also cannot remember any games where we did not have even one shot on target.

The team (not necessarily the manager) will always get my support also but your original post suggested that dropping the season ticket prices would help bring back fans who no longer attend.

If we were winning 5-0 every week then fans would be turning up in their droves just like they did in that promotion season and no matter what colour shirt we wore. Those of us who support the club through thick and thin, good performances and shite, will still turn up every week but when you see the crap being served up as "entertainment" on the pitch at the moment, it's much easier to see why so many people can no longer be bothered.

Good post davids