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Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:21 pm

darran1927 wrote:If the club are happy to stay a mid table championship side with no ambition then keep him
If they really are ambitious as they keep saying they want premiership football then slade needs to go

Personally I think Slade should go he has trimmed the wages down but anyone can sell players the hard bit is getting decent replacements and this he has failed in, most of Slades signings don't play or are not good enough at this level, you only have to look at what Dave Jones did on a limited budget we were always challenging and playing good attacking football
Slade needs to go imo
:thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:21 pm

darran1927 wrote:If the club are happy to stay a mid table championship side with no ambition then keep him
If they really are ambitious as they keep saying they want premiership football then slade needs to go

Personally I think Slade should go he has trimmed the wages down but anyone can sell players the hard bit is getting decent replacements and this he has failed in, most of Slades signings don't play or are not good enough at this level, you only have to look at what Dave Jones did on a limited budget we were always challenging and playing good attacking football
Slade needs to go imo
:thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:34 pm

If they sack Slade for whatever reason, who's to say that they will necessarily back a new manager with enough funds to push for promotion. I don't think the team is good enough at the moment but feel,we are only 2 or 3 quality players away from pushing for the top 6. The trouble is,a lot of teams are looking for the same quality without spending too much

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:56 pm

Maybe tan has a plan people like him usually do? Can't believe hes just cutting costs at expense of promotion and the Mega riches on offer next season. Wouldn't be surprised if something happens at endof this or beginning next season! :thumbup:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:58 pm

Tan will never trust another manager with substantial funds after Malky spunked away millions, This transfer committee they have in place is an absolute joke. Manager wants player.. has to persuade 3 other people that it's what they need including an owner who doesn't understand the game and has a total disregard for what the manager sees day in day out. It seems Tan only listens to people from outside the football club about what he needs to do and it's going to hold us back.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:02 pm

See in fairness to spade he managed to get Sammy down and Kennedy looked a player last yr but hasn't featured this yr which I'm surprised about but he's hardly had the funds of past managers who could shop at a higher level than slade has.I think if we are in the top six come January it'll be a matter of back him and see what he can do in terms of bringing in talent

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:08 pm

Neokutai wrote:Tan will never trust another manager with substantial funds after Malky spunked away millions, This transfer committee they have in place is an absolute joke. Manager wants player.. has to persuade 3 other people that it's what they need including an owner who doesn't understand the game and has a total disregard for what the manager sees day in day out. It seems Tan only listens to people from outside the football club about what he needs to do and it's going to hold us back.



You forget several premier clubs operates this system man c, lpool included :o

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:20 pm

wez1927 wrote:Annis you havnt answered a question posted earlier ,do you want the club to go into more debt or sell players so slade can get some new players which are needed

We'z give up asking annis for an answer regarding our spending/ debt as you will never get one from him ,I've been trying for ages
This is just another rubbish thread knocking the club and slade just to get hits as its so quiet on here :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird: think a lot of our fans must be on holiday no wonder the gates are so low at the moment

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:33 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Neokutai wrote:Tan will never trust another manager with substantial funds after Malky spunked away millions, This transfer committee they have in place is an absolute joke. Manager wants player.. has to persuade 3 other people that it's what they need including an owner who doesn't understand the game and has a total disregard for what the manager sees day in day out. It seems Tan only listens to people from outside the football club about what he needs to do and it's going to hold us back.



You forget several premier clubs operates this system man c, lpool included :o


I honestly believe this is why Liverpool are stuggling.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:46 pm

if we are in a similar position come January then surely he has to be given the money to go and get two top quality players into the side.

of course that would meaning HAVING to finish in the top 6 imo, where as right now the top 6 is the aim but i think a place in the top 10 wont see him lose his job.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:25 pm

paulh_85 wrote:if we are in a similar position come January then surely he has to be given the money to go and get two top quality players into the side.

of course that would meaning HAVING to finish in the top 6 imo, where as right now the top 6 is the aim but i think a place in the top 10 wont see him lose his job.

I don't think he'll lose his job providing we finish anywhere outside the bottom four.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:27 pm

darran1927 wrote:
lathamgaffney wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
lathamgaffney wrote:After the performance on Monday night, if we do somehow get promoted this season, then we won't stand a chance in the Premier League. Slade has done a 'good' job. Not spectacular. It could be a lot worse, though.

I will support him. But don't think he is the man to take us to the next level.

I think he's good enough to take us up but once up we should get rid of him like we should of done last time with malky and get a proven premiership manger in to take us to the next level


Problem is though, I can't remember the last time a manager was sacked after getting their team promoted!

Watford sacked their manager this season didnt they


f**k knows lol. If so it sure has worked for them! Done brilliantly so far!

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:47 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Spot on Steve :thumbright:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:56 pm

lathamgaffney wrote:
darran1927 wrote:
lathamgaffney wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
lathamgaffney wrote:After the performance on Monday night, if we do somehow get promoted this season, then we won't stand a chance in the Premier League. Slade has done a 'good' job. Not spectacular. It could be a lot worse, though.

I will support him. But don't think he is the man to take us to the next level.

I think he's good enough to take us up but once up we should get rid of him like we should of done last time with malky and get a proven premiership manger in to take us to the next level


Problem is though, I can't remember the last time a manager was sacked after getting their team promoted!

Watford sacked their manager this season didnt they


f**k knows lol. If so it sure has worked for them! Done brilliantly so far!



Didn't think they have this season but def had 4 last season! :o :laughing6:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:56 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:01 pm

There is no one better waiting in the wings to take over should the club sack Slade and there is absolutely no point sacking a competent - albeit uninspiring - manager for someone who is not able to do a better job.

What Cardiff fans have to accept, is that there is no quick fix to our predicament. At present the issues being raised are numerous; Anti Vincent Tan feelings, bitterness about the re-brand, bad feeling towards stewards, anger at the running of the club, annoyance at the poor match turn out, annoyance at incredibly poor atmosphere, annoyance at Slade, annoyance at Slade's match tactics, annoyance of individual players, annoyance at the teams performance, worry about the clubs rising debt - the list is almost endless.

All the issues above are interlinked and cannot be laid at Slade's door alone.

Like it or not, the post re-brand healing process is still on going and it is going to take a lot of effort from Vincent Tan, the board members, Slade, the players AND the fans to get this football club moving in the right direction.

Only once we have a unified club, we can start pushing towards success. Top quality players AND managers want to go to top quality clubs. We have to get there first and as a club, we can all start by accepting the fact that Slade is our manager, we are in this predicament for the long hall and putting our faith in him going forward will be more constructive than demanding his sacking.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:09 pm

You will not find a better manager on the wage Slade is on and we are only 4 points off the top 2 so talking about this is madness.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:11 pm

TRose69 wrote:There is no one better waiting in the wings to take over should the club sack Slade and there is absolutely no point sacking a competent - albeit uninspiring - manager for someone who is not able to do a better job.

What Cardiff fans have to accept, is that there is no quick fix to our predicament. At present the issues being raised are numerous; Anti Vincent Tan feelings, bitterness about the re-brand, bad feeling towards stewards, anger at the running of the club, annoyance at the poor match turn out, annoyance at incredibly poor atmosphere, annoyance at Slade, annoyance at Slade's match tactics, annoyance of individual players, annoyance at the teams performance, worry about the clubs rising debt - the list is almost endless.

All the issues above are interlinked and cannot be laid at Slade's door alone.

Like it or not, the post re-brand healing process is still on going and it is going to take a lot of effort from Vincent Tan, the board members, Slade, the players AND the fans to get this football club moving in the right direction.

Only once we have a unified club, we can start pushing towards success. Top quality players AND managers want to go to top quality clubs. We have to get there first and as a club, we can all start by accepting the fact that Slade is our manager, we are in this predicament for the long hall and putting our faith in him going forward will be more constructive than demanding his sacking.

I wonder how many are going to hang around for the long hall, its not proving to be a lot of fun l

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:11 pm

maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.
difference here though is Eddie howe is a young manager with fresh ideas slade has had 20 years of experience and hasn't won promotion he won't change tactics fair enough if the tactics worked but they don't we are not creative and that is down to Slades poor tactics, slade will never take us forward

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:12 pm

darran1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.
difference here though is Eddie howe is a young manager with fresh ideas slade has had 20 years of experience and hasn't won promotion he won't change tactics fair enough if the tactics worked but they don't we are not creative and that is down to Slades poor tactics, slade will never take us forward

Eddie Howe's Bournemouth were a joy to watch last season playing a very sophisticated style of football

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:12 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:You will not find a better manager on the wage Slade is on and we are only 4 points off the top 2 so talking about this is madness.

What is so good about slade? Tell me what you like about him as it certainly can't be the football it's dire to watch

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:14 pm

oxfordblue wrote:
darran1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.
difference here though is Eddie howe is a young manager with fresh ideas slade has had 20 years of experience and hasn't won promotion he won't change tactics fair enough if the tactics worked but they don't we are not creative and that is down to Slades poor tactics, slade will never take us forward

Eddie Howe's Bournemouth were a joy to watch last season playing a very sophisticated style of football

Exactly a young up and coming manager with a fresh approach on how to play, slade is a dinosaur who is stuck in the 90s that won't change

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:14 pm

darran1927 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:You will not find a better manager on the wage Slade is on and we are only 4 points off the top 2 so talking about this is madness.

What is so good about slade? Tell me what you like about him as it certainly can't be the football it's dire to watch


Its the resources he is working on he is doing a good job and he has reputation of getting a team full of freebies punching above their weight in his previous jobs and above all he is a gent. :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:15 pm

Would you trust slade with your money?? ... I wouldnt :thumbup:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:23 pm

oxfordblue wrote:
TRose69 wrote:There is no one better waiting in the wings to take over should the club sack Slade and there is absolutely no point sacking a competent - albeit uninspiring - manager for someone who is not able to do a better job.

What Cardiff fans have to accept, is that there is no quick fix to our predicament. At present the issues being raised are numerous; Anti Vincent Tan feelings, bitterness about the re-brand, bad feeling towards stewards, anger at the running of the club, annoyance at the poor match turn out, annoyance at incredibly poor atmosphere, annoyance at Slade, annoyance at Slade's match tactics, annoyance of individual players, annoyance at the teams performance, worry about the clubs rising debt - the list is almost endless.

All the issues above are interlinked and cannot be laid at Slade's door alone.

Like it or not, the post re-brand healing process is still on going and it is going to take a lot of effort from Vincent Tan, the board members, Slade, the players AND the fans to get this football club moving in the right direction.

Only once we have a unified club, we can start pushing towards success. Top quality players AND managers want to go to top quality clubs. We have to get there first and as a club, we can all start by accepting the fact that Slade is our manager, we are in this predicament for the long hall and putting our faith in him going forward will be more constructive than demanding his sacking.

I wonder how many are going to hang around for the long hall, its not proving to be a lot of fun l


It will be difficult and like any uphill struggle - its not for everyone.

But I hope we have the strength of character to pull through this hard time.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:37 pm

erinsown wrote:Would you trust slade with your money?? ... I wouldnt :thumbup:

There is no money to spend clearly so it makes no difference as its all be cost cutting and more to follow.
Tans on his way out over the next two years in my opinion while getting what he can along the way.

I couldn't care less if we only spent 50pence on a player as i just want the debt gone and tan gone. Its not all about glory for some when your club has no f*cking soul or passion in the stands what so ever due to whats gone on in the past.

I will be there like many others if we had 11 freebies from div 2 come in as i've seen it all before over the years. That's what being a fan is all about for me.

People who moan saying we are not spending money on players then the next saying we need to lower the debt makes zero sence at all, some want tan to spend and the next they want tan out in a thread :lol:

The reason we got slade to start with is to do the cost cutting and listen to what tan wants plus hes the cheaper option. I mean who else got an interview from city for the job when malky got the boot.........NOBODY EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS HIGHER PROFILE MANAGERS ON PAPER OUT THERE :thumbup:

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:42 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
erinsown wrote:Would you trust slade with your money?? ... I wouldnt :thumbup:

There is no money to spend clearly so it makes no difference as its all be cost cutting and more to follow.
Tans on his way out over the next two years in my opinion while getting what he can along the way.

I couldn't care less if we only spent 50pence on a player as i just want the debt gone and tan gone. Its not all about glory for some when your club has no f*cking soul or passion in the stands what so ever due to whats gone on in the past.

I will be there like many others if we had 11 freebies from div 2 come in as i've seen it all before over the years. That's what being a fan is all about for me.

People who moan saying we are not spending money on players then the next saying we need to lower the debt makes zero sence at all, some want tan to spend and the next they want tan out in a thread :lol:

The reason we got slade to start with is to do the cost cutting and listen to what tan wants plus hes the cheaper option. I mean who else got an interview from city for the job when malky got the boot.........NOBODY EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS HIGHER PROFILE MANAGERS ON PAPER OUT THERE :thumbup:

There is no money for tan to take whilst the wage bill is anything over 20 million there is no money ,he's bound by company law ,you just can take money out it doesn't work Like that

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:42 pm

maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.

I agree with you. My point would be that Eddie Howe had proven himself capable of getting a team promoted before he managed in the Championship. He was'nt brought straight into a Championship side without any history of being capable of achieving promotion in the way that Slade was brought to Cardiff. If Howe had not managed to win anything, and Bournemouth had not made any progress, how many Championship clubs would have taken a punt on him if they were serious about getting into the Premier League. I am not knocking Slade. He was brought here to do a particular job which to be fair is getting done, and I am sure he always gives 100%. I think the Slade bashers are blaming the wrong man. They need to look higher than Slade and question the true ambitions of those that run the club.

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:43 pm

darran1927 wrote:
oxfordblue wrote:
darran1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.
difference here though is Eddie howe is a young manager with fresh ideas slade has had 20 years of experience and hasn't won promotion he won't change tactics fair enough if the tactics worked but they don't we are not creative and that is down to Slades poor tactics, slade will never take us forward

Eddie Howe's Bournemouth were a joy to watch last season playing a very sophisticated style of football

Exactly a young up and coming manager with a fresh approach on how to play, slade is a dinosaur who is stuck in the 90s that won't change

Remember Eddie Howe bombed at Burnley

Re: " YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:43 pm

oxfordblue wrote:
darran1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.


Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.
difference here though is Eddie howe is a young manager with fresh ideas slade has had 20 years of experience and hasn't won promotion he won't change tactics fair enough if the tactics worked but they don't we are not creative and that is down to Slades poor tactics, slade will never take us forward

Eddie Howe's Bournemouth were a joy to watch last season playing a very sophisticated style of football


Slade's leyton Orient were a joy to watch apparently.

Besides the point was Slade hasn't managed at a level higher than the bottom leagues. Eddie Howe also didn't. Until Glenn Hoddle took Swindon up neither had he. He's another renowned for thinking ahead of his time.